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Deepak Puri's avatar

Bluster is cheap. American lives and bombs aren’t. How much did the bombs Trump dropped on Iran cost? Why do Americans have to sacrifice their Medicare, Social Security and healthcare to fund Trump's war on Iran and make Pentagon profiteers like Raytheon richer?

https://thedemlabs.org/2025/06/22/trump-bombs-iran-netanyahu-bunker-buster-bombs-tomahawk-missiles-pentagon-profiteers/

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

Flash

Trump Announces Ceasefire Deal Between Israel And Iran By Anna Commander Newsweek

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/article309264885.html#storylink=cpy

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Rohn Kenyatta's avatar

Smitty is dumber than he thinks I thought he was and has accomplished three things:

1. He has rallied the Iranian people.

2. He has started a global arms race because now everyone, the worlds non-white majority, knows that without a deterrent the "US", and its land-based aircraft carrier known as Israel, will attack you and steal your stuff (frankly the world should have known that long ago). The only thing that the European understands is violence. Period.

3. He has made the death of Amerikans, at home and abroad, a certainty.

Congratulations Smitty, you orange, spray painted, racist dimwit.

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Terrance Ó Domhnaill's avatar

It's time for a rebellion. We the people need to take back our government from these politicians and authoritarians before the damage to our democracy is so severe, we can't come back from it. Trump and his crew need to go and a new government installed. This includes Mike Johnson and his rabid followers.

Not that I think Iran will do anything emotionally stupid but they will be retaliating soon once they have their ducks in a row. The U.S. needs to get ready as, despite all of the advanced notice and preparations being made, the body bags will be returning home soon from the middle east.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

Over the weekend, Senate parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough ruled that.Section 70302 of the Big Crappy bill runs afoul of the Byrd Rule and must be taken out of the package to allow it to pass with a simple majority vote on a special procedural fast track.

Essentially, Section 70302 would have made it difficult for federal judges to compel compliance from government employees by holding them in contempt of court for ignoring judicial rulings, especially if no security bond was required when the initial court order was issued.

A GOP attempt to authorize states to conduct immigration enforcement was also deemed irrelevant to the budget.

She also ruled against language in the bill that would increase the Federal Employees Retirement Systems contribution rate for new civil servants if they do not agree to give up civil service protections to become at-will employees.

Additionally, she advised against a section of the bill that would allow the executive branch to reorganize federal government agencies — or eliminate whole agencies — without congressional oversight.

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Thune is under tremendous pressure. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5360488-parliamentarian-rules-bill-trump-agenda/

House Republicans in blue states are extremely vulnerable. https://www.house.gov/representatives

Where I live, we have 3 Cuban American Republican House members under tremedous pressure. To influence them plese contact the Cuban American National Foudation, https://www.canf.org/get-involved/contact-us

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Terrance Ó Domhnaill's avatar

The rebellion is starting. This shows that people are starting to pay more attention. Now we just need to kick start this some more to get more people to pay attention and do more until these corrupt politicians are finally gone.

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William Farrar's avatar

Resistance, sabotage, non compliance those are our only possible tools at this moment. A word of caution though.

In response to 9/11 the Adminisration dusted off a piece of legislation formulated during the Clinton admnistration, Called the PATRIOT act. This act authorized the construction of a data center, that can screen and sniff all electronic communications. It is huge and located in Bluffdale, AZ. A major proviso (which is being ignored for sure) is that it could only sniff international communications, now with the capabilities of AI you can be assured that all communications, including this response, is being monitored.

For that reason al Qaeda went analog, and I mean hand writtien messages, even carrier pigeons and motorcycle messages. Hezbollah tried analog with pagers and walkie talkes.

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William Farrar's avatar

How did the Parliamentarian rule on this little gem in the BBB.?

— found within Section 43201(c) of the House reconciliation bill — would impose a 10-year ban on the enforcement of all state and local laws that regulate artificial intelligence (AI), including rules for AI’s use in political campaigns and elections.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

Not yet.....

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William Farrar's avatar

Then if she hasn't by now, then she won't.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

There you go again....

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William Farrar's avatar

And? I am not a person on the ocean climbing to a straw and hope that a ship will appear over the horizon. I am a fighter and a street fighter, I had to be to survive in a project.

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return to normalcy's avatar

Well, Mz. McDonough is about to have a "mop" of insults dumped on her for not being MAGA! How dare she question the Magats!

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William Farrar's avatar

The only way to depose the regime is through revolution, and that means that there will be violence and people will get killed. Americans are soft and spoiled and don't have the stomach for sacrifice. We parade, protest and vote.

The way to stop ICE raids, is that people from a phalanx, many rows deep and stand in front of Ice and block access, wear gas masks or wet bandannas over the face and welders googles over the eyes, front row ranks carry home made shields.

Actually organization and formation along the lines of a Roman Cohort, including a testudo would stymie them, no stones, bottles or molotov cocktails, just dogged resistance.

I watched Jacob Soboroff, NBC reporter, standing on the steps of a government building in LA, stepping back as an HSI agent told me to get off the steps of a public building and he meekly complied, public, tax payer paid space mind you, there was no violence, thus no pretense to exert federal authority.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

A few Congressional Republicans can destroy Trump's agenda.

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William Farrar's avatar

Yep, but will they? Have they?

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Terrance Ó Domhnaill's avatar

I concur. Military tactics will have to be deployed to push back against militarized police forces and even federalized military units, should they decide to do more than be part of a defensive perimeter around federal buildings.

The problem with that, is most civilians are cowards at heart. They'll run at the first sign of military aggression. Until that changes, any ideas of a rebellion are just words for now.

As far as the AI scrapers are concerned, I'm aware but I don't care anymore. Let them come and get me. I can fort up in my house for a little bit while I call a lawyer to help me fight for my constitutional rights to free speech. We haven't lost that right yet but I'm watching things closely. So far, it's just the immigrants and foreign students who've lost their constitutional rights. When they start coming for people like me, then we really do have a rebellion taking place.

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William Farrar's avatar

About forting up in your house, Give a thought to Robert Matthews, who in 1985 forted up in a friends house on Whidby Island, WA and the FBI burned it to the ground, Gordon Kahl in the Dakotas, Waco, Ruby Ridge.

I am not defending those right wingers, but if that is what happens when the government and FBI are manned and run by "moderates", then consider what it is like when manned, staffed, run by these racist, theocratic right wing extremists.

Why wait til they come for you? Pastor Niemollers lament.

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Terrance Ó Domhnaill's avatar

Ohh, I don't plan on waiting for them to come after me like that. I already have a plan to bug out if I get wind of them coming after me. I agree, forting up in my house that they can breach the door on or just burn it down is a bad idea. I have a plan that involves fighting back from a more defensible place. I've had lots of practice in my younger days of setting up defensible places in harsh environments. I've traveled extensively across north America so I know of a few places I can hide and still support a rebellion.

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Robert Herreshoff's avatar

And those parades have been 2 hours long and, at least the ones I've been in, have consisted of people old enough to have protested Vietnam. A nonviolent and persistent presence on the streets coupled with a general strike, or at the least one targeting critical infrastructure and supply chains, has a chance of stopping the Machine, We may not have the stomach for it now but wait a few months or a year or two for Trump's policies to "trickle down" and people are going to be way more willing to risk confronting tyranny. We don't have the stomach now but wait until those stomachs are empty and growling.

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Tom Halstead's avatar

We have announced to the world that we cannot be trusted and that we prefer to go it alone. Any nation willing to elect a Tr*mp TWICE is obviously irredeemably corrupt. MAGA: Morons Are Governing America.

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David's avatar

Tom,so true.

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Tomonthebeach's avatar

Not only that, if you want to be our friend, we are for sale to the highest bidder - just pay up!

Jerking the EU nations around demanding that a larger percentage of their GDP must go to NATO or we (NATO) will not rescue them from our president's Russian friend and fellow megalomaniac's hegemony.

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Rohn Kenyatta's avatar

Heh, heh.

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alis's avatar

Trump at play or in play

Check out what Putin said about Trump at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum presser. He seemed erratic to me. It was as if he understood TRump and wanted to talk to him. Did he just throw the Ayatollah under the bus? The plot thickens.

There is no end to the fu*kery with the Psychopath In Chief. He told the media he would decide seconds before and that is exactly how it works with him. He decides from his gut with no experts involved. Whether Bibi started this war with Iran to force TRump's hand or actually planned it with him is yet to be proven. The double-cross of the timetable for Iran was interesting, but it just makes Donald and the USA look like jerks on the world stage.

Iran likely moved their stuff weeks ago. They will probably be offered a new "lend a nuke" solution. Anyway you look at it, TRump will always put us in the gravest danger he can. Now we get to worry about that and revenge killings anywhere we are in the world.

Our President hates America---no wonder Putin can't wait to have a "perfect" call with him! See you in the streets.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

Civil war in Iran?

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

Vance, Rubio deny that we seek regime change.

But Trump is now saying otherwise.

According to several sources, there is an ongoing coup. According to Tousi, most of the Iranian general staff has been killed and their successors are pledging support to the crown prince in exile and he is asking Trump for help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCjJdkOqhTg

Tousi TV. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjJec0wv1EUomjrBNt1xCTA

From inside Iran. They had a democracy. 50% of the population, women, object to Sharia. They have several large minority groups that oppose the national government. 8 to 12 million Kurds in Iran, making them the third-largest ethnic group in the country after Persians and Azerbaijanis, are alligned with Kurds in Iraq.

May 5-8 million Sunni.

Prior to the 1979 Islamic Revolution, there were approximately 200,000 Assyrians in Iran, according to the Assyrian Policy Institute. Many Assyrians left the country after the revolution, with the majority settling in the United States, and they support regime change.

There are approximately 300,000 people of Persian descent in Israel. While most of this community speaks Persian (Farsi), it's important to note that some also speak Judeo-Persian languages. The exact number of Farsi speakers within this community isn't specified, but it's a significant portion of the overall population. If there is intelligence and a fifth column they are probably the source.

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Jack Carter's avatar

Trump proves everyday that God makes that he is a real cunt and should be erased from the face of that planet (add a good bunch of gop, maga and corrupt scotus please. The quicker the better

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Paula Dunn's avatar

Hello Congress?

❣️ Pass- National Security Powers Act?

❣️ Courage to tank the Big Bad Bill?

❣️ Restore democratic institutional expertise & trust?

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

Right and the Iranian foreign minister is in Russia today, asking for nukes. If Russia wants NATO and other western powers to support attacks on Iran, this would be the way to do it.

Got to cut through the BS. China is building Thorium plants. The ONLY reason to use uranium in 2025 is to produce plutonium. If I were doing deals, I'd offer thorium technology in exchange for uranium projects. https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/thoriums-long-term-potential-in-nuclear-energy-new-iaea-analysis#:~:text=Thorium%20is%20a%20by%2Dproduct,as%20great%20as%20for%20uranium.

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gerald f dobbertin's avatar

Mr. Solomon, the thorium, and other types of reactors were first designed in American laboratories since the 1940s. About 20 or 30 years ago the Chinese government was given permission by the U.S. to send engineers to the Argonne lab. and other labs., in order to learn this American-developed technology. How ironic that now they are preparing to sell small almost portable reactors to other countries. The U.S. missed this wonderful opportunity. Countries are already lining up to buy those reactors from the Chinese.

The thorium design, and others were discouraged by that megalomaniac Hyman Rickover, the "Father of the nuclear navy." He was interested in developing only the kind of reactor which would, according to the standards of his time, be suitable for submarines and surface ships. He went out of his way to destroy the careers of any engineers who were in favor of the U.S. developing alternative designs. He was afraid resources devoted to those alternative designs would hamper development of "his atomic navy." Perhaps the world should thank those Chinese engineers. Their new reactors have the potential to supply the world with safe, non-polluting, abundant energy for 10,000 years.

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Mick's avatar

I said this last week. Tanking everywhere, no where to run or hide. Putin has played this ding dong like a fiddle. Parnas said Putin had moved most all stocks of enrichment out of Iran weeks ago. The facilities were empty. We stopped supplying Ukraine, so Putin needs another 'murkan proxy war after Gaza draining its very spread out reserves. Iran's oil contribution is miniscule, but shut down Hormuz and it gives every FF corp. in the world an excuse to raise gas/diesel through the roof. TFG is holding its genitalia in a teaspoon, and all it can do is rage and lash out and blow smoke up other peoples' asses. The war oligarchy and the oil oligarchy are siphoning the worn down treasury. Follow the Money!!!!! Right now, 50% of 'murka has 2.5% of the wealth. The oligarch plan is to take that too, and then just let them die, right Joni? The old maga color guard is freaking out. Only the rabid evangelicals like this stuff, cuz it makes their illicit sex orgies just before rapture a really good warmup for the big ONE. In my 76 years I have Never witnessed such a shitshow inside a clusterf^^k. Mammon is the Only GOD. Follow the Money, but keep yours under your pillow, cuz theyz a'comin' fer it. TFG is road kill.

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Carol A. Heasley's avatar

I love how you use language to describe these situations. - Just like I love Rohn Kenyatta's way with words. Deep satire.

I am certain Trump's military advisors told him that Putin moved most of the enrichment stock out of Iran weeks ago. All for show. Or dumber than he looks. This is, as Thomm so aptly reports, George W. Bush's reason for going to war in Iraq for no legitimate, sane reason at all.

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Barry J Kaufman DO's avatar

You're precious Thom really. What were you saying when Kamala Harris was basing the end of her nightmarish campaign on stoking war with Iran? Did you object to the DNC platform containing language calling Trump's assassination of Iran's top general "feckless" while it pushed for more aggressive action against Iran? Of course not. did you utter a critical word against Biden's aiding and abetting Netanyahu ina genocide? Of course not. So your audience capture party over people punditry is part of the problem. Perhaps if you and other faux progressive pundits with large audiences had pushed back against the Democrats' warmongering we wouldn't be in this position. https://barryjkaufmando.substack.com/p/kamala-harris-is-going-to-blow-up

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William Farrar's avatar

There you go again, Putins dog, Boris. Get a fucking clue asswipe, Harris and Biden are not president. Of course you side with Iran, after all Iran is providing your employer Putin with drones and missiles.

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gerald f dobbertin's avatar

Excellent Mr. Kaufman. Good comment. Everyone should read your blogs.

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gerald f dobbertin's avatar

Mr. Hartmann, Starting a war in order to increase domestic support is right out of the advice Machiavelli gave in THE PRINCE almost six centuries ago. It is true that men with weak egos and empty intelligence are likely to use a war to rally their support among the public as George W Bush did after 911 and Trump just did. But that is not the basic reason for war. The basic reason since the ancient Hittites, ancient Persians, ancient Greeks, and ancient Romans has been to gain access to Raw materials, cheap labor and markets for goods. The same is abundantly clear today. The difference between today's American wars and those ancient wars is that the U.S.A. is the first nation in history to attempt to take control of literally the entire planetary economy.

The main, but not only, raw materials in this case are petroleum, yellow cake uranium, rare earth minerals, and land and potable water. Cheap labor is obvious in the neoliberal relocation of industry from the continental U.S. to countries with cheap, even slave, labor. The market is the entire planet. Breathtaking in conception.

Truman began the dangerous slide into dictatorship which now faces us with his undeclared war on the Korean people which he called a "Police Action" and the Congress let him get away with it. The very fact that we now talk about "congressional approval" of war as spelled out in various federal statutes instead of the required declaration of war by congress, as spelled out in the Constitution, is a demonstration of how the uncontrolled military industrial complex has gradually taken over the federal government.

Bear in mind that every president since the end of WWll has sent American soldiers into combat. Not just trump, not just Republicans. Only one president during that period from WWll until now has refused to publicly declare that it is official policy to put "all options" on the table when dealing with obstinate opponents. "All options" meant the threat of nuclear attack by the U.S. That man was Jimmy Carter. The most morally straight president in my lifetime. A genuine Christian, in the best sense of the word.

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Randy S. Eisenberg's avatar

Not to pick nits, but the DEA has had their list of what drugs we’re taking for years, it’s called the prescription drug monitoring program, in CA CURES. (The irony of that name is not amusing.) Providers are on the list too and have been seeing warnings about what they can and cannot prescribe. Basically threatening their careers. Pharmacists; whole chains.

And enforcing it more than ever. Pharmacists on their own change prescriptions without care, consultation or explanation. This literally, personally hurts more than you’d think.

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William Politt's avatar

If JFK were to miraculously return from the dead, he would look at Congress, leadership and rank & file, and write a new book: 'Profiles in Courage?'

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

Don't give QAnon any ideas.

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Robert Herreshoff's avatar

Ideas just confuse them.

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Richard Kiefer's avatar

Have Iranians always hated America and wished (and planned) for its destruction? How would we respond if some foreign country managed to replace our duly elected leader with their stooge, as we did to Iran 1953, when we installed the Shah? Even the Republicans feared Russia for that reason, but that was long ago (pre-Trump.) Maybe we should feel that same way about Russia now, but somehow, their stooge has managed their gradual takeover of our government with sickening complacency.

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Francis Bulbulian's avatar

A very important article starting with a quote from Shakespeare......"Cry “Havoc!” and let slip the dogs of war. — Mark Anthony in Shakespeare’s Julius Ceasar"

This article is a short history course on why leaders start war to benefit themselves. Well written and supported with historical evidence.

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Rhana Bazzini's avatar

Love Thom Hartmann. A dedicated follower. The reason I'm writing this is, admittedly, a bit bizarre. At 92 I'm still in good health and fortunate to still be active. If you're really curious you may Google me. I follow David Sirota, Chris Hedges, Robert Reich. That gives you an idea where I'm coming from. I also follow PoliticusUSA. Something weird happens every time I try to comment. They make you check your email for a number. Which I do. Write it down but every time I enter it it says it's wrong. I've lost count of how many times this has happened. Yes, I'm old. Tech confuses me but........really???? Just venting. You have more important things to deal with. Just wanted to see how easy it is to comment here.

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