How a single predator exposed a centuries-old system built to shield wealthy white men from accountability and forced the country to confront a truth its institutions have long concealed...
Trump or whoever manages his brain, Came up with a new excuse to keep the Epstein files out of the public. Classify them..
Trump ordered the release of the files, for the obvious reason, to "prove" that he has nothing to hide, then Tulsi Gabbard/Kash Patel steps in and says, no can do they contain National Security Information.
However Trump said back in 2017, that the president can declassify anything just with his mind.
So lets call on Trump to declassify the files.
This is all part of the plan to retain control of the congress. With the election coming up there are at least 100 Republican seats that are vulnerable, and having them vote yea on H.R. 4405, the Epstein Files, would go a long way to removing that vulnerability, now all Republicans can vote yea as the files are classified for "national security reasons".
It is time for Ro Khanna to take advantage of the speech and debate clause, and stand up and read aloud in the chamber the names of the perps already known. Massie said he had a list of 20 names, lets's start by reading them aloud.
The vote will expose Trump. Republicans will state whether they support preverts.
Why doesn’t Trump immediately order Bondi to make the documents public?
Prosecutors like Maureen Comey have seen the files and can testify to what they saw.
Thom's Senator, Ron Wyden has repeatedly sought to have the full Jeffrey Epstein financial files released by the U.S. Treasury Department, but has been unable to issue a subpoena for the records through the Senate Finance Committee due to a lack of bipartisan support. He has instead introduced a bill to compel their release.
Epstein is dead. Attorney client privilege died with him. The following had files and their Epstein files should be subpoenaed.
Roy Black: A prominent Miami defense attorney who was part of the legal team that negotiated the controversial 2008 non-prosecution agreement (NPA) in Florida, which allowed Epstein to avoid federal charges by pleading guilty to lesser state offenses. Black died in July 2025.
Alan Dershowitz: A Harvard Law School professor and well-known defense attorney who joined Epstein's legal team around 2005 and played a significant role in negotiating the NPA. Dershowitz has consistently denied accusations made by one of Epstein's victims that she was forced to have sex with him.
Kenneth Starr: A former independent counsel, Starr was a partner and later counsel at Kirkland & Ellis and was involved in Epstein's legal representation during the time of the 2008 plea deal.
Jay Lefkowitz: A longtime partner at Kirkland & Ellis, Lefkowitz was one of Epstein's defense attorneys in the 2007 case and met with then-U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta to discuss the plea deal.
Darren Indyke and Richard Kahn: These individuals served as Epstein's longtime personal attorney and accountant, respectively, and were named as executors of his will. They have been sued by victims who claim they helped build the financial infrastructure that enabled Epstein's abuses.
Martin Weinberg and Marc Allan Fernich: These attorneys represented Epstein in the 2019 federal sex trafficking case in New York.
We also now know that foreign governments are implicated. Bondio doesn't control the CIA records, the Treasury, the State Department.
Come on Daniel, you are way above Manichean thinking. I would think that you would be thinking strategically, don't you play chess?
You accuse me of being Trump's agent, because I think strategically, what the other side would be doing and why, instead of sitting here reacting and kvetching.
Grab a hold of some long term political strategy.
Trump said release the files.
His sycophantic cabinet says: Can't they are classified, national security matter at stake.
This gives the Republicans in congress the OK to vote to release the files, because the vote will be performative,.
Thus depriving the Democrats of ammunition in the election.
Think strategically Daniel. You have it in you.
The files are not going to be released, we know that. All the vote on HR 4405 will do is tell the public who is and who is not covering up for Trump. Now with the files classified, all can claim that they for opening up the files.
Trump is playing br'er rabbit, he always has.
Instead of using that lawyer brain of yours, you resort to low level black and white thinking. You are too attached to your own scenario that you can't get out of your own way.
William,do you and Daniel ever compliment each other? You and he should find a way to meet and have a 1 day verbal slugfest.
If the Epstein files are never fully released,most of us know that Trump is guilty of being a rapist with (E.Carroll) and almost certainly abused or raped 15 yr girls during the Epstein yrs. He will now and for the future be know as pedophile. He escaped because he used all the legalese the technofascists have provided him. Do you in you wildest dreams believe that Musk,Zuckeberg,Jensen,Cook,Andressen,Peter Thiel do not support Trump 100% in spite of what he as done. This is what a " Nazi" republic looks like.
I was Daniel's bestie, when Boris was attacking Israel and defending HAMAs, but attacking Israel and defending Putin. He is still a paid subscriber, real name not Boris.
I compliment Daniel when ever he says something astute or correct.
He is peeved because i d on't subscribe to his and Jerry Weiss scenario that we can save ourselves via the institutions that Trump has destroyed.
That all we have to do is expose the Republicans protecting perverts and we will win the next elections.
Why would you ask me this?"
Do you in you wildest dreams believe that Musk,Zuckeberg,Jensen,Cook,Andressen,Peter Thiel do not support Trump 100% in spite of what he as done. This is what a " Nazi" republic looks like."
Evidently you have not read my voluminous posts about the subject, that these tech tyrants, as well as the oil cartel,financiers, billionaires are the driving force behind Trump. The goal is an Orwellian world, where instead of Oceania we have the Technate of America. see this map. It was drawn in the 1930's, and look at South America, the three countries are Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, and what three countries are being attacked and under threat by Trump. That map also cincludes Greenland and Canada, sound familiar.
Hypothetical new world Orwellian order. Technate of America, Eurasia under Russia, east Asia under China, Mid East, North Africa, west Asia under a Caliphate/sultanate of Emir, The south below the Tropic of Capricorn, battle ground for exploitation of resources.
William,thanks for your response. I agree,wonder when Americans will wake up. Just read an article in the 11/3 New Yorker about AI. A wakeup call is due soon otherwise in the next 2-3 yrs we will be totally screwed by the TechnoFascists.
Technofascists. That's the word I've been looking for.. I've been reading a lot about empathy, or rather the lack of it even people commenting..
Psychopaths lack empathy. Psychopaths are not necessarily serial killers either. If you have time google psychopathic professions, you will be surprised. There are degrees of psychopathy, just like autism and sexuality there is a spectrum.
To achieve wealth and power you need to be on the spectrum, too far right on the spectrum and you are a serial killer. just to the left and you are a Elon Musk, in my opinion he occupies the same niche as a Hitler, to the left of Trump
Musk not only lacks empathy, but has disdain for it., considers it a civilizational weakness, but it has been a key element of species survival.
Were it nor for empathy in our species, we would not have survived.
But empathy is a two edged sword, too much of it and you are immobilized, your heart bleeds without pause, recognition or common sense for all pain.
There psychopaths who make their living and attain social status on utilizing empathy.
I am inundated with heart tugging ads on TV, only $19 a month $.63 a day and I can feed a child, an animal, make a child smile, give a kid a place to sleep, and on it goes. If I contributed to every non profit that wants my money, I would have no money to take care of myself.
I turn away with guilt, emotional overload. It is the same with the world's suffering, be it the Sudan, Gaza, Nigeria, Nambia, Myanmar, the America's.
I take the edge off, give myself a fix, by supporting local charities, where I can see the money is actually going.
I am pretty well off, no debts, no mortgage, steady retirement income, I own my own property and even have a renter of a garage apartment,but I sometimes muse, how much richer I would be, had I not made good choices, been lucky and colored within the lines. in other words if I had been on the psychopath spectrum., but I don't need to be richer I have every thing I couild want or need, then again I don't need or want much.
This victim is apparently the same person that Michael Cohen was sent by Trump to find. Tara Palmeri's reporting focuses on a "Jane Doe" lawsuit from 2016 which alleged that Trump raped a 13-year-old girl at Epstein's Manhattan townhouse in the 1990s. The lawsuit was dropped days before the election.
Cohen's Admission: In interviews with Palmeri, Michael Cohen admitted that he dispatched a private investigator to track down the anonymous plaintiff in that case. He explained his attempts to locate the woman and what his investigator found.
Silence from Media: Palmeri has highlighted her frustration that this admission has largely been ignored by mainstream media outlets, a point she discussed on The Young Turks. Podcast Episodes: The interviews and discussions are featured on "The Tara Palmeri Show."
The outcome I predicted the House and Senate passed the HR 4405, and the 100 Republicans did not expose themselves,so can't be attacked in the mid terms.
427 votes for and 1 against. I guess I can go fuck myself , huh Daniel, W F can't play chess, huh? This is what I've been predicting all along.
We have been punked yet again, we never learn, First Mueller, then the classified documents, now this
Trump says he will sign it, but the whole charade is unnecessary as he could direct Bondi to release the files, but Bondi, the sycophant, won't because there are on going investigations, and if it were not for the investigations , the Epstein files were declared a national security issue.
The whole exercise of having 100 Republicans. exposed has turned out to be a ruse.
No Daniel, I said no such thing. I said we were being punked, and that the bit about 100 Republicans,, not signing H R 4405, was a ruse to have them keep their seats. If anyone is full of shit it is you and Jerry Weiss, hanging on the forlorn hope or belief that forcing a vote on HR 4405 would force the 100 to come out as protecting pedophiles.
I did say that if it passed the house, and it would, that it could be stopped in the Senate, but apparently the game plan all along was for Pam Bondi to declare that the Epstein file was part of a n ongoing investigation and could not be released, and if that doesn't work, it has already been declared to contain info vital to national security, and that is another reason it won't see the light of day. Subpoena or or not. If anything the files will be delivered, probably scrubbed, to a closed (classified) committee and will never see the light of day.
Yes there are more sources, like the Epstein estate and his brother Mark, and all of those revelations including giving Bubba a blow job,haven't moved the fucking needle.
Back to you calling me an agent of Trump and a big fuck you, you are changing the subject, you and Jerry Weiss were claiming that if we could get 100 Republicans o defect, then we could take back the House, well it looks like the Republicans are playing chess while Jerry is playing checkers.
I will say it again and again, the institutions no longer hold, they have evaporated if ever they were on the side of the common man and woman.
Placing faith and all effort on the non existent institutions to save us is a fools errand.
The techfascists, the billionaires, the oil cartel, the financiers control the institutions, all we can do is resist with a general strike, a national "intifada", but by that time it will be too late
They will have their technate of America , which if you check the map
includes Greenland, Canada, and (gasp) Ecuador, Colombia and Venezuela, the very same countries that Trump is waging war against.
Thanks William. I'd hate to play you in chess as I suspect you would be 2 moves ahead of me. Yes Trump, Bondi, Patel, saying the files are classified and can't be released is a ploy they may well try. My guess is that the elected and appointed will not get the files released. The truth will have to come from retired FBI, CIA agents, witnesses and victims.
Trouble is Daniel, you have pinned your reputation on Jerry Weiss and the release of the Epstein files..
FYI, Trump has given his Republicans permission to vote for H.R. 4405 (release of the Epstein files), thus taking away this huge PR victory.
Ass regards this huge PR Victory, the Republicans who would have yea on HR 4405, were the Republicans who occupied vulnerable seats, by voting Yea they took that away from the Democrats as a campaign issue. The ones who vote Nay are in safe seats. However the vote even if it passed would go nowhere it was a Kabuki theater, as it wouldn't pass the senate, and per chance it did, Trump would veto it, so much ado over nothing.
and it is all immaterial anyway.
Trump has said that it would be OK to vote to release it.l Another performative ploy, as he could order Pam to release the files at any moment.
But he he ordered Pam Bondi to investigate Clinton et al, and thus prevented the files from being publicized as they are now part of an investigation and if that doesn't work, Tulsi and Kash, has declared them a national security threat, in other words they are classified, so they can't be delivered publicly, however Trump can declassify them anyway.
That is playing chess, evidently you can 't even play checkers, and you were a lawyer and an administrative judge?
Most people, journalists too, assume that the end of the Epstein Saga is nigh, now that Trump TACO'd on release. Consider this: what if Trump has already got guarantees that the Senate will tie the files in procedural knots that could extend to SCOTUS in several years?
That is what I am saying, but the Senate doesn't have to give him guarantees, Their own political survival is at stake. They are all in with Trump, like it or not., and for H.R. 4405 to be passed, it will need 60 votes
Trump has no worries, the files are
1. Considered evidence in an investigation by the FBI
2. Classified as a National Security matter.
As I said, the bill would never have gotten to Trump's desk, mich less signed, as it is unnecessary, as President he could have released the files, and can declassify them as well.
We have been suckered. There are 100 vulnerable congressmen in the 2026 election, Giving them an opportunity to vote yea on HR 4405, saves them from an attack that they are part of the pedophile coverup.
They vote yea knowing that the bill will go nowhere. Pure Kabuki theater
Maybe it's just a phase, "We let", but I would point out that perhaps it should read "They took". Also, they are here, as they always have been, to keep taking. The defect is in their brain, and it's fueled by ignorance, racism, misogyny, and religion.
All I know is that emotional maturity is very hard to reach. It doesn't come from intelligence. It requires a word that is used a lot these days. That would be EMPATHY. The more we study it, the more I am convinced it's both nature and nurture. We can work with that.
Time to understand that not everyone is a born warrior. Some just ARE. Fighting these bastards is hard, but it is "Good Trouble". My heart is with the Epstein Survivors and all the people being trafficked today. Corner the cowards and psychopaths like TRump. STAY LOUD! See you in the streets.
Good comment Alis. I agree, The problem with empathy is that one goes into sensory overload, The TV is flooded with save this or that only $.63 a daym then we are bombarded with video's of women and children suffering in Sudan, Ukraine, Gaza, it is too much. Too much exposure to anything builds up an immunity, if for no other reason than survival of the self.
But you are right, white people can't emphasize with non whites, and vice versa, and on it goes, regardless of how one identifies.
The Germans didn't see the humanity in the Jews whose synagogues they were burning or stores they were looting.
The rioters in LA. didn't see the humanity of the Korean shop owners they were looting.
ICE doesn't see the humanity in the people they are beating up and hauling off.
An image seared into my mind is back to the Bangladesh struggle for independence.
The image is of a crowd of Muslim's, stomping to death in a soccer stadium, a five year old Hindu boy., fast forward a half century, Guajarat, India over 2,000 Muslims put to death, most burned alive, by crowds of nationalistic Hindu.
The inhumanity of man to man is endless, and as old as man himself.
Over exposure does indeed deaden the senses if it is devoid of any dispassionate discussion, fact checking and analysis. Otherwise the images are no more than pornography, which is exactly what they are meant to be.
Thanks for the clarification.. In that regard the purveyors of media are war pornographers.
Porno sells, whether sex or violence.
Some Catholic saint, supposedly allowed himself to be dragged to the Coliseum by a friend. He sat in the stands covering his eyes with his hands, until he heard the crowd roar,then transfixed he lift his hands and could not break his gaze.
Thus the human condition. are we all not guilty. We can't j help but look and stare, even hungry for more.
You can see aspects of this mentality in the recent Department of HS (when possible I avoid using the repulsive "H" word) postings of early Norman Rockwell paintings. They have added captions about protecting the "American Way of Life". Virtually every person in them is white, although in "Painting the Statue of Liberty" (paired by them with "protect your homeland, defend your culture") an African-American worker slipped in. Given how much Rockwell later painted about racial tolerance he would be deeply disgusted, as is his family today. (These pictures were used without their permission, not that anyone in the government seems to care.)
We know about Jefferson and Sally Hemmings. Washington had his wife's slaves toes amputated so they'd have trouble escaping. Turns out that even Strom Thurmond, the vocal antisegregationist and Dixiecrat who helped the South become Republican had a black love child.
By the time that the ERA was being promoted, public law schools had to hire women and in many states DA and AG offices had affirmative action programs. By the mid -90's most public law students were women and many if not most DAs who prosecuted sex crimes were women.
MAGA in large part is a backlash. Guys like Trump feel emasculated. He lost a NY sexual abuse case. He's accused of worse. When Trump sends federal agents and troops into Los Angeles, DC, Chicago, Portland, Memphis, it's in retaliation.
I don’t know if there is a written document of character requirements to run for president, or if it is just common sense that the candidate has common decency.
John F. Kennedy lacked common decency in his treatment of women before and during his marriage and presidency. His father was connected to the mob.
Yes, the Kennedys had mystique on the surface, and Jacquelyn and John had the grace and style of Cape Cod, etc., which the media ran away with to get them press.
The press wasn’t accustomed to reporting such behavior. Like Flick and Flack ushered in the back door of the WH, as Jackie left from the front door, to swim nude in the WH pool. However, there were enough people acquainted with Kennedy to have exposed John and Robert. But those same people were funding his campaign directly or with dark money.
I am not saying that I did not admire some of John’s professed statements about our country, but how he behaved with women was atrocious. I think that reverence for the Kennedys’ colors how people justify empowering a candidate with Trump’s morals to become president with the support of thousands. My step-daughter and her husband live in Texas and refuse to denounce Trump’s flawed presidency so as not to make The Donald upset.
Racism is a subset of the real problem, which is classism. Bernie knew this but couldn't convey it and thus lost South Carolina to a woman whose civil rights credentials were questionable, while his were stellar.
Race isns't enough, so they have other subsets, like religion, ethnicity, sexuality.
The best tool for controlling a society is to fragment it, by creating and fostering identities.
Humans love their identities, Christian, Jew, Muslims, White, black, brown, Asian, Raiders, Dolphin, Eagles, Bears, Cubs, gay, straight, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, capitalist, socialist, blue collar, white collar.
We not only love them we seek them out. We wear them like a NASCAR driver wears his sponsors patches.
We give the class mongers the tools by which to factionalize us
Look at pre schoolers, they have not yet been taught the game.
This is such a well constructed Report. And the accounting within is irrefutable to simple reason. Yet another "best ever" by Hartmann - a soul with the ability to see the significance in each and every individual grain of sand while simultaneously maintaining a 10,000 foot view of the sum.
I think this piece drills closer to the core of how our civilization is animated than any other I've read.
It is bizarre how this sick, self-serving sentiment that white people, and men in particular, are at the top of a hierarchy that explains and defends all their atrocities toward others as "their right" has persisted for several centuries. Our social and political ideals are gravely at odds with our cultural impulses.
Love the daily take and song. The image of felon 47 as a AI fake warrior is a visual of current "performative president" for his MAGA faithful. Looks like Digital Trading Cards NFT"s as money laundering scams. The survivors of Epstein/Maxwell/ fill in the blank___________ pedophile buddies shall have the last word. There are Woke Americans that desire much more than the 330K GB of complicity of crimes reported to be in the now bogus National Security. We have about 1%. Shout out to Honorable Rep. Ro Khanna!
Nobody gets it. An oligarchy cannot exist if there is a steeply graduated and strictly enforced income tax system and a carefully regulated manufacturing sector. If a small group has all the money, it has all the power. It can buy up companies and ruin them (private equity). It can buy politicians (lax campaign finance laws) who in turn legislate labor unions out of existence. It's about the tax system. Without it a government can't govern
I have seen far too many incompetent 2nd and 3rd generation “rich guys” screw things up. THEY never created anything, they just inherited wealth. We need to start taxing the rich, AGAIN, like we did for 40 years, before Reagan, W Bush and Trump (twice) slashed taxes on the morbidly rich and profitable corporations that are oligopolies. Want to MAGA? Go back to the policies, regulations and tax codes that built the middle class and made it great.
The syphoning of energy done by the power structure to insure white privilege deprives the nation of its diverse power of community involvement. Not allowing actual legal voters of their vote is an act of violence to the community of what is a fair society. The natural tendency to hold more power for yourself by denying the legal rights of others has to be ended by the moral sense of social fairness. Cheap wages inflames the social condition by a lack of economic power of the individual who rightly only wants what is fair for his labor. A living income is the most basic solution for this violence to society.
I end to believe that America like most other nations is somewhat currupt. and that we have turned a corner from a slow, but positive movement toward less corrption in the last centuarly to the future movement towared more corruption. Information and support is helpfull, but without also discussing compromize proposals, I believe, hurt the probabilty that the future will be beter.
We need to stop using the term "original sin" to talk about our country's failings. The term "original sin" suggests something that is inborn in humans, but countries, like corporations, aren't human, and counties do not have innate and unchageable qualities. Using the term "original sin" suggests counties have genes and a country is locked into something it cannot change. But we do have the capacity to change, so let's stop blaming our failings on "original sin" and look deeper.
What countries do have are people and people fall prey to sins like greed, pride (arrogance), wrath, envy, and so forth. When Europeans saw, what seemed to them an "empty" land, they saw that land as a means to a secure future (remember, many had no future in Europe but working other peoples' land) and all the way to a means to vast wealth. I believe human beings of any race or nation who came here, whether Polynesian, Asian, or African, etc., would have acted similarly to Europeans if they had the advantage of technological superiority and huge masses of their home population who wanted to come by the millions to live in the new territory with its better opportunities. Then humans will find ways to justify their sins. We have Mr. Buckley's prideful, greedy, explanation of why whites get to dominate. We also have "original sin" which traps us. Better to look at specific actions: arrogant (Iraq's oil is "our" oil), greedy (a tax system for the billionaires), wrathful (endless wars), envious ( the needy are "takers" and no one gets anything of "mine").
“Original sin” was a concept to support the reason for male competitiveness as justified, along with the genetic propensity to crush the opposition. What a great idea. Tell everyone the one God’s a male, too! It helps to eliminate any competition for independence and assertiveness from their closest competition for authority—women who inherit property and women that tell them what to do. This is not a race thing—it’s ripe within each racial society.
We have a rather unique experiment in the US, a wide racial mixture that over time has increased—native, white, black, and Asian, etc. Having their own ethnic customs and their personal religions. We are not called a melting pot for nothing, but previously, white was unquestionably and still remains in the majority—but getting smaller. It makes each racial, religious, and any strong ethnic group uneasy because of imbalances and tendencies to favor one’s own group and drives many white males batty because the numbers in race population are becoming more homogenous and less and less determined by mere appearance—-more competition!
Yes, original sin does not apply to any other than humans, even if Citizens United gave corporations human status.
I think the reason voters have historically fallen for the conservative movement is that they always dangle hope, a carrot of opportunity that the wealth will trickle down: voters, too, will benefit financially and be better off.
William F. Buckley was a conservative machine. I do like to listen to him speak, as he is a master of public speaking and debate, using reasoning to support his flawed idea of white rule. Besides that, he was nice-looking!
Regarding MTG, her fight for the victims is commendable but “a leopard never changes its spots.” She STILL believes Trump won the 2020 election & that the Russian election interference was a “hoax.” NEITHER are true. I think part of her distancing herself from Trump is to salvage her career. She is jumping off a sinking ship.
Also the Biden administration WAS INVESTIGATING 20 persons related to Epstein but TRUMP SHUT DOWN ALL THESE INVESTIGATIONS when he took office. This isn’t being broadcast enough.
Sorry to see your lie about the Dept of Labor showing only white people on its website. Hurts your credibility Thom. Why did you write that? We're all on computers you know. We can look at that website.
When I read your article, as I do every morning, that line caught my attention so I immediately went to the Dept of Labor website and browsed through a few pages. I saw several pictures of black and hispanic people.
Slavery in the Americas hardly started with the United States of America. This is an attempt to invent history that doesn’t exist. Slavery in the Americas began with the Spanish in the Carribean and was wide spread throughout Dutch, English, French and Portuguese colonies. It was an atrocity, but had existed for hundreds of years at the ”founding” (since the 1500s on Hispaniola). The founding fathers were attempting to build a new nation from something that already existed. Why to so many try to perpetrate a myth about the United States inventing slavery?
Trump or whoever manages his brain, Came up with a new excuse to keep the Epstein files out of the public. Classify them..
Trump ordered the release of the files, for the obvious reason, to "prove" that he has nothing to hide, then Tulsi Gabbard/Kash Patel steps in and says, no can do they contain National Security Information.
However Trump said back in 2017, that the president can declassify anything just with his mind.
So lets call on Trump to declassify the files.
This is all part of the plan to retain control of the congress. With the election coming up there are at least 100 Republican seats that are vulnerable, and having them vote yea on H.R. 4405, the Epstein Files, would go a long way to removing that vulnerability, now all Republicans can vote yea as the files are classified for "national security reasons".
It is time for Ro Khanna to take advantage of the speech and debate clause, and stand up and read aloud in the chamber the names of the perps already known. Massie said he had a list of 20 names, lets's start by reading them aloud.
Are you his agent?
The vote will expose Trump. Republicans will state whether they support preverts.
Why doesn’t Trump immediately order Bondi to make the documents public?
Prosecutors like Maureen Comey have seen the files and can testify to what they saw.
Thom's Senator, Ron Wyden has repeatedly sought to have the full Jeffrey Epstein financial files released by the U.S. Treasury Department, but has been unable to issue a subpoena for the records through the Senate Finance Committee due to a lack of bipartisan support. He has instead introduced a bill to compel their release.
Epstein is dead. Attorney client privilege died with him. The following had files and their Epstein files should be subpoenaed.
Roy Black: A prominent Miami defense attorney who was part of the legal team that negotiated the controversial 2008 non-prosecution agreement (NPA) in Florida, which allowed Epstein to avoid federal charges by pleading guilty to lesser state offenses. Black died in July 2025.
Alan Dershowitz: A Harvard Law School professor and well-known defense attorney who joined Epstein's legal team around 2005 and played a significant role in negotiating the NPA. Dershowitz has consistently denied accusations made by one of Epstein's victims that she was forced to have sex with him.
Kenneth Starr: A former independent counsel, Starr was a partner and later counsel at Kirkland & Ellis and was involved in Epstein's legal representation during the time of the 2008 plea deal.
Jay Lefkowitz: A longtime partner at Kirkland & Ellis, Lefkowitz was one of Epstein's defense attorneys in the 2007 case and met with then-U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta to discuss the plea deal.
Darren Indyke and Richard Kahn: These individuals served as Epstein's longtime personal attorney and accountant, respectively, and were named as executors of his will. They have been sued by victims who claim they helped build the financial infrastructure that enabled Epstein's abuses.
Martin Weinberg and Marc Allan Fernich: These attorneys represented Epstein in the 2019 federal sex trafficking case in New York.
We also now know that foreign governments are implicated. Bondio doesn't control the CIA records, the Treasury, the State Department.
Come on Daniel, you are way above Manichean thinking. I would think that you would be thinking strategically, don't you play chess?
You accuse me of being Trump's agent, because I think strategically, what the other side would be doing and why, instead of sitting here reacting and kvetching.
Grab a hold of some long term political strategy.
Trump said release the files.
His sycophantic cabinet says: Can't they are classified, national security matter at stake.
This gives the Republicans in congress the OK to vote to release the files, because the vote will be performative,.
Thus depriving the Democrats of ammunition in the election.
Think strategically Daniel. You have it in you.
The files are not going to be released, we know that. All the vote on HR 4405 will do is tell the public who is and who is not covering up for Trump. Now with the files classified, all can claim that they for opening up the files.
Trump is playing br'er rabbit, he always has.
Instead of using that lawyer brain of yours, you resort to low level black and white thinking. You are too attached to your own scenario that you can't get out of your own way.
William,do you and Daniel ever compliment each other? You and he should find a way to meet and have a 1 day verbal slugfest.
If the Epstein files are never fully released,most of us know that Trump is guilty of being a rapist with (E.Carroll) and almost certainly abused or raped 15 yr girls during the Epstein yrs. He will now and for the future be know as pedophile. He escaped because he used all the legalese the technofascists have provided him. Do you in you wildest dreams believe that Musk,Zuckeberg,Jensen,Cook,Andressen,Peter Thiel do not support Trump 100% in spite of what he as done. This is what a " Nazi" republic looks like.
I was Daniel's bestie, when Boris was attacking Israel and defending HAMAs, but attacking Israel and defending Putin. He is still a paid subscriber, real name not Boris.
I compliment Daniel when ever he says something astute or correct.
He is peeved because i d on't subscribe to his and Jerry Weiss scenario that we can save ourselves via the institutions that Trump has destroyed.
That all we have to do is expose the Republicans protecting perverts and we will win the next elections.
Why would you ask me this?"
Do you in you wildest dreams believe that Musk,Zuckeberg,Jensen,Cook,Andressen,Peter Thiel do not support Trump 100% in spite of what he as done. This is what a " Nazi" republic looks like."
Evidently you have not read my voluminous posts about the subject, that these tech tyrants, as well as the oil cartel,financiers, billionaires are the driving force behind Trump. The goal is an Orwellian world, where instead of Oceania we have the Technate of America. see this map. It was drawn in the 1930's, and look at South America, the three countries are Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, and what three countries are being attacked and under threat by Trump. That map also cincludes Greenland and Canada, sound familiar.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1jamyh8/a_rare_map_of_the_technate_of_america_drawn_by/
Technocracy Movement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy_movement
Hypothetical new world Orwellian order. Technate of America, Eurasia under Russia, east Asia under China, Mid East, North Africa, west Asia under a Caliphate/sultanate of Emir, The south below the Tropic of Capricorn, battle ground for exploitation of resources.
William,thanks for your response. I agree,wonder when Americans will wake up. Just read an article in the 11/3 New Yorker about AI. A wakeup call is due soon otherwise in the next 2-3 yrs we will be totally screwed by the TechnoFascists.
Technofascists. That's the word I've been looking for.. I've been reading a lot about empathy, or rather the lack of it even people commenting..
Psychopaths lack empathy. Psychopaths are not necessarily serial killers either. If you have time google psychopathic professions, you will be surprised. There are degrees of psychopathy, just like autism and sexuality there is a spectrum.
To achieve wealth and power you need to be on the spectrum, too far right on the spectrum and you are a serial killer. just to the left and you are a Elon Musk, in my opinion he occupies the same niche as a Hitler, to the left of Trump
Musk not only lacks empathy, but has disdain for it., considers it a civilizational weakness, but it has been a key element of species survival.
Were it nor for empathy in our species, we would not have survived.
But empathy is a two edged sword, too much of it and you are immobilized, your heart bleeds without pause, recognition or common sense for all pain.
There psychopaths who make their living and attain social status on utilizing empathy.
I am inundated with heart tugging ads on TV, only $19 a month $.63 a day and I can feed a child, an animal, make a child smile, give a kid a place to sleep, and on it goes. If I contributed to every non profit that wants my money, I would have no money to take care of myself.
I turn away with guilt, emotional overload. It is the same with the world's suffering, be it the Sudan, Gaza, Nigeria, Nambia, Myanmar, the America's.
I take the edge off, give myself a fix, by supporting local charities, where I can see the money is actually going.
I am pretty well off, no debts, no mortgage, steady retirement income, I own my own property and even have a renter of a garage apartment,but I sometimes muse, how much richer I would be, had I not made good choices, been lucky and colored within the lines. in other words if I had been on the psychopath spectrum., but I don't need to be richer I have every thing I couild want or need, then again I don't need or want much.
Fuck you.
Why not, but where am I wrong Daniel? What have I got wrong?
https://www.salon.com/2025/11/26/the-fight-for-the-epstein-files-isnt-over/?utm_source=salon-crashcourse.beehiiv.com&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=usha-vance-doesn-t-do-dishes&_bhlid=369063cf61f23e71470f286ebac803b98e0fc1b1
Sounds like those assholes never had to do privilege logs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRuSO_bKQrc
This victim is apparently the same person that Michael Cohen was sent by Trump to find. Tara Palmeri's reporting focuses on a "Jane Doe" lawsuit from 2016 which alleged that Trump raped a 13-year-old girl at Epstein's Manhattan townhouse in the 1990s. The lawsuit was dropped days before the election.
Cohen's Admission: In interviews with Palmeri, Michael Cohen admitted that he dispatched a private investigator to track down the anonymous plaintiff in that case. He explained his attempts to locate the woman and what his investigator found.
Silence from Media: Palmeri has highlighted her frustration that this admission has largely been ignored by mainstream media outlets, a point she discussed on The Young Turks. Podcast Episodes: The interviews and discussions are featured on "The Tara Palmeri Show."
Are you her agent?
The outcome I predicted the House and Senate passed the HR 4405, and the 100 Republicans did not expose themselves,so can't be attacked in the mid terms.
427 votes for and 1 against. I guess I can go fuck myself , huh Daniel, W F can't play chess, huh? This is what I've been predicting all along.
We have been punked yet again, we never learn, First Mueller, then the classified documents, now this
Trump says he will sign it, but the whole charade is unnecessary as he could direct Bondi to release the files, but Bondi, the sycophant, won't because there are on going investigations, and if it were not for the investigations , the Epstein files were declared a national security issue.
The whole exercise of having 100 Republicans. exposed has turned out to be a ruse.
When will people stop falling for the Lucy trick.
You said it wouldn't pass. -- said Republicabns woudn't support it -- you're full of shit -- told us not to even try to pressure Republicans.
Every Republican in the House -- except one -- voted for it. Subpoenas are requested in both houses.
As I keep sayin' there are more sources for records than DOJ
No Daniel, I said no such thing. I said we were being punked, and that the bit about 100 Republicans,, not signing H R 4405, was a ruse to have them keep their seats. If anyone is full of shit it is you and Jerry Weiss, hanging on the forlorn hope or belief that forcing a vote on HR 4405 would force the 100 to come out as protecting pedophiles.
I did say that if it passed the house, and it would, that it could be stopped in the Senate, but apparently the game plan all along was for Pam Bondi to declare that the Epstein file was part of a n ongoing investigation and could not be released, and if that doesn't work, it has already been declared to contain info vital to national security, and that is another reason it won't see the light of day. Subpoena or or not. If anything the files will be delivered, probably scrubbed, to a closed (classified) committee and will never see the light of day.
Yes there are more sources, like the Epstein estate and his brother Mark, and all of those revelations including giving Bubba a blow job,haven't moved the fucking needle.
Back to you calling me an agent of Trump and a big fuck you, you are changing the subject, you and Jerry Weiss were claiming that if we could get 100 Republicans o defect, then we could take back the House, well it looks like the Republicans are playing chess while Jerry is playing checkers.
I will say it again and again, the institutions no longer hold, they have evaporated if ever they were on the side of the common man and woman.
Placing faith and all effort on the non existent institutions to save us is a fools errand.
The techfascists, the billionaires, the oil cartel, the financiers control the institutions, all we can do is resist with a general strike, a national "intifada", but by that time it will be too late
They will have their technate of America , which if you check the map
includes Greenland, Canada, and (gasp) Ecuador, Colombia and Venezuela, the very same countries that Trump is waging war against.
https://digital.library.cornell.edu/catalog/ss:34227574
And spare me this subpoena crap. So tired of chasing swamp gas, another illusory twig to hang your hopes on.
What;s next when the subpoenas are issued by a closed and classified committee.
Thanks William. I'd hate to play you in chess as I suspect you would be 2 moves ahead of me. Yes Trump, Bondi, Patel, saying the files are classified and can't be released is a ploy they may well try. My guess is that the elected and appointed will not get the files released. The truth will have to come from retired FBI, CIA agents, witnesses and victims.
He and you know nothing about chess.
The very fact that House Republicans vote against preverts will give us 1. a huge PR victory and 2. subpoena power.
Trouble is Daniel, you have pinned your reputation on Jerry Weiss and the release of the Epstein files..
FYI, Trump has given his Republicans permission to vote for H.R. 4405 (release of the Epstein files), thus taking away this huge PR victory.
Ass regards this huge PR Victory, the Republicans who would have yea on HR 4405, were the Republicans who occupied vulnerable seats, by voting Yea they took that away from the Democrats as a campaign issue. The ones who vote Nay are in safe seats. However the vote even if it passed would go nowhere it was a Kabuki theater, as it wouldn't pass the senate, and per chance it did, Trump would veto it, so much ado over nothing.
and it is all immaterial anyway.
Trump has said that it would be OK to vote to release it.l Another performative ploy, as he could order Pam to release the files at any moment.
But he he ordered Pam Bondi to investigate Clinton et al, and thus prevented the files from being publicized as they are now part of an investigation and if that doesn't work, Tulsi and Kash, has declared them a national security threat, in other words they are classified, so they can't be delivered publicly, however Trump can declassify them anyway.
That is playing chess, evidently you can 't even play checkers, and you were a lawyer and an administrative judge?
Thanks Daniel for the clarification and I do suck at chess. Tell us what you mean by subpoena power.
Check my response to Daniel below.
Most people, journalists too, assume that the end of the Epstein Saga is nigh, now that Trump TACO'd on release. Consider this: what if Trump has already got guarantees that the Senate will tie the files in procedural knots that could extend to SCOTUS in several years?
That is what I am saying, but the Senate doesn't have to give him guarantees, Their own political survival is at stake. They are all in with Trump, like it or not., and for H.R. 4405 to be passed, it will need 60 votes
Trump has no worries, the files are
1. Considered evidence in an investigation by the FBI
2. Classified as a National Security matter.
As I said, the bill would never have gotten to Trump's desk, mich less signed, as it is unnecessary, as President he could have released the files, and can declassify them as well.
We have been suckered. There are 100 vulnerable congressmen in the 2026 election, Giving them an opportunity to vote yea on HR 4405, saves them from an attack that they are part of the pedophile coverup.
They vote yea knowing that the bill will go nowhere. Pure Kabuki theater
All I know.....
Maybe it's just a phase, "We let", but I would point out that perhaps it should read "They took". Also, they are here, as they always have been, to keep taking. The defect is in their brain, and it's fueled by ignorance, racism, misogyny, and religion.
All I know is that emotional maturity is very hard to reach. It doesn't come from intelligence. It requires a word that is used a lot these days. That would be EMPATHY. The more we study it, the more I am convinced it's both nature and nurture. We can work with that.
Time to understand that not everyone is a born warrior. Some just ARE. Fighting these bastards is hard, but it is "Good Trouble". My heart is with the Epstein Survivors and all the people being trafficked today. Corner the cowards and psychopaths like TRump. STAY LOUD! See you in the streets.
Good comment Alis. I agree, The problem with empathy is that one goes into sensory overload, The TV is flooded with save this or that only $.63 a daym then we are bombarded with video's of women and children suffering in Sudan, Ukraine, Gaza, it is too much. Too much exposure to anything builds up an immunity, if for no other reason than survival of the self.
But you are right, white people can't emphasize with non whites, and vice versa, and on it goes, regardless of how one identifies.
The Germans didn't see the humanity in the Jews whose synagogues they were burning or stores they were looting.
The rioters in LA. didn't see the humanity of the Korean shop owners they were looting.
ICE doesn't see the humanity in the people they are beating up and hauling off.
An image seared into my mind is back to the Bangladesh struggle for independence.
The image is of a crowd of Muslim's, stomping to death in a soccer stadium, a five year old Hindu boy., fast forward a half century, Guajarat, India over 2,000 Muslims put to death, most burned alive, by crowds of nationalistic Hindu.
The inhumanity of man to man is endless, and as old as man himself.
Over exposure does indeed deaden the senses if it is devoid of any dispassionate discussion, fact checking and analysis. Otherwise the images are no more than pornography, which is exactly what they are meant to be.
I can't envision a dispassionate discussion,fact checking and analysis in the wake of war porn.
When the suffering of others is used to benefit the profiteers then it is time to go after them. I'm talking about the pornographers, not the victims.
Thanks for the clarification.. In that regard the purveyors of media are war pornographers.
Porno sells, whether sex or violence.
Some Catholic saint, supposedly allowed himself to be dragged to the Coliseum by a friend. He sat in the stands covering his eyes with his hands, until he heard the crowd roar,then transfixed he lift his hands and could not break his gaze.
Thus the human condition. are we all not guilty. We can't j help but look and stare, even hungry for more.
Donald is 100% race-sick.
So are the 60% of male Whites who threw in with him.
For DT's next act, every NFL touchdown scored by a Black player will be calculated as follows:
3/5 times 6 = 3.6
All kickers must be White, according to Hegseth, so point after = 1.0.
Super essay, Mr. H.
VOTE !!! No matter what !!!
There's something vaguely familiar about 3/5. I wonder if it's too DEI to be included in today's textbooks.
You can see aspects of this mentality in the recent Department of HS (when possible I avoid using the repulsive "H" word) postings of early Norman Rockwell paintings. They have added captions about protecting the "American Way of Life". Virtually every person in them is white, although in "Painting the Statue of Liberty" (paired by them with "protect your homeland, defend your culture") an African-American worker slipped in. Given how much Rockwell later painted about racial tolerance he would be deeply disgusted, as is his family today. (These pictures were used without their permission, not that anyone in the government seems to care.)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2025/11/02/norman-rockwell-trump-dhs-anti-immigrant-social-media/86949410007/
We know about Jefferson and Sally Hemmings. Washington had his wife's slaves toes amputated so they'd have trouble escaping. Turns out that even Strom Thurmond, the vocal antisegregationist and Dixiecrat who helped the South become Republican had a black love child.
By the time that the ERA was being promoted, public law schools had to hire women and in many states DA and AG offices had affirmative action programs. By the mid -90's most public law students were women and many if not most DAs who prosecuted sex crimes were women.
MAGA in large part is a backlash. Guys like Trump feel emasculated. He lost a NY sexual abuse case. He's accused of worse. When Trump sends federal agents and troops into Los Angeles, DC, Chicago, Portland, Memphis, it's in retaliation.
Damn Daniel, now we are backon track, Absolutely agree, great comment.
I don’t know if there is a written document of character requirements to run for president, or if it is just common sense that the candidate has common decency.
John F. Kennedy lacked common decency in his treatment of women before and during his marriage and presidency. His father was connected to the mob.
Yes, the Kennedys had mystique on the surface, and Jacquelyn and John had the grace and style of Cape Cod, etc., which the media ran away with to get them press.
The press wasn’t accustomed to reporting such behavior. Like Flick and Flack ushered in the back door of the WH, as Jackie left from the front door, to swim nude in the WH pool. However, there were enough people acquainted with Kennedy to have exposed John and Robert. But those same people were funding his campaign directly or with dark money.
I am not saying that I did not admire some of John’s professed statements about our country, but how he behaved with women was atrocious. I think that reverence for the Kennedys’ colors how people justify empowering a candidate with Trump’s morals to become president with the support of thousands. My step-daughter and her husband live in Texas and refuse to denounce Trump’s flawed presidency so as not to make The Donald upset.
Beck then the press kept things under wraps. That’s why my mother died at 100 still in love with Rock Hudson, never knowing.
But Trump IS emasculated.
Racism is a subset of the real problem, which is classism. Bernie knew this but couldn't convey it and thus lost South Carolina to a woman whose civil rights credentials were questionable, while his were stellar.
Race isns't enough, so they have other subsets, like religion, ethnicity, sexuality.
The best tool for controlling a society is to fragment it, by creating and fostering identities.
Humans love their identities, Christian, Jew, Muslims, White, black, brown, Asian, Raiders, Dolphin, Eagles, Bears, Cubs, gay, straight, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, capitalist, socialist, blue collar, white collar.
We not only love them we seek them out. We wear them like a NASCAR driver wears his sponsors patches.
We give the class mongers the tools by which to factionalize us
Look at pre schoolers, they have not yet been taught the game.
Too bad they don't identify themselves as humans.
I do not understand your comment.
This is such a well constructed Report. And the accounting within is irrefutable to simple reason. Yet another "best ever" by Hartmann - a soul with the ability to see the significance in each and every individual grain of sand while simultaneously maintaining a 10,000 foot view of the sum.
I think this piece drills closer to the core of how our civilization is animated than any other I've read.
Thank you. It kind of follows on my book “the last hours of ancient sunlight.”
Agreed. Still remains one of my most treasured reads, along with Daniel Quinn's "Ishmael".
It is bizarre how this sick, self-serving sentiment that white people, and men in particular, are at the top of a hierarchy that explains and defends all their atrocities toward others as "their right" has persisted for several centuries. Our social and political ideals are gravely at odds with our cultural impulses.
A simple explanation Jeffrey is that at root it is psycho-sexual, and that is biologically driven, the need to breed.
The species has not yet evolved beyond the chimp stage.
Love the daily take and song. The image of felon 47 as a AI fake warrior is a visual of current "performative president" for his MAGA faithful. Looks like Digital Trading Cards NFT"s as money laundering scams. The survivors of Epstein/Maxwell/ fill in the blank___________ pedophile buddies shall have the last word. There are Woke Americans that desire much more than the 330K GB of complicity of crimes reported to be in the now bogus National Security. We have about 1%. Shout out to Honorable Rep. Ro Khanna!
Nobody gets it. An oligarchy cannot exist if there is a steeply graduated and strictly enforced income tax system and a carefully regulated manufacturing sector. If a small group has all the money, it has all the power. It can buy up companies and ruin them (private equity). It can buy politicians (lax campaign finance laws) who in turn legislate labor unions out of existence. It's about the tax system. Without it a government can't govern
I have seen far too many incompetent 2nd and 3rd generation “rich guys” screw things up. THEY never created anything, they just inherited wealth. We need to start taxing the rich, AGAIN, like we did for 40 years, before Reagan, W Bush and Trump (twice) slashed taxes on the morbidly rich and profitable corporations that are oligopolies. Want to MAGA? Go back to the policies, regulations and tax codes that built the middle class and made it great.
The syphoning of energy done by the power structure to insure white privilege deprives the nation of its diverse power of community involvement. Not allowing actual legal voters of their vote is an act of violence to the community of what is a fair society. The natural tendency to hold more power for yourself by denying the legal rights of others has to be ended by the moral sense of social fairness. Cheap wages inflames the social condition by a lack of economic power of the individual who rightly only wants what is fair for his labor. A living income is the most basic solution for this violence to society.
I end to believe that America like most other nations is somewhat currupt. and that we have turned a corner from a slow, but positive movement toward less corrption in the last centuarly to the future movement towared more corruption. Information and support is helpfull, but without also discussing compromize proposals, I believe, hurt the probabilty that the future will be beter.
We need to stop using the term "original sin" to talk about our country's failings. The term "original sin" suggests something that is inborn in humans, but countries, like corporations, aren't human, and counties do not have innate and unchageable qualities. Using the term "original sin" suggests counties have genes and a country is locked into something it cannot change. But we do have the capacity to change, so let's stop blaming our failings on "original sin" and look deeper.
What countries do have are people and people fall prey to sins like greed, pride (arrogance), wrath, envy, and so forth. When Europeans saw, what seemed to them an "empty" land, they saw that land as a means to a secure future (remember, many had no future in Europe but working other peoples' land) and all the way to a means to vast wealth. I believe human beings of any race or nation who came here, whether Polynesian, Asian, or African, etc., would have acted similarly to Europeans if they had the advantage of technological superiority and huge masses of their home population who wanted to come by the millions to live in the new territory with its better opportunities. Then humans will find ways to justify their sins. We have Mr. Buckley's prideful, greedy, explanation of why whites get to dominate. We also have "original sin" which traps us. Better to look at specific actions: arrogant (Iraq's oil is "our" oil), greedy (a tax system for the billionaires), wrathful (endless wars), envious ( the needy are "takers" and no one gets anything of "mine").
“Original sin” was a concept to support the reason for male competitiveness as justified, along with the genetic propensity to crush the opposition. What a great idea. Tell everyone the one God’s a male, too! It helps to eliminate any competition for independence and assertiveness from their closest competition for authority—women who inherit property and women that tell them what to do. This is not a race thing—it’s ripe within each racial society.
We have a rather unique experiment in the US, a wide racial mixture that over time has increased—native, white, black, and Asian, etc. Having their own ethnic customs and their personal religions. We are not called a melting pot for nothing, but previously, white was unquestionably and still remains in the majority—but getting smaller. It makes each racial, religious, and any strong ethnic group uneasy because of imbalances and tendencies to favor one’s own group and drives many white males batty because the numbers in race population are becoming more homogenous and less and less determined by mere appearance—-more competition!
Yes, original sin does not apply to any other than humans, even if Citizens United gave corporations human status.
I think the reason voters have historically fallen for the conservative movement is that they always dangle hope, a carrot of opportunity that the wealth will trickle down: voters, too, will benefit financially and be better off.
William F. Buckley was a conservative machine. I do like to listen to him speak, as he is a master of public speaking and debate, using reasoning to support his flawed idea of white rule. Besides that, he was nice-looking!
Regarding MTG, her fight for the victims is commendable but “a leopard never changes its spots.” She STILL believes Trump won the 2020 election & that the Russian election interference was a “hoax.” NEITHER are true. I think part of her distancing herself from Trump is to salvage her career. She is jumping off a sinking ship.
Also the Biden administration WAS INVESTIGATING 20 persons related to Epstein but TRUMP SHUT DOWN ALL THESE INVESTIGATIONS when he took office. This isn’t being broadcast enough.
Sorry to see your lie about the Dept of Labor showing only white people on its website. Hurts your credibility Thom. Why did you write that? We're all on computers you know. We can look at that website.
You can click on the link and see an article documenting that. Did they react and post some videos of people of color, or are you just trolling?
When I read your article, as I do every morning, that line caught my attention so I immediately went to the Dept of Labor website and browsed through a few pages. I saw several pictures of black and hispanic people.
I can't attach a screen shot so I'll include this link to one of the pages I'm referring to. - https://www.dol.gov/general/disasterrecovery
Slavery in the Americas hardly started with the United States of America. This is an attempt to invent history that doesn’t exist. Slavery in the Americas began with the Spanish in the Carribean and was wide spread throughout Dutch, English, French and Portuguese colonies. It was an atrocity, but had existed for hundreds of years at the ”founding” (since the 1500s on Hispaniola). The founding fathers were attempting to build a new nation from something that already existed. Why to so many try to perpetrate a myth about the United States inventing slavery?