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alis's avatar

Crime and Punishment

TRump and his Cult do not care what is right or wrong, so it follows that they have no regard for the law. To refer to morality concerning their Administration is a quaint concept. What they are doing is simply evil.

Thom, thanks for the update on the cyber warfare they are using on us. It just gets worse by the day. Some damn computer specialist is out there right now working on a new way to snare anyone fighting back.

Governor Pritzger just told them no to the troops in the streets of Chicago, so you know they will try to do it anyway. BUT, at the same time he also told them we too are TAKING NAMES. TRump will pass one way or another, and we will be coming for THEM. We won't back down. We don't give in. See you in the streets Labor Day and beyond.

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Chris Brodin's avatar

We need more people like Pritzer and Newsome to stand up against krasnov. Corporations need to take a stand as well. Giving him a 10% stake in a company will quickly escalate and creep to 100%. A national strike is needed.

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Sophia Demas's avatar

If this cyber warfare activity is tactually rue, I'm cooked.

Pritzker for president!

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Robert Herreshoff's avatar

Please, no more billionaires.

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William Farrar's avatar

A few years back there was a TV series, A Person of Interest, The villain was an AI named Samaritan , it had access to all CCTV feeds and facial recognition, it could predict movement and behaviors and the authorities would arrest or kill you for crimes not committed,but which it predicted committed. Think the movie Minority Report.

A Person of Interest ran from 2011 to 2016, another case of science fiction becoming science fact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_of_Interest_(TV_series)

Minority Report https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_(TV_series)

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

Pressure Illinois Republicans, Mike Bost, Mary Miller, Darin LaHood. Do they support the land of Lincoln?

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G2's avatar

Alis, I appreciate your sentiments and drive. I also will demonstrate and carry a sign, but I'm wondering if it will do any good. Not much good so far. Seems I ask more questions daily. Do the majority of Americans really care about preserving democracy? Where are the young people? College campuses are not exploding in nationwide protests. Should I risk fines and perhaps physical harm for people who don't give a (expletive)?

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alis's avatar

Yes, we should. I noticed we get a lot of reaction from young people. Kids in the car, chores to do on Saturday.

Wouldn't give up my expensive education to fight these idiots either. They really get the surveillance aspect.

Wait till inflation, unemployment, and AI hits them harder. They'll see the light. No answers will be given, because this regime wants a crash.

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Robert Herreshoff's avatar

Wait until one of those kids gets seriously ill and they end up having to sell their home and go into debt. It's not just actions that have consequence, inaction does too.

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William Farrar's avatar

Robert that, medical debt, is happening all of the time, especially to MAGAts, but they just find someone else to blame, and keep trucking on. We are dealing with a religious cult (secular religion) and people will find every excuse and rationalization to keep the faith.

They do so in Christianity, Judaism and Islam. Nothing deters the true believer, Also name of a great book by Eric Hoffer.

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Robert Herreshoff's avatar

Excuses are just fine until the pyre is lit. I agree, many of the True Believers will go down with the ship, but it will only take a fair number of the independents to realize they are being lied to by the apotheosis of what they were told they were voting against. Fringe MAGAts (I like MAGAts!) will also come to their senses when the overpass they are sleeping under becomes overcrowded.

I read Hoffer when I was knee-high to a ___________ (you choose). Needlesss to say, it affected my 18 year-old mind dramatically. I tried rereading him last year and it was less engaging. I guess the dialogue has moved on from him but he was definitely one of the progenitors.

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William Farrar's avatar

Sam here but I was 42 when I read Hoffer

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Richard Kiefer's avatar

Exactly my feeling.

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Robert Herreshoff's avatar

We are experiencing a manifestation of "might makes right". They seem totally immoral to us while they believe they are saving the One and True America, as determined by Jesus Christ Himself and the Founding Fathers. While in general there is no universal morality, the United States was established by the Constitution, which clearly laid out the responsibilities of the executive, legislative and judicial branches of government. Furthermore, oaths were sworn to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". In that they have abrogated their sworn office, they are undisputed enemies of that Constitution and, at least for the avowed "Christians", sinners in the eyes of God. Dante condemns them to the deepest circle of Hell, where they will be perpetually chewed by Satan. I can only wish...

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Charles Welsh's avatar

More relevant than ever:

“First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

—Martin Niemöller

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David's avatar

Charles,thanks for the reminder.

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Carl Selfe's avatar

The gerrymander fight is on. There is a new playbook, and most don’t see it, Thom. The old rules have been struck down by the Supreme Court. We need to change the gears here as fast as possible for deadly preemptive strikes. Please spread this word! Newsom has moved out on this already. Who is next? Hochul. Where are you? Pritzker. What are you doing?

https://hotbuttons.substack.com/p/gerrymander-fight?r=3m1bs

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

See you in September in DC.

https://removalcoalition.org/

Congress returns. There are many issues we can use to convince a few Congressional Republicans. Brian Fitzpatrick is a case study.

Pressure them directly, their donors, families, social friends etc. Picket. Sit in.

Proportionally 4 x more crime in MAGA Mike's home town than in DC. Memphis is the most crimeridden city in the US. Jackson, Mississippi! Bessemer, AL!

Interview the National Guardsmen. Odds are more crime at home.

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William Farrar's avatar

I shudder at invoking Jackson, besides being the states capitol it has a black mayor and is majority black., bringing it up only reinforces the underlying message in Trump, that cities with a high or majority black population are crime ridden.

On the other hand institutionalized discrimination be it Jim Crowe, red lining, hiring practices or companies moving out to Mexico has created economic deserts of desperate and often destitute people.

Everybody has to eat and what are they to do if there is no means to obtain food, clothing shelter.?

The government, Bill Clinton included, created this problem when he signed NAFTA and GATT and thus incentivized corporations to relocate to Mexico to save labor costs the government could solve this problem, but Ayn Randian Republican party and Libertrarians will have none of it.

Rope time.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

IMHO most violent crime is invesely proportional to the actual unemployment rate. Weather has a lot to do with it. Tough to get out and about in Duluth in February.

I lived in the DC area, first VA later MD when we did have a lot of violent crime. When video cameras were introduced in DC, rates dropped like a rock. If the police could still arrest for carrying unregistefred firearms, the rate would be much lower.

The joke is that the DC police is not fully funded thanks to Trump and the Republicans.

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William Farrar's avatar

I totally agree with all Daniel. no jobs, no money what is a person to do, to just eat and pay rent, much less live like everyone else.?

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William Farrar's avatar

The Republicans have been sending out mailers in California, two groups of them,one backed by Arnold Schwartzenegger These mailer are quoting civil rights icons, about how redistricting hurts minorities.

Very clever. I don't know, how Newsom and the proponents of Prop 50 are responding or even if they are.

Republicans are experts at propaganda and turning the message back on itself, and the voting public in California really is not that awake, as many good propositions have failed, because money has flowed in to defeat them via mail and media.

Newsom better be on Radio, TV and print media every day selling redistricting or it will fail.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

I got a "caging" mailer today from our Republican voter registration office.

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Richard Kiefer's avatar

Are the gerrymandering rules that important if the next (and perhaps, all) elections are cancelled; Trump basically has what he wants, so why should he risk losing any of it? Besides, he will point out how much time, effort and money would be saved without elections - and indeed, without any other government beside himself.

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Carl Selfe's avatar

Your imagination needs brakes. Service terms for every House Representative and 33 Senators expire on January 5, 2027. Don’t buy the no future elections BS.

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Christopher Koch's avatar

I am a hopeful person. Despite hard times, I like life. I am not attracted to the fascist chants “¡Abajo la inteligencia! ¡Viva la muerte!” (“Down with intelligence! Long Live Death!”), shouted by Spanish Falangists during the Civil War of the late 1930s as they overthrew the Republic with Hitler’s and Mussolini’s help. We are hearing disturbingly similar sentiments in the United States today.

I would like to believe, with Robert Reich, Thom Hartmann, and many others, that we will rise up and defeat Trump in the coming midterm elections. Social scientists note that if just 3.5% of a population actively resists a dictatorship, the regime usually collapses. One tragic exception was the Arab Spring. I’m not sure whether Americans can rally that 3.5% today.

Optimists look back to Franklin D. Roosevelt’s decisive victory over Herbert Hoover in the 1932 election, during the depths of the Great Depression. But there are many differences between 1932 and today.

The Democratic Party was unified behind FDR and his progressive rhetoric, which in some ways echoes the language of Bernie Sanders and today’s Democratic Socialists. Campaign funding came largely from individual contributions and sympathetic industries, filtered through local city and state party machines. There were no multinational corporations with the global political reach of today’s giants.

The media landscape was also very different. In the early 1930s, the U.S. had about 2,000 daily newspapers (over 13,000 in total). William Randolph Hearst’s conservative chain was the largest in the nation, and though Hearst later turned against FDR, in 1932 he gave him support. Radio was just beginning to emerge as the mass medium of politics: NBC (founded 1926) and CBS (1927) already linked dozens of affiliates, but of the 600+ licensed stations in 1932, many remained independent. There was nothing like Fox News or today’s conservative media ecosystem, which shapes the opinions of millions in a tightly controlled narrative loop.

And finally, in 1932 there was a militant labor movement and a broader progressive coalition. The AFL (and later CIO) mobilized millions of workers, while the Communist Party played an outsized role in strikes, cultural work, and education — though its contributions have often been minimized. Together these forces helped anchor FDR’s New Deal coalition, keeping many workers and poor communities aligned with the Democrats.

None of that exists at the same scale today. Despite — or perhaps because of — the odds against us, we must struggle particularly hard. In The Lord of the Rings, Frodo tells Gandalf that he wishes he had not lived in such difficult times. Gandalf replies: “So do I… and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

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David's avatar

Christopher ,great post. The hardest thing today is getting enough people especially Democrats to espouse a single issue that everyone gets behind. The Dems just never agree to have a common goal.

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Kay G's avatar

The common goal is economic!! Where are the lower prices!! The tariffs are causing prices to rise. Walmart is like Waffle House. If Walmart is raising prices then it’s hitting Trump’s base! RFKJR cutting Covid vaccinations is going to make people with elderly relatives mad. Cuts in Healthcare will enrage people.

It’s about the $$$$.

Trump’s stupidity with the Fed and tariffs are destabilizing our economy internationally.

Trump is following Putin’s instructions - look at the Russian economy.

This is still the United States. Never in history has an authoritarian experiment been attempted on a country as heavily PERSONALLY ARMED as the United States of America.

We have a guaranteed right to be armed.

The military knows it. The DHS knows it. Project 2025 knows it.

So do Gavin Newsom, and all the other Blue State Governors. So does Canada.

Keep screwing around with the prices. Keep making life tougher for regular people. Trump is dying. What happens next

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William Farrar's avatar

You would think that it was all about economics, but it isn't, this is a message that the media creates and thrives on, as do the professional political workers like strategists and analysts.

Look at what brought Trump to power, and what is he emphasizing. Economics, only peripherally with his insane tariff fixation, no Kay it is the culture war, to make America a Christian nation ruled by the bible and straight, cisgendered white men.

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Kay G's avatar

That’s what the Republican right Project 2025 is about, I agree. It’s been very successful legally so far because of the corruption in the Supreme Court. BUT - the ECONOMICS is going to sink these Assholes if we use it as a WEAPON against them!!!

The manosphere - why aren’t young men attractive to women? What do they offer? They don’t earn enough money on their own to support a family with the cost of living. Housing has become unaffordable. Child care is non-existent or extremely expensive. Nothing has been done by the Republicans to help the situation. Yet the Republicans want more “babies”! In this economy!!! They are cutting back on affordable healthcare! The Republicans offer nothing to attract young women to marry and start families with young men. The attitude of Republicans is hostile to older women. What about the mothers of these young people? Do these idiotic Republicans think young women don’t watch how their mothers are treated? Why get married???

It’s the economics - and it’s only going to get worse. Make sure the manosphere realizes that they have been lied to!!!!

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William Farrar's avatar

You nailed the problem. Germany had a problem also after WWI,and that was a shortage of men. Lives wasted on the western and eastern front.

France and England had the same problem. Hitlers solution was the lebensborn, where young women (Aryan of course) were mated with SS troops, and conditioned to accept their lot as breed cows., and for the rest of the population, a major breeding program, of propaganda extolling the mother and the housewife.

Trump has already talking about encouraging breeding (of whites of course)

The pro life movement is really suppose to build the white population, but white women still find a way, those that can't afford to travel or have an alternative are the very same demographic that they want to diminish.

Biologically the genders have evolved to necessitate a male to provide and protect the female while she gestates,gives birth and then feed and protect the child till it is old enough to fend for itself, Unlike say a lioness, who only has to protect and feed the cub for 9 months to a year.

This prolonged childhood and adolescence has created a situation where the male has to be convinced that he needs to stay around and provide for and protect his offspring, meaning also that he is "tied" to the female, and the female is of course wholly dependent on the male.

Thus the establishment of the patriarchy, and diminshment of the female.

And for millenia the role of the female is simply to be a vessel for the mini me that was the product of copulation. In Tudor England it was believed that man planted a miniature being into the woman a homoculus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_(2025_TV_series), but its gender was determined by the woman, thus her diet and activities were carefully proscribed, that ideation was not invented by the Tudors, it is simply the Tudors that committed it to paper.

in England and America, the female was not considered a full human, and although she could inherit property, she could not dispose of that property, if she wanted to sell her property, tough luck, she had to marry and then the property devolved to her husband

Ken Burns made a film, Not for Ourselves Alone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_for_Ourselves_Alone

In it he talks of 5 heiress who couldn't sell their property, so they pulled their resources and incorporated, which they could do, and donate their property to a foundation that built Vassar College

Google AI says that single and widowed wmen could buy and sell property, but tha isn't true. I've done genealogical research for two decades and know that isn't true, eventually they passed a law, Married women's rights

It started with Married Women's property rights law in NY in 1848, and slowly spread across the country

Even the 19th Amendment didn't do much for women's rights,it only passed because the men that ratified it,believed that it would double their votes, as women would vote as the husband told them.

Women's rights improved with the 1960's and the feminist movement,which Rush Limpdick called "Feminazi's"

The election of Trump was a reaction to women gaining equal rights, as well as people of color, aka the culture war, and now they are attacking women's right to vote, after they have already attacked the right to breed.

Women outnumber men on college campuses, so I am told and have read, that is because women have been freed from bondage, and males are still stuck in the world of machismo myth. A myth perpetuated by the screen and the boob tube.

Now when the show a woman in charge of a starship, and a black woman at that, there is an uproar.

Trump sits in what was the Oval office and is now the Offal Office, because of a reaction to the advances made by women, people of color, non Aryans and LGBT, it is driving them nuts and they play victim because they are no longer top dog, king of the castle, rooster of the roost.

Thus the culture war, it is more important to them than mere economics or the price of eggs.

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Kay G's avatar

You forgot Captain Janeway. 🤣 I agree with your analysis. I grew up when married women still had to have their husbands name on their bank accounts and single women had to have a male co-signor. It was bullshit.

There’s no going back. Dad’s have daughters. There’s no going back.

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William Farrar's avatar

That's my bitch David, too man with their own agenda's demanding recognition and resources as if their own cause was paramount. Democrats say they are a big tent, but inside the tent are many smaller tents, each one claiming their cause is the most important, ecology, racism, trans, homophobia, police brutality and all they have done is thrown red meat to the lions and we can see the results.

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Robert Herreshoff's avatar

If we don't rise up before 2026 we're pretty much screwed. Time to seriously to get to work.

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return to normalcy's avatar

Well, since I write to EVERYBODY I'm sure that I am on several lists. I sent letters in support to Leticia James, Adam Schiff, & Lisa Cook. I'd like to think that all those letters will get to the intended recipients but my guess is, that with Ms. Cook's letter that may be confiscated as "evidence" of some sort. Of course I told her that she was a triple threat to trump. She's a woman! She's a woman of color! And worst/scariest of all to "donnie two weeks" (that's the mob name I'm giving him.) she is an INTELLIGENT, WOMAN of COLOR! That's the trump trifecta for his fear & hatred. He cannot be bested by an intelligent, woman of color!

~~~ As for Mr. Abrego Garcia, well he's a hard working, relatively poor man of color. We just CAN'T have someone like that beat trump & his counsel of ghouls!!!!

~~~And when they come for me, an old, white woman, with cancer that sometimes needs a cane, well I have 2 very old, as in 60 years for one, & 45 years for another tickets. All paid immediately. And probably a small handful of parking tickets over the years all paid for immediately! But you can see the pattern can't you! A dangerous old woman with a driver's license. The key is I've posted many an anti-trump & Republican comment as this has progressed from 2015 to the present. I've been a member & monthly supporter of the ACLU since election night 2016! If that doesn't flash "criminal" to this group I just don't know what does!!!

See you inside!!!

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David's avatar

return -Thank you for all you're support,I sure wish more seniors would get out and do something other than talk.

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return to normalcy's avatar

Well, the way I look at it is if I'm old what have I got to lose? I can't do much but I can try to get out to protests. As for my letter writing, it keeps my mind reasonably sharp, well as sharp as an old knife can be! 😁😁😁

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Kay G's avatar

Lots of seniors are protesting but the mainstream media isn’t showing it.

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return to normalcy's avatar

They are & Steven, Heinrich Himmler, Miller, has "complained" about us!

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alis's avatar

Yes, so many old hippies, so little time. It's wonderful to know we still bother the fascists. See you on the streets!

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Robert Herreshoff's avatar

At this point all hippies are old but our freak flags still fly high, even if we no longer are.. (No tie-dye for me, however,)

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Robert Herreshoff's avatar

Oh, we do, we do. However, there does come a point where mobility becomes an issue.

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Marcymc's avatar

Don’t forget- since DOGE pretty much stole our personal information ( bank accounts in particular)-every time you make a non-cash purchase, they know where you are physically(where point of sale occurred).

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Tomonthebeach's avatar

It is truly disgusting that Thom has to write about the weaponization of the police state as we witness it here in our own backyard. That Trump is following a Russian model is consistent with my posts over the years that he has been a pawn of Putin since his first bankruptcy. The NY Russian mob almost certainly approached Trump to launder their loot thru Deutsche Bank. That was one factoid ignored by "The Apprentice."

What is far more disturbing is that the entire Republican Party is enabling this fascist takeover, and that the corruption of their Democratic Party opponents has made the DNC impotent to oppose it all. The same senility that brought down Biden will likely bring down Trump as he gets weirder and weirder daily. But the Democrats do not have a vigilante militia that will restore their power like the GOP has. The military is now totally compromised by the removal of all leaders with a sense of honor and a heart of courage. The bloodless coup is complete. I can see no path to reversal much less any national will to do so.

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Sophia Demas's avatar

I share your pessimism completely. Nothing exemplifies this regime's practice of injustice more potently than the case of Kilmar Abrego García. What makes this case special is that they admitted they erred in detaining him before shipping him off to El Salvador. And now, without any compunction, they want to send him to Uganda? So that Satan Miller can exercise his wet dream? Whether the court's ban on his deportation holds will be telling. I still harbor a ray of hope....

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David's avatar

Sophia,good post.Ihave suggested in the rallies that rather than go after Trump,which has been totally unsuccessful,we go after Satan Miller. If there were a million signs " Stephen Miller -Watch Out" it would be more productive. Now there are 2 issues with strategy.1.Americans don't know who Stephen Miller is. 2. Because he is Jewish,people could respond that it "Anti Semetic" .

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Sophia Demas's avatar

Antisemitic charges are such BS. Are the huge groups of Israeli protesters against the genocide in Gaza antisemitic? The cruelty of the Israel regime is staggering--Netanyahu fired his defense minister because he said there was no need to continue to bomb Gaza because it has already been bombed to the ground. This was a year ago! Satan Miller is the devil personified....

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David's avatar

Sophia,I agree 100%.It is time we took some action and if accused of ant-semitism,so be it. The Israel regime and Natanyahu have done nothing more than create more "Anti Semetism in the US and around the world.They are being called a " pariah state.Let's find a way to go after Satan Miller.

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William Farrar's avatar

There is a problem. the Gaza Israeli war has indeed provided an excuse for antisemites to come out of the closet.

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William Farrar's avatar

I think that Stephen Miller is working his way up to Muslims, starting with immigrants first, he is behind the revoking of citizenship status.

Remember it was he behind the Muslim ban on Trump 1.0

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Sophia Demas's avatar

I hope you're wrong....

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

1. Show me the (wo)man and Trump will show us the "crime" comes from the Putin/Stalin/Beria handbook. Stalin used "show trials" to terrorize and intimidate the Russian population. We have an opportunity in September to convince some Republican members of Congress that they're next.

Today, Trump called out Chuck Grassley for upholding the so-called blue slip practice to announcing plans to launch a long-shot lawsuit arguing that it’s unconstitutional. Says he's suing the Senate Judiciar Committee. Other Republican members: Marsha Blackburn (Tennessee), Katie Britt (Alabama), John Cornyn (Texas), Mike Crapo (Idaho), Ted Cruz (Texas), Josh Hawley (Missouri), Mike Lee (Utah), Eric Schmitt (Missouri), Thom Tillis (North Carolina). Except for Tillis, these are his own people.

Reminds me how Stalin eliminated the old Bolsheviks and Hitler committed the murder of Ernest Rolhm and the brownshirts in the "night of the long knives."

2. Abrego Garcia. This morning, Joyce Vance, a former US Attporney and deputy AG said "The notion that the government would try to coerce a plea with an offer of Costa Rica and the threat of Uganda is abhorrent. An attorney general and anyone else in leadership who would countenance it is unfit to serve".

I probably pissed her off because I said to most defendants that's just what the government usually does. That "coerced plea" to go to Costa Rica a free man Joyce describes sounds familiar. Sounds like some of the drug cases in the 1970's-1980's. The defense lawyer has to communicate that offer to the defendant.

I'd expect most would take it.

It's the nature of plea bargaining. If courts had to try efvery case, most defendants would go free, innocent or guilty, because of the speedy trial rule. The burden is on the COURT to move cases.

That's just the initial offer. It's the first step in a potential plea bargain. Abrego Garcia has to decide whether to risk breaking rocks in hard time for the rest of his life vs sun and fun and freedom in Costa Rica.

The counter could include stuff like relocation expenses, settlement of any pending civil litigation, seed money and or living expenses, etc.

Like I said, Abrego's lawyers have a duty to communicaate the offer to him and explain the ramifications. Malpractice insurance companies want their insured lawyers to do it in writing, to be held in case there are later ramifications.

The pressure is on the defendant but also on the lawyers, who often are accused of misrepresenting the WATNA, the worst that can happen, to the client.

The bottom line is that it is not the lawyers' decision.

It's up to Abrego Garcia.

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alis's avatar

Thank you, Costa Rica, for extending him a welcome. He's a trained and good worker. Our loss. I'm so hoping they go.

Glad you explained the basics, Daniel.

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William Farrar's avatar

It is a trap, Costa Rica is an offer, which can probably will be withdrawn, the moment he pleads guilty.

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alis's avatar

Wrote before I read about the trap, it definitely is one. The US government has no final deal with Uganda. Prison here could be fatal. Rotten regime. Vile Pam Bondi. I hope she ends up in jail.

Uganda has taken in a couple million refugees and wants to help people in danger that can't go home. So that option, might just help him eventually get to Costa Rica. Sounds like Uganda could be the good guys in all of this.

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William Farrar's avatar

The whole regime will wind up in prison, if the Democrats had any balls, and that is why the regime will do whatever has to be done to stay in power forever. I think we have had the last election, there might be ballot casting like in Hungary,Russia or Turkey, but they will be a charade.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

Doesn't have to accept their terms. That's why it's called plea bargaining.

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William Farrar's avatar

He hasn't. What;s to plea bargain he did not commit the crimes they are accusing him of. Trump and Bondi, just can't lose, the Roy Cohn maxim, they will hound him to death, until they get something.

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Elaine HInes's avatar

When you say "we must" the first item on the list is register Democrats, and remind them to vote. Every election local, state and federal are crucial to holding on to the kind of government that benefits everyone. We lost sight of what it takes to elect a candidate. Voter registration has to be ongoing to counter voter purges in GOP controlled areas and it needs to be organized and well funded. GOP has surged ahead in registering voters, and we must up our game. I routinely remind friends and family to vote in every election. It works for me. Start there.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

Check out Field Team 6.

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Elizabeth Fenlon's avatar

You are so exactly right, Professor Hartmann. It’s frightening because it’s true what you say. We are all at risk. This is autocracy and it’s ugly.

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Jon Notabot's avatar

This is the best Thom piece I've read to date. I don't have anything useful to add - just read the thing.

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Tom Halstead's avatar

It is deeply reassuring that Democratic governors and AG’s aren’t taking their cues from congressional “leadership”, and that we have an increasingly-potent answer to the equally feckless legacy M$M.

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William Farrar's avatar

Corporate media Tom, calling them MSM only obfuscates who they really are. Corporations created and maintained to provide a profit for investors

They are, by their nature amoral actors.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

You guys have no clue about Dem leadership. Keep dividing MAGA opposition.

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William Farrar's avatar

The clue I have is what I see, and what I see I don't like. Now there is Pritzker and Newsom has come back from the dark side, which he joined when he sat down with Steve Bannon and Charlie Kirk, and jumped on the trashing trans train.

Feeding raw meat to our very own Hitler

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

Since when are they in Congress? Represent the DNC?

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William Farrar's avatar

Unfortunately Pritzker and Newsom don't represent the DNC, I wish they did, but damn they are leadership that just might give the DNC some balls.

Hopefully they are the new democratic party

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

As one of my characters says, "You no know wa' you no know."

You buy BS from MSNBC.

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Jeffrey Hobbs's avatar

This is how they create their universe of alternative facts--find bits and pieces of innocuous information and knit them together into a conspiracy. Then hit and hold the repeat button until it becomes conventional wisdom. This method works as a "crime reduction" tactic as well. Leave your cell phone at home.

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David's avatar

Jeffrey,just remember,it not only Doge who stole our information. There is a company Palantir who is more complicit than Doge is getting our information.Remember " Palantir".They paid paid their CEO Alex Kart 6.6 Billion dollars this yr.

Remember " Wall Street" is not you're friend,they would gladly give up democracy for $1.00. Boycott CNBC,get the names of the commentators ,send messages to them,you are unhappy they have given up democracy .Their guests are almost always members of the Trumps economic group.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

The way I look at it, Trump is running an extortion racket and some of the victims are the "guests" on CNBC. In corporation law, the chiefs are supposedly responsible to the braves and the public. Analyists follow potential shareholder derivitive actions for those who are extorted.

Many, if not most of the "hosts" are just talking heads.

Meanwhile Comcast is spinning CNBC AND MSNBC into a new, independent publicly traded company called Versant Media.

Xfinity is the brand name that Comcast uses for its consumer-facing services like internet, TV, phone, and mobile. Comcast is the parent company, and Xfinity is essentially the product line. In my condo, I am locked into Comcast and Xfinity.

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David's avatar

Daniel,agree.They seem to have a propensity to have the bad actors including Lutnick who unfortunatey escaped 9/11. Jim Kramers kissing of Trump a few months ago after the election,just totally disgusting and so ass kissing.Some of the afternoon commentators are disgusting and so " Trumpists".

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William Farrar's avatar

Lutnik was the CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald, when the airplane stuck the WTC, Cantor Fitzgerald told it's employees to stay seated at their desk, god forbid they might lose some trades.

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William Farrar's avatar

Comcast is owned by BrianL. Roberts, the buck stops there.

MSNBC is going to be renamed MSNow.

Shares in Versant will be distributed to Comcast shareholders and trade independently thereafter; it will have the same share structure as Comcast, with Brian L. Roberts and his family holding a 33% voting share.[3] wikipedia

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

Roberts is the CEO. Not a sole propriortorship.

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William Farrar's avatar

Roberts owns 33% of the shares, which is a controlling interest and is Chairman of the Board and CEO which means he controls programming, who is hired and who is fired. Good enough.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

I know the family. He is vulnerable to shareholder derivitives. His family stopped donating to politicians-- it was big news in Philly.

I'm sure he, like most CEOs, delegate. I submit complaints about Xfinity all the time....

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William Farrar's avatar

Palantir owned and created by Peter Thiel, and this shows how the world really works, Peter Thiel is gay, and J D Vance confessed to such desires in his book, and he is very adept at eye liner, that he is married with children means nothing, lots of gay and bisexuals are married with children.

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Gordon Berry's avatar

For sure, Pritzker has a plan - we are ready for the felon's "army" in Chicago - we will surround them in their little citadels in and around the city - they will NOT have a chance to get on our streets in the "beautiful friendly city on the lake".

Anyone in a mask with or without a gun will be immediately caught, and locked up in our own secret jails - if they still resist our DEMOCRACY, a place in the deep Lake Michigan is waiting for them.

We stopped Capone - we will stop them!

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Karen A. Owens's avatar

Yes, guilty till proven innocent..... THAT'S BACKWARDS! I didn't even go to Law School and I know that. Thom.... Why are people and judges not stepping up to stop this total disregard of our laws.

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Richard Kiefer's avatar

People and judges have not stepped up because they have been threatened; for instance, the fact that Trump was often warned (about outbursts and threats in court) and convicted with no meaningful punishment can only ( in my view) be explained in this way.

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Sidney Smart's avatar

Thank you Thom Hartmann. You are one of my great heroes

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