You don't need to win the case when the raid, the indictment, the legal bills, and the public humiliation have already delivered the message to everyone else…
Eugene Debs went to prison in 1919 for speaking against the US entering WWI. He called it a class war. As it turns out, he was correct. J.P. Morgan had loaned billions to the U.K. so they could defeat Germany. If the UK lost, so would J.P. Morgan, and the US economy would take a hit.
Prosecutors face no penalty for filing frivolous, meritless lawsuits, but their targets suffer substantially for having done nothing wrong. The prosecutors should have to pay their legal bills and offer a sincere public apology for the reputational damage they caused. This rule should also extend to malicious government "investigations" of political opponents.
Yep Justice for us, the law for the restThe only way we Lilliputans can defeat the giant is if we coalesce, but we are kept divided by factions. special interests who think their cause and only their cause has priority over others. And who knee jerk react over stupid shit like a chest tattoo.
The thing is is it isn’t trump. He is just a tool of Ptoject 2025, although in his lucid moments he enjoys the shit out this power play. Russ Vought and the Heritage Foundation and other assorted fascist groups are behind all of this fuckery. They know trump won’t be anywhere near lucid much longer. They are busy laying the groundwork for the post-trump Reich. Having said that, trump, if he survives long enough, must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and he and his family, including Javanka, must be left penniless and destitute!
While as president Trump may unfortunately be immune to lawsuits--that is the policy, though never tested in court--I think you are right about the future, Larry. What worries me with Vance is that if this snake gets into office he may have even worse policies passed since people will be so relieved to work with someone who sounds "normal".
Personally I think the only long-term answer, and it is expecting a lot of people, is to do the "I am Spartacus" routine. If enough of us keep standing in opposition then the system won't be able to handle that many cases. Oh, there may be some show trials, but what are they going to do if millions wear armbands saying "8647"? If enough people accept it, you can turn a nation into a prison, but you can't jail everybody. And sooner or later a tipping point will be reached where the majority of people just have had enough of it. What this gang is doing to the economy is accelerating that process.
The scariest part of Rule #1 in the dictator’s playbook isn’t that they attack the press or independent institutions... it’s how many people either cheer it on or stay quiet because they think it won’t affect them.
History shows this pattern rarely stops at the first target. Once the precedent is set, it expands.
What do you think is the most effective way to push back before it becomes normalized?
Trump's decades long practice of abusing the justice system because he could find corrupt attorneys and had the money to outlast the people he victimized was well-known and publicized. There should have been an aggressive move to brand him as a fraud and as a habitual abuser of courts. "Abuse of process" is a prosecutable offense. He should have been and still could be charged for this travesty. It should be the headline that doesn't go away until he does. Isn't this one major reason judicial and court organizations exist and the job of the ACLU?
Malicious prosecution is evidently a no-no, but not enough of a no-no to result in punishment. Perpetrators should be subject to fines and imprisonment. Victims should receive full restitution AND punitive damages. Our legal system reflects a notion that if you *can* do something, you *should*, hence we are awash in unethical officers of the court dedicated to lining their pockets and/or destroying innocent lives. Members of the bar make up a large proportion of lawmakers at all levels, which presumably explains the existence and perpetuation of this system. Along with campaign finance reform and trust-busting, containment of this abuse-provoking/supporting reality must be high on the list of priorities going forward.
I said it last year, and again many times, we are living in an illusion, so long as people can drive a car, have a cell phone, they believe that nothing really has changed.
The frog is being boiled and it is close to being actually boiled.
Trump spilled the beans when he said that he doesn't care about inflation, Pam, Todd, all o them have stood before congress, argued, insulted and berated them, and that should have scared the shit our you. because they know that there will be no consequences, ever, and the only consequence would be if they turned against Trump.
Why want there be any consequences . you might ask. Well stupid of your to ask, because the Regime is not going anywhere, even if Trump is hauled out on a gurney with his face covered, the regime will stay in power.
Trump is only the avatar, the face of the regime, the regime is an alliance of tech bros, billionaires, millionaires and the dupes and dunces called MAGA.
The only thing that they don't control yet, is the blue states, and blue state governors and attorney generals are not using the power that they have to thwart them. and the have plenty
Start hear Christopher Armiage has produced many articles with even templates, as to how our governors and attorney's generals could do something, so far they have done nothing, or as Gov Sherril of NJ used the State Police to assistance ICE, or as Mayor Baracka of Newark, used the police to protect ICE .
QUESTION: Why can't these victims of trump's malicious filings make the administration pay their legal bills? They've had to hire lawyers to defend themselves so why can't the issue of legal bills be a part of that filing?
Just t be clear, this is nothing new. When I returned from being the first American reporter to visit North Vietnam in 1965 and reporterd that we were bombing cilvialian targets and were likely to lose the war, my passport was lifted, seven years of back rtaxes were audited, and I was blacklisted from brascast journalism by the workof the FBI. And a democrat was president. We've been here before
Rule #1 has always been the same: Control what people are allowed to know, then punish anyone who tells the truth. It’s not subtle. It’s just effective until enough people stop playing along. The post I wrote yesterday, that's complete more subscribers in a single day than anything I've ever read I think I'm at 50 and Counting. One Day.
Eugene Debs went to prison in 1919 for speaking against the US entering WWI. He called it a class war. As it turns out, he was correct. J.P. Morgan had loaned billions to the U.K. so they could defeat Germany. If the UK lost, so would J.P. Morgan, and the US economy would take a hit.
Yep, but that wasn't the only reason Gloria,
Prosecutors face no penalty for filing frivolous, meritless lawsuits, but their targets suffer substantially for having done nothing wrong. The prosecutors should have to pay their legal bills and offer a sincere public apology for the reputational damage they caused. This rule should also extend to malicious government "investigations" of political opponents.
You are supposed to be able to sue for malicious prosecution, but first you have to be able to afford a lawyer.
Yep Justice for us, the law for the restThe only way we Lilliputans can defeat the giant is if we coalesce, but we are kept divided by factions. special interests who think their cause and only their cause has priority over others. And who knee jerk react over stupid shit like a chest tattoo.
Well said.
The thing is is it isn’t trump. He is just a tool of Ptoject 2025, although in his lucid moments he enjoys the shit out this power play. Russ Vought and the Heritage Foundation and other assorted fascist groups are behind all of this fuckery. They know trump won’t be anywhere near lucid much longer. They are busy laying the groundwork for the post-trump Reich. Having said that, trump, if he survives long enough, must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and he and his family, including Javanka, must be left penniless and destitute!
While as president Trump may unfortunately be immune to lawsuits--that is the policy, though never tested in court--I think you are right about the future, Larry. What worries me with Vance is that if this snake gets into office he may have even worse policies passed since people will be so relieved to work with someone who sounds "normal".
Personally I think the only long-term answer, and it is expecting a lot of people, is to do the "I am Spartacus" routine. If enough of us keep standing in opposition then the system won't be able to handle that many cases. Oh, there may be some show trials, but what are they going to do if millions wear armbands saying "8647"? If enough people accept it, you can turn a nation into a prison, but you can't jail everybody. And sooner or later a tipping point will be reached where the majority of people just have had enough of it. What this gang is doing to the economy is accelerating that process.
The scariest part of Rule #1 in the dictator’s playbook isn’t that they attack the press or independent institutions... it’s how many people either cheer it on or stay quiet because they think it won’t affect them.
History shows this pattern rarely stops at the first target. Once the precedent is set, it expands.
What do you think is the most effective way to push back before it becomes normalized?
Trump's decades long practice of abusing the justice system because he could find corrupt attorneys and had the money to outlast the people he victimized was well-known and publicized. There should have been an aggressive move to brand him as a fraud and as a habitual abuser of courts. "Abuse of process" is a prosecutable offense. He should have been and still could be charged for this travesty. It should be the headline that doesn't go away until he does. Isn't this one major reason judicial and court organizations exist and the job of the ACLU?
Malicious prosecution is evidently a no-no, but not enough of a no-no to result in punishment. Perpetrators should be subject to fines and imprisonment. Victims should receive full restitution AND punitive damages. Our legal system reflects a notion that if you *can* do something, you *should*, hence we are awash in unethical officers of the court dedicated to lining their pockets and/or destroying innocent lives. Members of the bar make up a large proportion of lawmakers at all levels, which presumably explains the existence and perpetuation of this system. Along with campaign finance reform and trust-busting, containment of this abuse-provoking/supporting reality must be high on the list of priorities going forward.
I said it last year, and again many times, we are living in an illusion, so long as people can drive a car, have a cell phone, they believe that nothing really has changed.
The frog is being boiled and it is close to being actually boiled.
Trump spilled the beans when he said that he doesn't care about inflation, Pam, Todd, all o them have stood before congress, argued, insulted and berated them, and that should have scared the shit our you. because they know that there will be no consequences, ever, and the only consequence would be if they turned against Trump.
Why want there be any consequences . you might ask. Well stupid of your to ask, because the Regime is not going anywhere, even if Trump is hauled out on a gurney with his face covered, the regime will stay in power.
Trump is only the avatar, the face of the regime, the regime is an alliance of tech bros, billionaires, millionaires and the dupes and dunces called MAGA.
The only thing that they don't control yet, is the blue states, and blue state governors and attorney generals are not using the power that they have to thwart them. and the have plenty
Start hear Christopher Armiage has produced many articles with even templates, as to how our governors and attorney's generals could do something, so far they have done nothing, or as Gov Sherril of NJ used the State Police to assistance ICE, or as Mayor Baracka of Newark, used the police to protect ICE .
https://cmarmitage.substack.com/p/the-psychology-of-defeating-fascism
Pass it on.
https://cmarmitage.substack.com/p/the-american-reformation-my-new-book
QUESTION: Why can't these victims of trump's malicious filings make the administration pay their legal bills? They've had to hire lawyers to defend themselves so why can't the issue of legal bills be a part of that filing?
Just t be clear, this is nothing new. When I returned from being the first American reporter to visit North Vietnam in 1965 and reporterd that we were bombing cilvialian targets and were likely to lose the war, my passport was lifted, seven years of back rtaxes were audited, and I was blacklisted from brascast journalism by the workof the FBI. And a democrat was president. We've been here before
Rule #1 has always been the same: Control what people are allowed to know, then punish anyone who tells the truth. It’s not subtle. It’s just effective until enough people stop playing along. The post I wrote yesterday, that's complete more subscribers in a single day than anything I've ever read I think I'm at 50 and Counting. One Day.
https://uncomfortable.rxansmithmedia.com/p/united-we-stand-is-a-mathematical?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=5xf1q5