Thank you Mr. Hartmann, this article is amazing and I would guess this information is unknown to most americans. I appreciate your research and all of your work as always.
Take away the obvious differences in skin color and hair, and there is no difference between those who are designated White and those who are not. Race is a made-up category to justify our invasion/exploitation/degradation of other peoples whose lands, labor, and resources we covet. There is nothing superior about being a thief.
There are some differences in transplant success rates across various ethnic groups due to their genetic pools, but that has nothing to do with anything about them as people. I agree with you about race, it is as made up as the Nazi distinctions of Jews and Aryans (a language group, incidentally).
I wonder what Hoffman would have made of the Japanese "race" if it turned out they tested with higher IQs or were more "industrious" than American and European whites. He probably would have called it the equivalent of "fake news" and ignored the implications. After all, that's how racism works. It is what those with nothing else will fall back on to give themselves pride.
I hope Hoffman's great-grandchildren are married to people of color or working for people of color. Love, proximity, and education can cure some of us.
Thanks for the history lesson, Thom. It's ugly and we need to face it. America might come together over health care, because our lack of it is killing us. See you in the streets.
Thom's interesting biography of Her Hoffmann is the American Dream. He not only went from poverty to wealth, but he also was a model citizen who contributed to national health promotion societies very much alive and influential today.
Was Hoffman a racist? Well, the statistics are in his favor if you ignore what behavioral scientists refer to as intervening variables. Hoffman's equation ignored low access to quality (if any) education, low access to jobs with middle-class wages, and low access to decent food, clothing, and housing with decent plumbing and low exposure to disease. Those factors would shorten the life expectancy of a member of any race.
So, was Hoffman a racist or just somebody who misconstrued the data because they ignored causal variables in American society, and/or mistakenly accepted a eugenic explanation rather than accept a social one due to society's history of abusing racial minorities? In either case, it manifested socially as racial discrimination.
Racism is the reason there is opposition to SNAP, public education, and all other social programs, and if it was believed that only blacks benefit from bridges we wouldn't have them as well.
What to make of, what to do with a country, like that
Interesting that the thread of 1800's rascism that has been carried forward with Hoffman's pedantic science. American history is mired in this miserable theme that has so debilitated human progress. How emotionally ignorant, immoral, and backward can a society be? And will be to the demise of a once otherwise vibrant group of people.
One aspect of this that should be noted is the self-hatred or lack of self-regard that these ideas instill in the people being debased, and the fact that Hoffman started out with no small amount of self-loathing or self-contempt, as shown in the remarks made by his mother and probably indicated in his physical stature. Supremacy is probably almost always a compensatory mechanism employed in an attempt to overcome self-hatred or a massive lack of self-confidence and self-love and respect. Maybe we should give Elon Musk a gold star and pat him on the head to bolster his self-esteem.
This is a little scary, I see a trend of immigrants, welcomed into our country to try and destroy it!!!! This guy, mush, runt & family!!! We obviously need better vetting!!! But now we know what their scheme is, we must take away their citizenship, and deport them, put them on a list to never let them back in!!! EVER, NOT EVEN TO VISIT!!! They need to lose EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING THEY GAINED FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!!
WHY THE HELL HAVE WE PUT UP WITH THESE PEOPLE???? THEY ARE NOT THE SMARTEST PEOPLE ALIVE, THEY ARE FRAUDS, VERY MUCH LIKE NIXON!!! STOP FORGIVING CON ARTISTS!!! THEY ARE NO BETTER THAN RAPISTS!!! WE SEE IT, WE EVEN BELIEVE IT, BUT ARE “TOO NICE” TO STOP THE BEHAVIOR FOR OUR OWN GOOD!!!
I sent you a message about a virtual national town hall this Wednesday at 8:00 PM EDT. I hope you will restock it and spread the word. I hope you will attend too.
Bruce, you can win a bet that this info is unknown to most United Statesians, esp, white United Statesians. The so-called "Greatest Country in the world" is a projection, it is gaslighting and it is an obvious meaningless slogan. The United States has millions of wonderful people who somehow emerged from the evil melting pot of European depravity. And the worst seeds of said depravity. The European model is also one of class and race prejudice. The superior Europeans are from Britain, France, Germany who have always scorned the Eastern and "southern" Europeans. And don't even consider the obvious class distinctions that this nation refuses to acknowledge because of Marx doncha know.
I always wonder why any seriously educated and/or linguistically proficient Democrat hasn't turned Hoffman's and any libertarian language usage back on itself - a reverse spin. I guess the D's really don't have anyone capable of doing that. Seems like a simple idea to me. Although I seem to recall that Gore Vidal kind of did that to Bill Buckley in live aired debates. Go Gore Vidal.
Thank you Mr. Hartmann, this article is amazing and I would guess this information is unknown to most americans. I appreciate your research and all of your work as always.
Take away the obvious differences in skin color and hair, and there is no difference between those who are designated White and those who are not. Race is a made-up category to justify our invasion/exploitation/degradation of other peoples whose lands, labor, and resources we covet. There is nothing superior about being a thief.
There are some differences in transplant success rates across various ethnic groups due to their genetic pools, but that has nothing to do with anything about them as people. I agree with you about race, it is as made up as the Nazi distinctions of Jews and Aryans (a language group, incidentally).
I wonder what Hoffman would have made of the Japanese "race" if it turned out they tested with higher IQs or were more "industrious" than American and European whites. He probably would have called it the equivalent of "fake news" and ignored the implications. After all, that's how racism works. It is what those with nothing else will fall back on to give themselves pride.
I hope Hoffman's great-grandchildren are married to people of color or working for people of color. Love, proximity, and education can cure some of us.
Thanks for the history lesson, Thom. It's ugly and we need to face it. America might come together over health care, because our lack of it is killing us. See you in the streets.
If Americans survive climate change, but are still under Trump's (or his successor's) thumb, then white Americans' IQs will probably test lower
than most throughout the world.
Thom's interesting biography of Her Hoffmann is the American Dream. He not only went from poverty to wealth, but he also was a model citizen who contributed to national health promotion societies very much alive and influential today.
Was Hoffman a racist? Well, the statistics are in his favor if you ignore what behavioral scientists refer to as intervening variables. Hoffman's equation ignored low access to quality (if any) education, low access to jobs with middle-class wages, and low access to decent food, clothing, and housing with decent plumbing and low exposure to disease. Those factors would shorten the life expectancy of a member of any race.
So, was Hoffman a racist or just somebody who misconstrued the data because they ignored causal variables in American society, and/or mistakenly accepted a eugenic explanation rather than accept a social one due to society's history of abusing racial minorities? In either case, it manifested socially as racial discrimination.
Racism is the reason there is opposition to SNAP, public education, and all other social programs, and if it was believed that only blacks benefit from bridges we wouldn't have them as well.
What to make of, what to do with a country, like that
Hoffman’s evils are still with us.
Interesting that the thread of 1800's rascism that has been carried forward with Hoffman's pedantic science. American history is mired in this miserable theme that has so debilitated human progress. How emotionally ignorant, immoral, and backward can a society be? And will be to the demise of a once otherwise vibrant group of people.
One aspect of this that should be noted is the self-hatred or lack of self-regard that these ideas instill in the people being debased, and the fact that Hoffman started out with no small amount of self-loathing or self-contempt, as shown in the remarks made by his mother and probably indicated in his physical stature. Supremacy is probably almost always a compensatory mechanism employed in an attempt to overcome self-hatred or a massive lack of self-confidence and self-love and respect. Maybe we should give Elon Musk a gold star and pat him on the head to bolster his self-esteem.
Paradoxically, Hitler adopted arguments like (if not specifically) those of Hoffman to instill Aryan superiority in Third Reich Germany.
This is a little scary, I see a trend of immigrants, welcomed into our country to try and destroy it!!!! This guy, mush, runt & family!!! We obviously need better vetting!!! But now we know what their scheme is, we must take away their citizenship, and deport them, put them on a list to never let them back in!!! EVER, NOT EVEN TO VISIT!!! They need to lose EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING THEY GAINED FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!!
WHY THE HELL HAVE WE PUT UP WITH THESE PEOPLE???? THEY ARE NOT THE SMARTEST PEOPLE ALIVE, THEY ARE FRAUDS, VERY MUCH LIKE NIXON!!! STOP FORGIVING CON ARTISTS!!! THEY ARE NO BETTER THAN RAPISTS!!! WE SEE IT, WE EVEN BELIEVE IT, BUT ARE “TOO NICE” TO STOP THE BEHAVIOR FOR OUR OWN GOOD!!!
He had 7 children. Did any of them continue his work, or are any involved in any government?
I sent you a message about a virtual national town hall this Wednesday at 8:00 PM EDT. I hope you will restock it and spread the word. I hope you will attend too.
Stunning history I've never seen or heard...not even a whisper of this. Amazing and sad at the same time. Horrible is not too strong a word.
Bruce, you can win a bet that this info is unknown to most United Statesians, esp, white United Statesians. The so-called "Greatest Country in the world" is a projection, it is gaslighting and it is an obvious meaningless slogan. The United States has millions of wonderful people who somehow emerged from the evil melting pot of European depravity. And the worst seeds of said depravity. The European model is also one of class and race prejudice. The superior Europeans are from Britain, France, Germany who have always scorned the Eastern and "southern" Europeans. And don't even consider the obvious class distinctions that this nation refuses to acknowledge because of Marx doncha know.
I always wonder why any seriously educated and/or linguistically proficient Democrat hasn't turned Hoffman's and any libertarian language usage back on itself - a reverse spin. I guess the D's really don't have anyone capable of doing that. Seems like a simple idea to me. Although I seem to recall that Gore Vidal kind of did that to Bill Buckley in live aired debates. Go Gore Vidal.