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Tomonthebeach's avatar

If Rogan accepts the Trump Epstein gaslight interview challenge, I hope he will read Thom's post well in advance.

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Chris Brodin's avatar

Who would have thought that we would root for Rogan? He is now between a rock and a hard place. This will be interesting.

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Perry Lundon's avatar

It is a sad time in the history of the United States of America that the likes of Joe Rogan have a significant role in determining whether democracy survives or crumbles under the tyrannical rule of Dictator Donny. Always remember that money, power, and greed are the primary drivers behind everything Dictator Donny does and orchestrates. There is no "Make America Great Again" driving Dictator Donny, other than it being a good slogan. Joe Rogan has a chance to help preserve what is left of our fragile democratic republic or support the dark side, further their control of government at the detriment of society. Joe Rogan is going to be the savior. Heaven help us all.

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William Farrar's avatar

Joe Rogan is reflective of the public, just like Rush Limbaugh was, just as Fox News is.

Just as Trump is. We are the outliers. , We are also in our own bubble, unfortunately.

Ours is a universe of bubbles

Texas Lt Governor said yesterday that Texas is a red state, and they deserve more representation.

No one has called him out in the corporate media, because Texas is not a red state, there are 8 million Democrats and 6 million Republicans, but gerrymandering has neutered the Democratic vote, and they seek to perform sexual reassignment surgery on the whole state.

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alis's avatar
Aug 7Edited

On the way to the forum.....

Was that meeting held to HELP Caesar, oh sorry, I mean Trump? Or were there other discussions? I'd rather hear that tape than the crap they recorded for Maxwell and the Deputy AG.

It pains me to think that anything is in the dubious hands of that a-hole, but it is likely the strategy concerning Rogan WAS the meeting.

This to me is one more indication that they are FRESH OUT of strategy. This brain trust cannot control TRump, his current lies, nor his dastardly child trafficking past. Other people are platforming the victims. Senator Wyden is chasing the money transfers. Investigative reporters know this is better than Watergate, and they are all up in it.

Et Tu Joe is an interesting question, but I say let's not clutch our pearls. See you in the streets.

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Gloria J. Maloney's avatar

Kyle Kulinaki's podcast regularly critiques Rogan's podcast and points out his failings and biases. I'm eager to hear Kyle's and Thom's take on the interview. Maxwell's Fed resort prison allows inmates to train service dogs but they aren't allowing Maxwell to participate in the program. What do you think they're afraid she will do to the puppies?

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Mariantoon's avatar

I watch Kyle Kulinski too. Secular Talk on YouTube. Kyle has critiqued Joe Rogan often. I'm glad to hear his take bc Joe Rogan was a fav of my millennial son. I tried to listen to Rogan podcast with my son and wanted to argue so I just didn't keep listening. When Joe Rogan endorsed Felon 47 it was too much. I think for my son too bc he is not in favor of what is happening with our government now, seeing the light.

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alis's avatar
Aug 7Edited

Kyle and Krystal are great. You just have to turn down the volume when he gets going.

Hitler was very proud of his dog, but it is just an ownership thing with psychos, it's not love. Unfortunately he used "Blondi" to test out their cyanide capsules. They better not let her near those pups

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

Just watched Thom on Malcolm Nance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzeWxbGcVfM

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alis's avatar

Exactly! TRump is a disorganized criminal psychopath surrounded by looters. He has brought us Russia Russia Russia---only Putin is an organized psychopath.

Writer Zev Shalev has investigated the Epstein money for 10 years. He knows the Russian plan was to use our own laws to break us financially. Jeffrey had a formula, and I'll bet it was given to him. Wash-rinse-repeat with every crook they could find, including TRump. Bankruptcy and a fire sale.

The network of reporters, researchers, and podcasters keeps growing and connecting. They are cooperating, not competing.

Called Senator Wyden's number to see if they knew Zev and his work. I got a no from the DC office. Now I'm going to call the one in Portland. Thanks Daniel.

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alis's avatar

Well my bad or theirs, they cancelled the Vance meeting and then lied later today that it was fake news.

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This Woman Votes's avatar

Joe Rogan is not a truth-teller; he’s a vibe peddler with a podcast empire built on bro-science, trauma porn, and the algorithmic flatulence of rage-clicks. He’s the trust-fund Socrates for dudes who think ivermectin is a food group and that yelling "just asking questions" makes them intellectual dissidents. If this roided-up Muppet becomes Trump’s fixer, it won’t be a pivot; it’ll be the final form of a man who was always allergic to accountability but addicted to proximity to power.

I'll say it louder for the protein-pilled in the back: Joe Rogan is not “outside the system.” He is the system. A walking, talking, MMA-kickin’ gateway drug to fascist normalization, dressed up in UFC-branded populism. And now, with the Epstein files looking more like a low-end Google Doc scrubbed by Mar-a-Lago interns, the administration is licking its lips at the chance to slide its lies right into Joe's supple soundproofed studio.

Trumpworld knows what they’re doing. They want the red-pilled trust vacuum filled with something that sounds rebellious but won’t question power. Enter Joe Rogan, a man who once platformed Alex Jones and Jordan fucking Peterson, but thinks “asking where the client list is” counts as journalism.

If Rogan goes through with this “exclusive truth-telling interview” and doesn’t drag Todd Blanche’s smirking DOJ-fed ass across the coals for every redacted page, every vanished name, every trafficked girl erased from public memory, then he’s not just part of the machine. He is the fucking oil.

The Epstein files were supposed to burn the swamp to the ground, not get folded neatly into Trump’s third-term PR packet.

If Joe Rogan had any of the balls he’s constantly accusing others of lacking, he’d hand the mic to the victims. He’d bring out the raw court docs. He’d refuse to be another soft-serve infotainment shill for a regime that’s literally laundering child rape under the guise of “nothing to see here.”

But I won’t hold my breath.

Because Joe’s whole schtick, that he’s “one of the guys,” is a lie. He’s a millionaire apologist who wraps conspiracy in curiosity, then pretends like he’s just confused. It’s not confusion, babe. It’s complicity.

Rogan isn’t being pulled into power. He’s bathing in it. Shirtless. In a sauna. With Elon.

And if he chooses Trump’s cover-up over the truth? Then he’s not just a podcaster. He’s state propaganda in a Snapback.

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Indie's avatar

I recall Rogan from News Radio. He was also a sideline announcer and hat other gigs in front of the camera. He’s an actor. A college dropout. Why is it the left has people like Rachel Maddow, a Rhodes Scholar and the MAGA right had/has people like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Donald Trump? They’re good at performing on camera and doing what performers do…lying on camera (just like Reagan did). I don’t listen to conspiracy theorists like Rogan or Info Wars. I know they are popular and make a lot of money. So was Stormy Daniels.

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J. Newman's avatar

While I understand the premise of your commentary, but...Joe Rogan an independent? Giving a voice to racists doesn't make you an independent, just someone who wants to widen your audience and therefore your profits.

But it is quite amazing to see that for a moment at least, he railed against Trump!

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Jon Notabot's avatar

This is THE question:

"So now the real question becomes: Will Joe Rogan help or harm democracy?"

My answer is, unfortunately, harm. I say this because Joe Rogan has only ever pursued money and power. He is supremely charismatic to younger men - far more so than Donald Trump. And when you look at Rogan's full body of work only one thing is clear - he has amassed an enormous cult following and an enormous mountain of money as a result. He is in pursuit of treasure, not truth - no matter how well he plays the part of a benign advocate for reasonable inquiry. Rogan is ultimately driven by the same psychological fragility that festers within the worst names of our time.

After all, when asked if he could become the first billionaire podcaster he stated "I want that 'B'.."

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CARLA M LA ROSA's avatar

This probably explains the rapid turn-around by Charlie Kirk, first demanding release of the files and then suddenly saying he "trusts" this government so won't mention Epstein anymore. Seriously?!? Does anyone know if he actually stopped talking about Epstein?

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Sam Bahour's avatar

Amazingly creative song 🎵 ...actually, along with your always spot on analysis these songs are prime time material!

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Carl Selfe's avatar

The time is now. The line is here. Ours is a job to do. From New York Harbor, we heard the unarmed but alarmed Lady Liberty’s clarion call. I made us 100 protest signs, here. Atop the U.S. Capitol Building Lady Freedom heard her. It is Lady Freedom that holds this Nation’s sword .She pulled it, dismounting to lead us to the streets. They both pointed out clear ways without bloodshed: boycott and gerrymander. Yes, we can, Cesar, Sí se puede. Rise!

https://hotbuttons.substack.com/p/tone-telling-terror?r=3m1bs

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Rowland Scherman's avatar

Who is Joe Rogan?

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Gordon Berry's avatar

Correct response!!

Hartmann knows Joe Rogan is only out for himself as should we all.

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Clayton James Conway's avatar

Parasites always consider life as a game of winners and mostly losers. Parasites on Thethe high side have the tools necessary to do the work themselves. They just rather steal than bother with the work. They are bums. Soon everyone is going to be able to see who the bums are. The fakers are going to surprise a lot of people. This will fundamentally change society.

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Feldman's avatar

Another one bites the dust?

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Sir Okie Doke's avatar

Yo! Joe-wee!!!

To Shill or not to Shill. THAT is the question.

Are you a $ 250,000,000 neo-conservative punk* like Bill Mahr, or a man?

*Rogan's contract w/ Spotify, signed in 2024, is worth up to $250 million.

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Terry's avatar

"Let’s not forget: Rogan’s show has become the most powerful media platform in America. It bypasses traditional scrutiny. " ~Author

Sorry, but I listened to Rogan a couple times, and he's a sanitized version of Alex Jones or Rush Limbaugh.

Come on people, he's a nincompoop. A moron who spreads conspiracy crap.

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Christian Gardinier's avatar

Will Joe Rogan become Trump’s fixer-in-chief? $5.00 says yes. Rogan is a -------.

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