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William Farrar's avatar

If the Democrats had total control of the legislative and executive as they did during Obama's administration, I doubt that we could get Medicare for All, because the problem is inside the house. we have to oust the old guard, the consultants, analysts and reps that slop at the donor's trough

As regrds the Republicans promising Universal Health Care.

A Republican promise has the same worth as the Confederate dollar. alas the nation is full of fools that believe...anything.

G.P. Baltimore's avatar

A trmp promise is like the scorpion promise not to bite the fox if he carried the scorpion across a rushing stream.

A scorpion can’t deny its nature even if it drowns along with the fox half way across the rushing waters. It is what it is—a creature with a poison bite and a lying mouth—and it will follow its nature.

The administration promising to do anything for the people besides pillage is a lie.

William Farrar's avatar

Agreed, but it was the scorpion and the frog.

Tomonthebeach's avatar

Of course, the biggest barrier to Medicare4All is "Citizens United." As Thom pointed out, the healthcare industry (not necessarily healthcare providers) owns the GOP, and they have a rather tight grip on the DNC too. Until Citizens United is exterminated, free medical care seems unreachable.

I think the Democrats would be well-advised to focus on restoring competent governing in contrast to MAGA nincompoop ruling. Give Trump 2 more years, and the US will look like Greece - irrelevant to the world economy and global peace. We will no longer be a model of morality either. We have to get our billionaire oligarch problem under control. Just list every Trump campaign promise, and contrast it with current reality. Even MAGAs are capable of simple subtraction.

Tom Halstead's avatar

Cautious, incrementalist, corporate “Democrats” must be defeated along with the fascists if we are to have MFA. They are, after all, experts on what can’t be done, solemnly pronounce it’s too soon, and prove it can’t at every opportunity. We can’t seem to get them to STFU, but we can discredit and ignore them, as demonstrated by Mamdani, El-Sayed, Kiros, and more. DSA is rising because the DNC is a failure. Long live the DSA.

Sir Okie Doke's avatar

DT could be allowed to do it because Russia Russia Russia has universal healthcare [UH], so chances are the Russian Spy/Operative who loves only Putie Pie [and gold] would be given the green light to gift us UH by his handler/puppetmaster: Cow Pie.

I mean Pootie Pie.

I mean Putie Pie.

#VOTE to Take Back Food Stamp [SNAP] funds from The Nazi Elon and The Whore of War: Eric

#DRAFT any Trump, Witkoff, or Kushner worth more than $ 10,000,000 to the Bab al-Mandab

Barry J Kaufman DO's avatar

Nobody wants promises anymore. The Democrats have demonstrated more than once that they are not interested in passing a single payer healthcare program, and certainly The Affordable Care Act is proof positive as that was effectively the opposite of single payer which privatized the healthcare system and had us funneling our tax dollars through the government to subsidize the profits of the health insurance conglomerates. We need an entirely new Congress or political party because with the one we have, as Hillary Clinton, who took millions from the health care conglomerates, said in 2016, Medicare for All will "never, ever happen." https://barryjkaufmando.substack.com/p/the-american-health-care-system-is

Vickie's avatar

From your lips to god’s ear❤️

Jeffrey Hobbs's avatar

It's hard to accept that Libya and Mongolia can do more for their people, regarding healthcare, than the US, with all its superior resources, can do for us. Perhaps if we could just divorce ourselves from our one-way relationship with corporate oligarchy...Sherwood B. Nice.

Allan Marain's avatar

As usual, I agree with you, Thom. But why are you telling our depraved leader how he can win?

David Nichols's avatar

James Costich, you don't know what you are talking about. I have been on Medicare for 15 years. Yes, I have a supplemental insurance policy because Medicare doesn't pay enough for some procedures, but I have had several very expensive surgical procedures (totaling greater than $100,000) that cost me nothing. My only real cost is prescriptions, plus the cost of my supplemental policy. But Medicare for all could be set up so that a supplemental policy wouldn't be necessary.

James Costich's avatar

Medicare for all isn’t a good idea. It isn’t something to fight for because Medicare is just plain bad for patients. Everyone on Medicare must also purchase a “supplemental insurance” at a rate of at least $200 per month and Medicare only kicks in after that benefit is exhausted. To advocate for Medicare for all is to know nothing about what it is like to have to rely on it. You can’t. USA needs something that works! Not more of the ineffectiveness we already have.

Tomonthebeach's avatar

Thom is not talking about today's Medicare, which surely is complicated and costly. I think he is referring to MY health care insurance - DOD Tricare For Life - which pays for everything, and I do not get turned down for anything - surgeries included.