TRump has spent a lifetime throwing people under the bus, so it must be really crowded. Donold has NEVER taken responsibility for any of the things he has screwed-up.
Psychopaths only regret how a decision affects THEM---they do not learn from it. We won the high ground on Minneapolis, for now. The war on decency will morph and move on to some other community in the President's crosshairs. Everything Thom said in this Report tracks.
We need to demand the names of those criminals. That would be the beginning of a full and fair investigation. See you in the streets.
ICE was a functionary civil servant organization, It didn't carry long guns, masks, or bullet proof vests,.
The new ICE was untrained and uninitiated into GESTPO like tactics.
Bovino was the district CBP chief in El Centro, and the Border Patrol uses brute force, even death, because nobody sees them in the desert, they are limited to 100 miles of gthe border.
Bovino was chosen to train and acclimate ICE to violence, he did his job, ICE is trained and now he is sent back to El Centro along with the killers of pretti.
We need to do a lot of things, that will never be done, because we don't have the power..
It is all about power, you either have it, or you are a victim. And power flows from the barrel of a weapon.
At first, I thought your remarks were ridiculous, but after I read it all, I concluded that you are probably correct. Why would Trump waste an effective enforcement thug? He just needs to move him back behind that curtain where the MSM never peeks.
If there is one thing we should have learned in all of this time, Never take things, especially Trump, at face value. There is always an ulterior motive.
Another thing though he instinctively lies, when he tells you what he is going to do, believe him.
Another thing, once he gets an ideation, he doesn't give up, he does not surrender, he does not back off, he doubles down, if not immediately then eventually.
He said he wasn't going to to take action about Veneuela, as the same time, JSOC was planning and training.
He said that he won't take Greenland by force, but he will take it by other means, and Mark Rutte, Sec Gen of NATO, told NATO, that Europe needs Trump. Goodbye Greenland.
If he doesn't invade, he will buy it with our money, piecemeal, using the farce of the Golden Dome as an excuse, and ofcourse Praxis city Greenland
Praxis is a proposed "Network City-State" in Greenland initiated by Dryden Brown, backed by hundreds of millions in venture capital, including Pronomos Capital. It aims to be a technologically advanced, libertarian city with AI-augmented governance and "Elon-compatible" labor laws. The project focuses on building a, private, high-tech, and rapidly developed community.
In 2025, Elon Musk publicly supported the idea of the United States acquiring Greenland, posting on X: "If the people of Greenland want their territory to join America, we should accept them!"
If interested where his Greenland obsession came from, read the following TL:DR
Based on recent reports and the details provided, here is the breakdown of Elon Musk's connections to the Praxis "network state" project in Greenland:
No Direct Investment: While Musk is closely linked to the network of individuals pursuing this, he is not listed as a direct investor in the Praxis venture, which is primarily backed by Peter Thiel’s Pronomos Capital [1].
Connection to Founders: Praxis founder Dryden Brown has expressed interest in using the proposed Greenland site to build a prototype of "Terminus," the name Musk has previously proposed for a future city on Mars [1].
Political Alignment: In 2025, Elon Musk publicly supported the idea of the United States acquiring Greenland, posting on X: "If the people of Greenland want their territory to join America, we should accept them!" [1].
Shared Circles: The project is pushed by "techno-libertarian" investors, including Peter Thiel and Ken Howery (a former business partner of Musk and Thiel) [1].
Lack of Corporate Involvement: Despite the connections to his associates, there is no evidence that SpaceX or any of Musk's companies are involved in the Greenland project [1].
In summary, Musk is closely aligned with the individuals and philosophy behind the Greenland initiative but is not an active participant in the Praxis venture itself [1].
Praxis, a "network state" startup focused on creating low-regulation, technology-driven charter cities, is actively exploring establishing a site in Greenland, driven by founder Dryden Brown's vision of creating a terrestrial prototype for a Mars city named "Terminus". While backed by Silicon Valley elites including Peter Thiel’s Pronomos Capital, and supported by a "techno-libertarian" circle close to Elon Musk, there is no evidence that Elon Musk or SpaceX is directly investing in or officially involved in the Greenland project.
Key Details on the Project and Connections:
The Vision: Praxis founder Dryden Brown aims to build a city in Greenland—which he has described as a "hardcore" frontier—to act as a testbed for Martian colonization and a, high-tech hub free from conventional regulation.
"Terminus" Connection: Brown has explicitly stated his intention to build a "prototype of Terminus" (Musk's name for his Mars city) in Greenland, even tagging Musk in social media posts about the proposal.
Supportive Circles: The effort is supported by a network of tech investors known as "techno-libertarians," including Peter Thiel, Marc Andreessen, and Ken Howery (a former business partner of Musk and Thiel).
Musk's Alignment: Elon Musk has publicly supported the idea of the U.S. acquiring Greenland, stating in January 2025, "If the people of Greenland want to be part of America, which I hope they do, they would be most welcome!". However, Musk has not formally engaged with the Praxis Greenland project, and reports indicate Thiel has denied direct involvement in Greenland plans.
Investors: Praxis has secured $525 million in financing, with major backers including Paradigm Operations and Pronomos Capital (backed by Peter Thiel).
In summary, the Greenland "freedom city" concept is a project heavily influenced by Musk’s techno-libertarian orbit, but Musk himself is not an investor in the initiative, which seeks to turn his Mars rhetoric into a Greenland-based reality.
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United Fruit in Guatemala, Cuba. ITT in Chile. Many more.
Even today, we own Gitmo -- located inside Cuba.
I've commented previously that the population of Greenland compares to my 'ol county in Pa, which the Republicans have literally bought as long as I can remember.
Again I ask the rhetorical question: Didn't Trump admit that Musk bought Pennsylvania in 2024?
Musk could probably buy the votes and the land for less than Musk could make if Trump reinstated EV subsidies.
However Trump is a narcissistic psychopath. As such he is prone to blame others. Any likely learning would be for Trump’s minions to wake up to the realisation that they might be next. There is always more room under the bus.
The "new" ICE is the old Immigration and Naturalization Service, William. They performed a necessary service whether it was to aid a "new" citizen, or to send one back to his/her home country.
They did not wear camo or bust in doors while carrying weapons of war (or kill humans), as we have now. We need a return to that civility.
These quotes from Germans in the aftermath of WWII highlight how the steady drip of minor affronts to liberty become, over a period of not years but decades, a flood of human rights horrors. When we accede to the "security" concerns of the angriest people, we give them another inch in their relentless march toward total control over everyone.
Exactly Jeffrey, only what took years and decades, has taken months and weeks because of modern information technology.
The longer we wait to resist, the more frutiless the effot to resist.
Sophie Scholl and the White Rose Society only reared it's head in 1942, 9 years after Hitler became chancellor, way too late, they reared their head in 42 and lost it in 43, 8 months after they founded it.
There is a lesson there, that we shouldn't ignore, Hitler could have been stopped in Jan 38, after he was appointed Chancellor.
You're off by 5 years. Hitler took power in 1933, not 1938. He became the president in 1934 after Hindenburg died. His version of the Insurrection Act was issued after the Reichstag Fire which gave him the excuse to take over everything.
I don't think we've yet had the Reichstag Fire. But it's coming. Maybe after the Ds in the new Congress are sworn in, and executed by the SS, I mean, ICE/Proud Boys.
This newsletter's message is extremely important and needs to be heeded. Yesterday I found myself suspended in horrific fascination that lawmakers were heaving signs of relief that border czar aging barroom bouncer bribery-taking thug Tom Homan was replacing Gregory Bovino. A tarantula being replaced with a rattlesnake? How can we possibly get so complacent? What Tom is proposing is not something to be imagined but what is happening in real-time reality in Minneapolis where thousands of citizens gather day and night in sub-zero temperatures to declare their opposition to fascistic tactics. We all need to get out of our comfort zones....
Jonathan V. Last, the Bulwark, Substack, yesterday: “We will need an American Nuremberg”. Recovering Republicans often seem clearer on the threats before us than Democratic “leadership”. We should most certainly heed their warnings, since neither the aforementioned leadership nor the equally feckless corporate media are of any detectable value. Strange bedfellows, perhaps, but disaffected conservatives and committed liberals, while differing on policy, often share a core passion and patriotism. Former Republican Rep. David Jolly is running for FL governor as a Democrat; check out his speech in response to Alex Pretti’s murder on YouTube.
We have got to continue riding the bucking bronco till it expires...
Don't let up Minnesotans and other patriots everywhere - we are more than 60%!
Think about those gangsters still getting paid our tax money - Noem, Miller, Hesketh, and the many others still gorging at the public money-trough, while we are supposed to live on $3 meals, 5 pencils and 2 dolls...
Trump will probably try to change the subject. The murders in Minneapolis didn't work for him. Bomb Iran? Summit with Putin? Zelinsky? Carney? Mess with NAFTA? More Tariffs. Stir up more controversies with NATO. No deep thinking here, I'm trying to think as a angry 12 year old would. Whatever, it will be above the crease crazy, per usual. For him, as long as the subject isn't Epstein Files or Vol II of Jack Smiths report the clown car weaves on from one shit show to another.
Within the comments of another Substack someone repeated an insight they had seen. Seems spot on .. something to the effect of — ‘Replacing Bovine with Homan is like shitting your pants then changing your shirt.’
Thank you for pointing out that the most dangerous moment is when authoritarians appear to compromise.
Two steps forward, one step back. Anyone who believes Trump is a self deluded fool
He lies about everything except what he intends to do. Then you can take his promises and desires to the bank. For instance he hasn't give up on Greenland, he is going to take it, and even the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rutte, has been intimidated
He is remaking America in his own image, and nobody is stopping him, because they believe that the law and elections will. Ye gads, look what he has done so far, he has remade the White House in his Image, even the Capitol building is under his control and sway, he has taken control of the Kennedy Center, the Smithsonian and now he is going to build and Arc de Triump, to celebrate his triumph of taking over America.
And America's response, to shiver in their boots that we might give him an excuse to invoke the Insurrection Act, he doesn't need to, he is achieving his goal, through intimidation. and fear.
Our Corporations, our media, universities, largest law firms have all caved.
There is talk of impeachment, possible if we win the house, but impossible in the senate, unless we get 67 votes, and that will never happen., impossible. Impeachment without removal is a waste of time and money. He was impeached twice, yet there he sits. His numbers are in the toilet and yet the world crawls to him on their knees
Our governors stand up to him for a minute, then he knocks them down and they cave.
The question is how do we stop this runaway train? Law suits, don't make me laugh, public opinion, don't make me laugh, negative polls, don't make me laugh..
Protests, water off a ducks back,
Two steps forward, one step back (maybe sometimes)
He has the personal data, habits, preferences, communications of everyone in the US, and can track everyone who has a cell phone. ICE knows your habits, your schedule, your route of travel, where you eat lunch if you work, that is how they can stop cars and even arrest people on a fire line in the Olympic National Forest, about as remote as you can get.
I am engaged in a discussion with someone who is afraid of Trump using resistance as a Reichstag fire, and invoking the Insurrection act.
News flash, he doesn't need to, he is achieving his goal through persistence, fear and intimidation and he will succeed unless we stand up, take the risk, and resist.
He takes two steps forward, we whine, bitch, kvetch he runs into a temporary obstacle, takes one step backs, pauses for a breath, then takes two steps forward, wash, rinse, repeat.
Good news, Big humilation for Melania, only one ticket sold to her self aggrandizing documentary.
More Good news, WAPO subscriptions and readership have tanked.
Now if only Americans could liberate themselves from cell phones and social media.
On cell phones, you are carrying a NSA spy and tracking device in your purse or pocket.
Yes, you are right. Minneapolis is leading the charge against fascism. Let's hope that all of us can react with the same bravery & fortitude when ICE comes calling in our towns!
I want to know how to find that song. I am not a musician, but I feel like our marches should include some music music and inspiring. I tried to write down the lyrics and I’m stuck on one that I can’t figure out. It’s the line so don’t breathe easy. Don’t call it peace. A quiet tyrant is a.???
Kurt Lewan, Force Field Analysis. I’ve used it in quality improvement activities and organizational change interventions. Chart your objective. Identify any driving forces toward your object and any restraining forces preventing the driving forces from working. Strategize on removing the restraining forces, since adding new driving forces may encounter new unforeseen restraining forces. Rinse and repeat.
I believe this is what much of Project 2025 was/is about. Heritage had four years (while Biden was in office) to do this with what worked and what didn’t in Trump 1.0. They’re still doing it. They’re like the smart dinosaurs in Jurassic Park….”testing the fences….learning.”
As the abomination that is the Trump Reich guns us down, one thing is clear.
40% of us are on board with it. Said 40% get-off on other people's pain and deaths.
Donald has played fast and loose with our mental health for a decade. Note: The 40% were nuts from the outset. The remainder are treading water as he kicks the idea, the concept, the notion of America in the teeth. Repeatedly.
Like his pop, he's Queens scum. And he must go away asap.
Before Trump's First Reich generates its version of the. . . [fill in the blank.]
There has to be a 100% turnout in November to defeat the obstacles that the Republicans have erected. Redistricting, voter caging, voter suppression laws, voter ID, drop box and mail in voting restrictions MAGA election commissions, armed poll watchers, and now a Republican operative bought Dominion Voting machines.
The Democratic party has to use the same tactics the Republicans use, and that is excite the Amygdala, the lizard brain, fear, pump fear, not hope, not look what we have done, but fear, fear drives votes.
People will turn out if they are motivated, and fear motivates.
The Republicans won by using fear of blacks, browns, trans, immigrants, women's equality, queers.
We need to use fear of loss of personal control, power, fear of penury,. Medicare for all is a big seller, if it is sold right, but AHIP will withdraw funding if we push for it.
Are you confident that the "right to vote" will be accomplished by November's election? Without radical changes enacted NOW to undo the voter suppression that has plagued the U.S. how can even 100% turnout result in a change for the better? Who said (something like) - it doesn't matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes.
I agree that is a very dangerous moment, it means they have a plan to get even but the MOST dangerous moment and I hope we reach it, is when they realize they’ve lost control. That’s when it’s an all out hell strategy. It won’t work for them but that’s when they become unhinged.
Thom nicely describes how countries replace governing with ruling. Governing requires cooperation among leaders and collaborative listening to the concerns and needs of the governed in order to make the nation and the economy thrive. Rulers assume that they know best. There is scant need to listen to anybody, even the subordinate leaders they appoint under them to run the day-to-day operation of the country. Congresses and parliaments are just left in place to continue the illusion that the needs of the governed are being considered rather than just the needs of the ruler.
Agreed. Bovino and Noem haven't been fired, they're on a taxpayer supported reprieve until headlines calm down. Meanwhile, ICE's internal memo supporting warrantless home invasions hasn't received the media attention it should. ICE Warrantless entries, meet Stand Your Ground Laws. https://sabrinahaake.substack.com/p/ice-warrantless-entries-meet-stand
After all, we do have millions of people in this country without documentation….
This is the basis of The Other Big Lie (OBL) and the one used to cover any discomfort with the path to fascism. The OBL may be true (I don't know for sure), but the implications of it are definitely not true. Immigration may have glitches and problems, but it is not a crisis. It is not an invasion. There is no problem with undocumented immigrants being in this country -- on the contrary, it's probably a boon to us (absent a tiny percentage of problem people, a smaller percentage than in the general population). The fact that we easily accept this lie is the real problem.
I have conflicted opinions on undocumented and even some documented immigrants.
For Instance those racist Afrikaaners that were recently admitted should be ejected.
The Cubans and Venezuelans who fled to America, were not persecuted, they were in fact the predatory middle class that lived well by exploting the peasants..
The Venezuelans, especially, had no problem until the sanctions levied by the US cut into their lifestyle, then they cleaned out their bank acounts, bought plane tickets to Mexico, showed up fresh scrubbed with designer clothing, kids carrying dolls and soccer balls, and claiming that they walked thousands of miles through dangerous jungles and criminal gangs.Send them back, the Cubanos as well.
Reagan had a bracero program, Mexicans could come in to work the fields and jobs, but had to return at the end of the season,it worked,
To tell the truth, without these undocumented immigrants, houses don't get re reoofed, houses don't get built, gutters don't get cleaned out, yards are not mowed and maintained, nursing homes have to close, house cleaners and nannies are scarce. fruit doesn't get picked, nor does tomatoes., chickens and ducks don't get plucked, sea food is not prepared for market, meat and fowl are not prepared for market.
Approximately 30–50% of the U.S. meatpacking and slaughterhouse workforce consists of immigrants, with some estimates suggesting that foreign-born workers constitute up to 60–90% of the industry in certain states
We still have temporary workers' programs. I heard their appeals for about 20 years.
Trump is the expert on the subject. Uses temporarary visa workers to displace the locals at Mar a Lago and the Doral.
Trump initially was the poster boy for employer sanctions, had to pay a huuge fine, make restitution for using illegals on job sites.
Had we wanted to kill illegal immigration, all we had to do was sanction anyone who employed them.
Many of the Venezuealans and Cubans were wealthy, but not all of them had been overdogs in their home countries. We had special programs for Cubans, in effect granting them special privileges, a bounty to come to the US for more than 50 years.
We benefitted from perhaps the greatest brain drain in history and virtually all educated Cubans and Venezuelans came here.
Yesterday, in my Spanish Lit and Culture Class, I discussed how the greatest modern Cuban painters live in Miami, because Castro et all followed the Soviet model and prohibited avant garde art. Many of the art students when I moved here had learned the craft in jail in Cuba.
Copy that. I do remember the Cuban missile crisis, because I was placed on alert.
I also recall distinctly that the reason Fidel became a problem, is because he ousted the mafia and the Caudillista's, that were exploiting the people, kind of the same thing that Chavez did in Venezuela.
So these mother fuckers used their pull with the government, to come down on Chavez and Castro, thus forcing them into the arms of their enemies.
Castro wasn't a commie, as we think of Stalin and the USSR,but he was for land redistribution, the peasants were virtual slaves, same situation in Venezuela
Using the CIA and mercenaries they tried to overthrow Castro, and Chavez.
Money talks, business interests guide our actions. From United Fruit and the Banana wars in central America, to the overthrow of Mossadegh because he nationalized Iran's oil, to the exploitation of Cuba by the mafia and the wealthy, to Venezuela and now Trump is selling out to Russia and the Arabs
Because money talks in America, Castro and Chavez were forced into the arms of Russia and China.
From a gung ho patriot, I've become a cynic and skeptic. I do not believe my eyes and ears because they are beset with lies and popaganda.
I hold on to one thing though. I swore my oath to the Constitution, not to Trump, not the techbros, not the oil cabal, not to MIC,not to financial institutions, but to the Constiution.
One of our three Batistiano MAGAT House members has broken with Trump on immigration. It took a while, but the big donors, mostly housed in CANF have begun pressuring them.
As far as I'm concerned the Venezuelan operation shows that Trump has been conned by the Batistianos, i.e. Lil' Marco Rubio and the 3 Congressional Amigos here. Whe it got hot, he used Greenland as a distraction. Today the major distration is the economy.
Here's what I told Tomonthebeach -- who worked in the Pentagon -- and is a psychologist
"What sets Trump apart from all prior US presidents is his insight that total dominance can only be achieved if he surrounds himself with psychopathic sycophants who all lie, cheat, steal, and brutalize without remorse - every single one of them. And, every single one of them was approved by an enabling Republican Congress that puts greed for power and dominance above governing for the people who elected them.
I said. IMHO we have come close to this several times. After all, we had a bloody civil war. After WWI, red scare. During the depression, several would be deomogogues emerged. Lucky Lindy. Father Coughlin. When I was in Vietnam, 66-67, we were told there was an ongoing civil war at home. Home, I was part of the occupation of the south. Assasinations. Riots. In 1968 troops in every major city. The scars remain from that in many places, physically and psychologically.
As I've said many times, as someone who was exposed to this mentality, looks like psy ops. Same stuff we did to several foreign countries. Iran. Guatemala. Most of western Europe.
The Krasnov story should be compelling. Trump's first wife's father was a Commie who reported to the Czech equivalent of the KGB. Trump in Moscow in 1987. Mysterious funding. Money laudering? Trump was working on a Moscow project into the 2016 election cycle. His campaign manager had a Russian connection. A convicted foreign agent, pardoned by Krasnov.
Those money boys, co dependents, are NOT ideologues.
I sat up and took notice when the Gun Owners Association,jumped in on Homan and Trump about their statement not to bring a gun to a protest., when virtually all right wing protests are awash in weapons, from Jan th to Amon Bundy
Did I tell you about the night of Tet. I was asleep in myroom in Ap Chien Luouc, when I heard the beat of choppers over my head, and the sound of explosions
I rushed to the roof in my black Pajamas and there just a few feet over my head was a Cobra spewing it's minigun, and grenades, then the spotlight momentarily swept over me, and I realized I was in black pajama's, I ran back to my room and spent the night crouched in a corner. I should have known something was up, that day I saw a bunch of young STRAK young men in the neighborhood, and heard this women who had a little store on the corner, jump joyfully into the arms of a young man, cryying my son.
I knew that her son was VC, as I over heard her once talking to another woman, saying the last thing that she had hear of him was that he was going to Minh Than, that and the three "cousins" of Sgt Canh, who suddenly showed up on Jan 31st,
The hamlet chief (Ap chien luoc means Strategic hamlet), was a friend, he played both sides as practically all did that wanted to survive, but Feb 1, 1968 he saved my life.
What's it like under the bus, Mr. Bovino?
TRump has spent a lifetime throwing people under the bus, so it must be really crowded. Donold has NEVER taken responsibility for any of the things he has screwed-up.
Psychopaths only regret how a decision affects THEM---they do not learn from it. We won the high ground on Minneapolis, for now. The war on decency will morph and move on to some other community in the President's crosshairs. Everything Thom said in this Report tracks.
We need to demand the names of those criminals. That would be the beginning of a full and fair investigation. See you in the streets.
Alis IMHO Bovino wasn't thrown under the bus.
ICE was a functionary civil servant organization, It didn't carry long guns, masks, or bullet proof vests,.
The new ICE was untrained and uninitiated into GESTPO like tactics.
Bovino was the district CBP chief in El Centro, and the Border Patrol uses brute force, even death, because nobody sees them in the desert, they are limited to 100 miles of gthe border.
Bovino was chosen to train and acclimate ICE to violence, he did his job, ICE is trained and now he is sent back to El Centro along with the killers of pretti.
We need to do a lot of things, that will never be done, because we don't have the power..
It is all about power, you either have it, or you are a victim. And power flows from the barrel of a weapon.
The only power anyone has, William, is the power that we give them- OUR power.
“Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure....
As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.”
— Marianne Williamson
Time to take our power back - before it becomes impossible.
How? What is Step 1?
At first, I thought your remarks were ridiculous, but after I read it all, I concluded that you are probably correct. Why would Trump waste an effective enforcement thug? He just needs to move him back behind that curtain where the MSM never peeks.
If there is one thing we should have learned in all of this time, Never take things, especially Trump, at face value. There is always an ulterior motive.
Another thing though he instinctively lies, when he tells you what he is going to do, believe him.
Another thing, once he gets an ideation, he doesn't give up, he does not surrender, he does not back off, he doubles down, if not immediately then eventually.
He said he wasn't going to to take action about Veneuela, as the same time, JSOC was planning and training.
He said that he won't take Greenland by force, but he will take it by other means, and Mark Rutte, Sec Gen of NATO, told NATO, that Europe needs Trump. Goodbye Greenland.
If he doesn't invade, he will buy it with our money, piecemeal, using the farce of the Golden Dome as an excuse, and ofcourse Praxis city Greenland
Praxis is a proposed "Network City-State" in Greenland initiated by Dryden Brown, backed by hundreds of millions in venture capital, including Pronomos Capital. It aims to be a technologically advanced, libertarian city with AI-augmented governance and "Elon-compatible" labor laws. The project focuses on building a, private, high-tech, and rapidly developed community.
In 2025, Elon Musk publicly supported the idea of the United States acquiring Greenland, posting on X: "If the people of Greenland want their territory to join America, we should accept them!"
If interested where his Greenland obsession came from, read the following TL:DR
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Based on recent reports and the details provided, here is the breakdown of Elon Musk's connections to the Praxis "network state" project in Greenland:
No Direct Investment: While Musk is closely linked to the network of individuals pursuing this, he is not listed as a direct investor in the Praxis venture, which is primarily backed by Peter Thiel’s Pronomos Capital [1].
Connection to Founders: Praxis founder Dryden Brown has expressed interest in using the proposed Greenland site to build a prototype of "Terminus," the name Musk has previously proposed for a future city on Mars [1].
Political Alignment: In 2025, Elon Musk publicly supported the idea of the United States acquiring Greenland, posting on X: "If the people of Greenland want their territory to join America, we should accept them!" [1].
Shared Circles: The project is pushed by "techno-libertarian" investors, including Peter Thiel and Ken Howery (a former business partner of Musk and Thiel) [1].
Lack of Corporate Involvement: Despite the connections to his associates, there is no evidence that SpaceX or any of Musk's companies are involved in the Greenland project [1].
In summary, Musk is closely aligned with the individuals and philosophy behind the Greenland initiative but is not an active participant in the Praxis venture itself [1].
Praxis, a "network state" startup focused on creating low-regulation, technology-driven charter cities, is actively exploring establishing a site in Greenland, driven by founder Dryden Brown's vision of creating a terrestrial prototype for a Mars city named "Terminus". While backed by Silicon Valley elites including Peter Thiel’s Pronomos Capital, and supported by a "techno-libertarian" circle close to Elon Musk, there is no evidence that Elon Musk or SpaceX is directly investing in or officially involved in the Greenland project.
Key Details on the Project and Connections:
The Vision: Praxis founder Dryden Brown aims to build a city in Greenland—which he has described as a "hardcore" frontier—to act as a testbed for Martian colonization and a, high-tech hub free from conventional regulation.
"Terminus" Connection: Brown has explicitly stated his intention to build a "prototype of Terminus" (Musk's name for his Mars city) in Greenland, even tagging Musk in social media posts about the proposal.
Supportive Circles: The effort is supported by a network of tech investors known as "techno-libertarians," including Peter Thiel, Marc Andreessen, and Ken Howery (a former business partner of Musk and Thiel).
Musk's Alignment: Elon Musk has publicly supported the idea of the U.S. acquiring Greenland, stating in January 2025, "If the people of Greenland want to be part of America, which I hope they do, they would be most welcome!". However, Musk has not formally engaged with the Praxis Greenland project, and reports indicate Thiel has denied direct involvement in Greenland plans.
Investors: Praxis has secured $525 million in financing, with major backers including Paradigm Operations and Pronomos Capital (backed by Peter Thiel).
In summary, the Greenland "freedom city" concept is a project heavily influenced by Musk’s techno-libertarian orbit, but Musk himself is not an investor in the initiative, which seeks to turn his Mars rhetoric into a Greenland-based reality.
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For me, this is deja vu.
United Fruit in Guatemala, Cuba. ITT in Chile. Many more.
Even today, we own Gitmo -- located inside Cuba.
I've commented previously that the population of Greenland compares to my 'ol county in Pa, which the Republicans have literally bought as long as I can remember.
Again I ask the rhetorical question: Didn't Trump admit that Musk bought Pennsylvania in 2024?
Musk could probably buy the votes and the land for less than Musk could make if Trump reinstated EV subsidies.
However Trump is a narcissistic psychopath. As such he is prone to blame others. Any likely learning would be for Trump’s minions to wake up to the realisation that they might be next. There is always more room under the bus.
The "new" ICE is the old Immigration and Naturalization Service, William. They performed a necessary service whether it was to aid a "new" citizen, or to send one back to his/her home country.
They did not wear camo or bust in doors while carrying weapons of war (or kill humans), as we have now. We need a return to that civility.
These quotes from Germans in the aftermath of WWII highlight how the steady drip of minor affronts to liberty become, over a period of not years but decades, a flood of human rights horrors. When we accede to the "security" concerns of the angriest people, we give them another inch in their relentless march toward total control over everyone.
Exactly Jeffrey, only what took years and decades, has taken months and weeks because of modern information technology.
The longer we wait to resist, the more frutiless the effot to resist.
Sophie Scholl and the White Rose Society only reared it's head in 1942, 9 years after Hitler became chancellor, way too late, they reared their head in 42 and lost it in 43, 8 months after they founded it.
There is a lesson there, that we shouldn't ignore, Hitler could have been stopped in Jan 38, after he was appointed Chancellor.
You're off by 5 years. Hitler took power in 1933, not 1938. He became the president in 1934 after Hindenburg died. His version of the Insurrection Act was issued after the Reichstag Fire which gave him the excuse to take over everything.
I don't think we've yet had the Reichstag Fire. But it's coming. Maybe after the Ds in the new Congress are sworn in, and executed by the SS, I mean, ICE/Proud Boys.
We need to fight. They've overreached and maybe jujitsu can do it.
As I keep sayn' there may be ideologues involved but enough aren't that there's hope we can cut him off before elections are stymied.
We need to pressure Congressional Republicans.
Jan. 30 — ♦️NATIONAL SHUTDOWN, 2nd General Strike - Protest ICE invasions & killings Plus other Vigils …
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/news/national-shutdown-over-ice-killings-in-minnesota-planned-across-us-including-in-ct-on-friday/ar-AA1V7aZP
This newsletter's message is extremely important and needs to be heeded. Yesterday I found myself suspended in horrific fascination that lawmakers were heaving signs of relief that border czar aging barroom bouncer bribery-taking thug Tom Homan was replacing Gregory Bovino. A tarantula being replaced with a rattlesnake? How can we possibly get so complacent? What Tom is proposing is not something to be imagined but what is happening in real-time reality in Minneapolis where thousands of citizens gather day and night in sub-zero temperatures to declare their opposition to fascistic tactics. We all need to get out of our comfort zones....
Jonathan V. Last, the Bulwark, Substack, yesterday: “We will need an American Nuremberg”. Recovering Republicans often seem clearer on the threats before us than Democratic “leadership”. We should most certainly heed their warnings, since neither the aforementioned leadership nor the equally feckless corporate media are of any detectable value. Strange bedfellows, perhaps, but disaffected conservatives and committed liberals, while differing on policy, often share a core passion and patriotism. Former Republican Rep. David Jolly is running for FL governor as a Democrat; check out his speech in response to Alex Pretti’s murder on YouTube.
Nuremberg was only possible because thousands of Americans, Brits, Canadians landed on beaches of Normandy on Jun 6,1944..
There is no Nuremberg without a crushing victory.
And more deaths. Ultimately, it may come down to the military taking their oath to the Constitution seriously.
True, and given the Democrat’s rich history of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, we damn well better get it right this time.
(1) David Jolly's Stirring Speech - "May Alex Pretti's memory be not just a blessing, but a charge" https://share.google/VlX2Hr3A3UhmihhuM
Thanks, MaryPat. As a particularly inept Luddite, I couldn’t figure out how to link that here. Everyone should take a few minutes and watch it.
YES! Everyone should watch this!, Thank You for telling us about the speech, Tom. Wow!
Thanks Thom:
We have got to continue riding the bucking bronco till it expires...
Don't let up Minnesotans and other patriots everywhere - we are more than 60%!
Think about those gangsters still getting paid our tax money - Noem, Miller, Hesketh, and the many others still gorging at the public money-trough, while we are supposed to live on $3 meals, 5 pencils and 2 dolls...
Thanks Gordon. Speaking of taxpayer money, who paid for the gala at the White House heralding Melania's movie? Imagine if Joe and Jill had done that.
Trump will probably try to change the subject. The murders in Minneapolis didn't work for him. Bomb Iran? Summit with Putin? Zelinsky? Carney? Mess with NAFTA? More Tariffs. Stir up more controversies with NATO. No deep thinking here, I'm trying to think as a angry 12 year old would. Whatever, it will be above the crease crazy, per usual. For him, as long as the subject isn't Epstein Files or Vol II of Jack Smiths report the clown car weaves on from one shit show to another.
Within the comments of another Substack someone repeated an insight they had seen. Seems spot on .. something to the effect of — ‘Replacing Bovine with Homan is like shitting your pants then changing your shirt.’
Thank you for pointing out that the most dangerous moment is when authoritarians appear to compromise.
Two steps forward, one step back. Anyone who believes Trump is a self deluded fool
He lies about everything except what he intends to do. Then you can take his promises and desires to the bank. For instance he hasn't give up on Greenland, he is going to take it, and even the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rutte, has been intimidated
He is remaking America in his own image, and nobody is stopping him, because they believe that the law and elections will. Ye gads, look what he has done so far, he has remade the White House in his Image, even the Capitol building is under his control and sway, he has taken control of the Kennedy Center, the Smithsonian and now he is going to build and Arc de Triump, to celebrate his triumph of taking over America.
And America's response, to shiver in their boots that we might give him an excuse to invoke the Insurrection Act, he doesn't need to, he is achieving his goal, through intimidation. and fear.
Our Corporations, our media, universities, largest law firms have all caved.
There is talk of impeachment, possible if we win the house, but impossible in the senate, unless we get 67 votes, and that will never happen., impossible. Impeachment without removal is a waste of time and money. He was impeached twice, yet there he sits. His numbers are in the toilet and yet the world crawls to him on their knees
Our governors stand up to him for a minute, then he knocks them down and they cave.
The question is how do we stop this runaway train? Law suits, don't make me laugh, public opinion, don't make me laugh, negative polls, don't make me laugh..
Protests, water off a ducks back,
Two steps forward, one step back (maybe sometimes)
He has the personal data, habits, preferences, communications of everyone in the US, and can track everyone who has a cell phone. ICE knows your habits, your schedule, your route of travel, where you eat lunch if you work, that is how they can stop cars and even arrest people on a fire line in the Olympic National Forest, about as remote as you can get.
I am engaged in a discussion with someone who is afraid of Trump using resistance as a Reichstag fire, and invoking the Insurrection act.
News flash, he doesn't need to, he is achieving his goal through persistence, fear and intimidation and he will succeed unless we stand up, take the risk, and resist.
He takes two steps forward, we whine, bitch, kvetch he runs into a temporary obstacle, takes one step backs, pauses for a breath, then takes two steps forward, wash, rinse, repeat.
Good news, Big humilation for Melania, only one ticket sold to her self aggrandizing documentary.
More Good news, WAPO subscriptions and readership have tanked.
Now if only Americans could liberate themselves from cell phones and social media.
On cell phones, you are carrying a NSA spy and tracking device in your purse or pocket.
With out cellphones we are also providing a clear target for the paramilitary.
How are we providing a clear target for the paramiliatary if we don't have cell phones.
I fail to see the connection. In fact social media provides he government and paramilitary the ability to track you, ever hear of doxxing?
I was being cynical. Unfortunately, when I typed “out” Mr Nimblefingers meant to type “our”. The reference
being to Alex Pretti. Sorry for my error.
Yes, you are right. Minneapolis is leading the charge against fascism. Let's hope that all of us can react with the same bravery & fortitude when ICE comes calling in our towns!
I want to know how to find that song. I am not a musician, but I feel like our marches should include some music music and inspiring. I tried to write down the lyrics and I’m stuck on one that I can’t figure out. It’s the line so don’t breathe easy. Don’t call it peace. A quiet tyrant is a.???
Can't help you with that one, but Bruce Springsteen said he wrote this one on Saturday:
https://youtu.be/wWKSoxG1K7w?si=s9P_nsM9uOGPx5ch
Kurt Lewan, Force Field Analysis. I’ve used it in quality improvement activities and organizational change interventions. Chart your objective. Identify any driving forces toward your object and any restraining forces preventing the driving forces from working. Strategize on removing the restraining forces, since adding new driving forces may encounter new unforeseen restraining forces. Rinse and repeat.
I believe this is what much of Project 2025 was/is about. Heritage had four years (while Biden was in office) to do this with what worked and what didn’t in Trump 1.0. They’re still doing it. They’re like the smart dinosaurs in Jurassic Park….”testing the fences….learning.”
Thanks Indie, the dinosaur analogy is apt.
As the abomination that is the Trump Reich guns us down, one thing is clear.
40% of us are on board with it. Said 40% get-off on other people's pain and deaths.
Donald has played fast and loose with our mental health for a decade. Note: The 40% were nuts from the outset. The remainder are treading water as he kicks the idea, the concept, the notion of America in the teeth. Repeatedly.
Like his pop, he's Queens scum. And he must go away asap.
Before Trump's First Reich generates its version of the. . . [fill in the blank.]
VOTE for Truth, Justice, and the American Way.
We need superwomen as well as supermen, all ordinary people who do their own individual part to save our democracy.
There has to be a 100% turnout in November to defeat the obstacles that the Republicans have erected. Redistricting, voter caging, voter suppression laws, voter ID, drop box and mail in voting restrictions MAGA election commissions, armed poll watchers, and now a Republican operative bought Dominion Voting machines.
The Democratic party has to use the same tactics the Republicans use, and that is excite the Amygdala, the lizard brain, fear, pump fear, not hope, not look what we have done, but fear, fear drives votes.
People will turn out if they are motivated, and fear motivates.
The Republicans won by using fear of blacks, browns, trans, immigrants, women's equality, queers.
We need to use fear of loss of personal control, power, fear of penury,. Medicare for all is a big seller, if it is sold right, but AHIP will withdraw funding if we push for it.
Fear is a motivator, to be sure. But it's exhausting.
Besides, we've got the news and YouTube to rattle us.
Being shot dead in the head or dead in the back in broad daylight by cowardly ICE should be more than enough motivation for anyone on the fence.
The Reich is a T. Rex, and Dem leadership is squirting the monster with small bottles of lemon juice.
Are you confident that the "right to vote" will be accomplished by November's election? Without radical changes enacted NOW to undo the voter suppression that has plagued the U.S. how can even 100% turnout result in a change for the better? Who said (something like) - it doesn't matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes.
You gotta believe.
I agree that is a very dangerous moment, it means they have a plan to get even but the MOST dangerous moment and I hope we reach it, is when they realize they’ve lost control. That’s when it’s an all out hell strategy. It won’t work for them but that’s when they become unhinged.
Thom nicely describes how countries replace governing with ruling. Governing requires cooperation among leaders and collaborative listening to the concerns and needs of the governed in order to make the nation and the economy thrive. Rulers assume that they know best. There is scant need to listen to anybody, even the subordinate leaders they appoint under them to run the day-to-day operation of the country. Congresses and parliaments are just left in place to continue the illusion that the needs of the governed are being considered rather than just the needs of the ruler.
Agreed. Bovino and Noem haven't been fired, they're on a taxpayer supported reprieve until headlines calm down. Meanwhile, ICE's internal memo supporting warrantless home invasions hasn't received the media attention it should. ICE Warrantless entries, meet Stand Your Ground Laws. https://sabrinahaake.substack.com/p/ice-warrantless-entries-meet-stand
After all, we do have millions of people in this country without documentation….
This is the basis of The Other Big Lie (OBL) and the one used to cover any discomfort with the path to fascism. The OBL may be true (I don't know for sure), but the implications of it are definitely not true. Immigration may have glitches and problems, but it is not a crisis. It is not an invasion. There is no problem with undocumented immigrants being in this country -- on the contrary, it's probably a boon to us (absent a tiny percentage of problem people, a smaller percentage than in the general population). The fact that we easily accept this lie is the real problem.
I have conflicted opinions on undocumented and even some documented immigrants.
For Instance those racist Afrikaaners that were recently admitted should be ejected.
The Cubans and Venezuelans who fled to America, were not persecuted, they were in fact the predatory middle class that lived well by exploting the peasants..
The Venezuelans, especially, had no problem until the sanctions levied by the US cut into their lifestyle, then they cleaned out their bank acounts, bought plane tickets to Mexico, showed up fresh scrubbed with designer clothing, kids carrying dolls and soccer balls, and claiming that they walked thousands of miles through dangerous jungles and criminal gangs.Send them back, the Cubanos as well.
Reagan had a bracero program, Mexicans could come in to work the fields and jobs, but had to return at the end of the season,it worked,
To tell the truth, without these undocumented immigrants, houses don't get re reoofed, houses don't get built, gutters don't get cleaned out, yards are not mowed and maintained, nursing homes have to close, house cleaners and nannies are scarce. fruit doesn't get picked, nor does tomatoes., chickens and ducks don't get plucked, sea food is not prepared for market, meat and fowl are not prepared for market.
Approximately 30–50% of the U.S. meatpacking and slaughterhouse workforce consists of immigrants, with some estimates suggesting that foreign-born workers constitute up to 60–90% of the industry in certain states
Prices go up because of a labor shortage.
We still have temporary workers' programs. I heard their appeals for about 20 years.
Trump is the expert on the subject. Uses temporarary visa workers to displace the locals at Mar a Lago and the Doral.
Trump initially was the poster boy for employer sanctions, had to pay a huuge fine, make restitution for using illegals on job sites.
Had we wanted to kill illegal immigration, all we had to do was sanction anyone who employed them.
Many of the Venezuealans and Cubans were wealthy, but not all of them had been overdogs in their home countries. We had special programs for Cubans, in effect granting them special privileges, a bounty to come to the US for more than 50 years.
We benefitted from perhaps the greatest brain drain in history and virtually all educated Cubans and Venezuelans came here.
Yesterday, in my Spanish Lit and Culture Class, I discussed how the greatest modern Cuban painters live in Miami, because Castro et all followed the Soviet model and prohibited avant garde art. Many of the art students when I moved here had learned the craft in jail in Cuba.
Copy that. I do remember the Cuban missile crisis, because I was placed on alert.
I also recall distinctly that the reason Fidel became a problem, is because he ousted the mafia and the Caudillista's, that were exploiting the people, kind of the same thing that Chavez did in Venezuela.
So these mother fuckers used their pull with the government, to come down on Chavez and Castro, thus forcing them into the arms of their enemies.
Castro wasn't a commie, as we think of Stalin and the USSR,but he was for land redistribution, the peasants were virtual slaves, same situation in Venezuela
Using the CIA and mercenaries they tried to overthrow Castro, and Chavez.
Money talks, business interests guide our actions. From United Fruit and the Banana wars in central America, to the overthrow of Mossadegh because he nationalized Iran's oil, to the exploitation of Cuba by the mafia and the wealthy, to Venezuela and now Trump is selling out to Russia and the Arabs
Because money talks in America, Castro and Chavez were forced into the arms of Russia and China.
From a gung ho patriot, I've become a cynic and skeptic. I do not believe my eyes and ears because they are beset with lies and popaganda.
I hold on to one thing though. I swore my oath to the Constitution, not to Trump, not the techbros, not the oil cabal, not to MIC,not to financial institutions, but to the Constiution.
One of our three Batistiano MAGAT House members has broken with Trump on immigration. It took a while, but the big donors, mostly housed in CANF have begun pressuring them.
I was in ROTC when the Missle Crisis took place. I hold myself out as a scholar on the subject -- and so do many others. https://havanatimes.org/features/breaking-up-with-cuba-book-review/
As far as I'm concerned the Venezuelan operation shows that Trump has been conned by the Batistianos, i.e. Lil' Marco Rubio and the 3 Congressional Amigos here. Whe it got hot, he used Greenland as a distraction. Today the major distration is the economy.
Here's what I told Tomonthebeach -- who worked in the Pentagon -- and is a psychologist
"What sets Trump apart from all prior US presidents is his insight that total dominance can only be achieved if he surrounds himself with psychopathic sycophants who all lie, cheat, steal, and brutalize without remorse - every single one of them. And, every single one of them was approved by an enabling Republican Congress that puts greed for power and dominance above governing for the people who elected them.
I said. IMHO we have come close to this several times. After all, we had a bloody civil war. After WWI, red scare. During the depression, several would be deomogogues emerged. Lucky Lindy. Father Coughlin. When I was in Vietnam, 66-67, we were told there was an ongoing civil war at home. Home, I was part of the occupation of the south. Assasinations. Riots. In 1968 troops in every major city. The scars remain from that in many places, physically and psychologically.
As I've said many times, as someone who was exposed to this mentality, looks like psy ops. Same stuff we did to several foreign countries. Iran. Guatemala. Most of western Europe.
The Krasnov story should be compelling. Trump's first wife's father was a Commie who reported to the Czech equivalent of the KGB. Trump in Moscow in 1987. Mysterious funding. Money laudering? Trump was working on a Moscow project into the 2016 election cycle. His campaign manager had a Russian connection. A convicted foreign agent, pardoned by Krasnov.
Those money boys, co dependents, are NOT ideologues.
I'm half kidding, but the antidote for most MAGA:
1. Realization that Trump hates dogs.
2. ICE opposes the 2nd Amendment.
I sat up and took notice when the Gun Owners Association,jumped in on Homan and Trump about their statement not to bring a gun to a protest., when virtually all right wing protests are awash in weapons, from Jan th to Amon Bundy
Did I tell you about the night of Tet. I was asleep in myroom in Ap Chien Luouc, when I heard the beat of choppers over my head, and the sound of explosions
I rushed to the roof in my black Pajamas and there just a few feet over my head was a Cobra spewing it's minigun, and grenades, then the spotlight momentarily swept over me, and I realized I was in black pajama's, I ran back to my room and spent the night crouched in a corner. I should have known something was up, that day I saw a bunch of young STRAK young men in the neighborhood, and heard this women who had a little store on the corner, jump joyfully into the arms of a young man, cryying my son.
I knew that her son was VC, as I over heard her once talking to another woman, saying the last thing that she had hear of him was that he was going to Minh Than, that and the three "cousins" of Sgt Canh, who suddenly showed up on Jan 31st,
The hamlet chief (Ap chien luoc means Strategic hamlet), was a friend, he played both sides as practically all did that wanted to survive, but Feb 1, 1968 he saved my life.
On or about that date, we were setting up landing zones, were probably on Cedar Falls, and were overun near French Fort, Tay Ninh province.
I was on guard duty.....