I think Bernie missed a generation. We don't have a labor class. We have mostly a "gig" economy. Most people under the age of 50 have never had a steady job. Manufacturing, the golden goose, was slaughtered and the good jobs went to foreign countries or were automated.
Of the 23% of us in the middle class, most have acquired skills that a…
I think Bernie missed a generation. We don't have a labor class. We have mostly a "gig" economy. Most people under the age of 50 have never had a steady job. Manufacturing, the golden goose, was slaughtered and the good jobs went to foreign countries or were automated.
Of the 23% of us in the middle class, most have acquired skills that are transferrable to several different jobs and occupations. I spent several years listening to vocational testimony. Many skills become obsolete...displaced by technology. Society has progressed at the expense of manual labor.
As I've been saying, IMHO we didn't lose to Trump on the economy. That's just a pretext. We lost to psy ops that targeted the "other" to visceral, not rational voters. Most voted to screw themselves economically and physically.
The Democrats did lose on the economy. They were too afraid of losing the money of corporate donors to tell the truth about the economic suffering of the majority or offer what could really help make people's lives more secure and happier. The party should change the name to the Democratic Labor Party and be that.
Democrats did not create the inflation. If the cost of items is an issue, lay the blame on those who set prices, speculate in commodity markets, permitted unscrupulous add ons. etc. I've explained previously how Trump set the stage for high prices in the energy sector, which is like a tax.
Democrats gave us the lowest unemployment rate in modern history. Gave us the highest GDP. Compared to other industrialized countries, we are first in practically every measure. That includes inflation.
We lost because we are "the other." On a state level labor issues prevailed in even some red states. Check out Missouri. Requires most employers to provide paid sick leave. The base pay for workers increases from $12.30 an hour to $13.75 an hour on Jan. 1, 2025, and to $15 an hour in January 2026. Requires employers with 15 or more workers to provide one hour of paid sick time for every 30 hours worked.
Abortion rights won in 7 states. Although it received a plurality in Florida, it did not get 60% that would amend our state constitution.
Many women who voted for abortion rights, ironically voted for Trump.
Like a stretched rubber band reverberating, the economy exploded after the COVID epidemic, quickly heating up inflation. Other major factors outside Democrat's control also exacerbated inflation to a significant degree, like Trump's egregious mishandling of the pandemic, making the economic impact much worse, Putin's invasion of Ukraine, creating uncertainty in the oil markets, and supply-chain disruptions when the world economy was largely shut down during the pandemic.
Biden's policies undeniably got the economy back on the right track, which eventually brought average inflation down to historically reasonable levels after an initial surge. Our economy is now the best in the world, even though gas, housing, and food prices are still too high, which Harris's proposed policies were laser-focused on getting back under control. Somehow, big corporate media seemed to mostly ignore that fact. And remember, wages have also risen considerably during Biden's administration, which mitigates the effects of inflation. People tend to forget that in their grossly misinformed narrative that Democrats are bad for the economy.
Sure, people certainly FEEL the effects of high food, gas, and housing prices. But "greedflation" is largely responsible — a phenomenon of excessive profit-taking by titans of industry, who, by the way, normally support Republicans and their despicable lies. But people THINK the economy is bad because that is what their Republican, lying, right-wing media sources have told them to think.
In actuality, Democrats have handed Republicans the gift of a robust economy, the envy of the world. (Thank you!) Now, we'll see what Trump and his lickspittle cronies will do with it. Hahahahaha...
Deepspace I am with Daniel above. The economy is just the excuse, as Daniel said the reall issue was hate, that is why the voters voted progressive then voted for Trump
Hate stems from fear. The fear is loss of the masculine imperative. Power over women. There are many women, maybe most, that perceive the man as their protector and provider. That was Trump's appeal to women when he said I am your protector and they voted for himwill voting for abortion.
The women who read and comment on Thom Hartman's substck and Robert Reich's are actually in the minority., as are the men who are not threatened with female empowerment.
I don't disagree; fear begets hate begets anger begets misogyny, xenophobia, racism, religeous bigotry, and all the rest of our darkest inclinations as flawed human beings. Autocrats thirsting after power know this full well and have been fanning the flames of our worst instincts since the dawn of civilization -- divide and conquer, works everytime. Today is no different. We really haven't advance much as a species, destroying our society and environment as a result, shitting in our own nest on a worldwide scale.
Deepspace, I like your word "greedflation," thank you. it will now be in my vocabulary. Economist like to talk about the push-pull forces of supply and demand, and the "equilibrium" and "invisible hand" of the market place; as though these things explain how prices behave. This is mostly BS. In a capitalist system which worships private ownership of the means of production, it is the the owners who raise prices, in their greed. It seems so obvious.
I disagree- my POV is that Kamala spoke with too much sympathy for folks crying about inflation where she was repeatedly missing tee ups for speaking about what economists have been reporting about how good the Biden Administration was doing bringing it back). And she offered to create a subsidy for 1st time home buyers.
Kamala talked at people. Transactional analysis, she was parent talking to child, telling them this is what we did, you should be grateful
Trump people child to child, they understood and grasped what he was saying, for the people are like children, all emotion and I want my ice cream NOW.
Trump is a liar, we know that, at a gut level his MAGAts probably knows that, but he talks to them, not down to them.
When they see him bloviating, and straying off message,lost in the ether on stage, they relate.. that is me, say they.
Worse part is that he won't deliver, because he can't, things are beyond his control, and his policies will only exacerbate the economic situation, but he has scapegoats, the libs, the queers, the trans, the immigrants;.
What is the colorof your triangle and how many triangles are you going to have to wear.?
I think Bernie missed a generation. We don't have a labor class. We have mostly a "gig" economy. Most people under the age of 50 have never had a steady job. Manufacturing, the golden goose, was slaughtered and the good jobs went to foreign countries or were automated.
Of the 23% of us in the middle class, most have acquired skills that are transferrable to several different jobs and occupations. I spent several years listening to vocational testimony. Many skills become obsolete...displaced by technology. Society has progressed at the expense of manual labor.
As I've been saying, IMHO we didn't lose to Trump on the economy. That's just a pretext. We lost to psy ops that targeted the "other" to visceral, not rational voters. Most voted to screw themselves economically and physically.
The Democrats did lose on the economy. They were too afraid of losing the money of corporate donors to tell the truth about the economic suffering of the majority or offer what could really help make people's lives more secure and happier. The party should change the name to the Democratic Labor Party and be that.
Democrats did not create the inflation. If the cost of items is an issue, lay the blame on those who set prices, speculate in commodity markets, permitted unscrupulous add ons. etc. I've explained previously how Trump set the stage for high prices in the energy sector, which is like a tax.
Democrats gave us the lowest unemployment rate in modern history. Gave us the highest GDP. Compared to other industrialized countries, we are first in practically every measure. That includes inflation.
We lost because we are "the other." On a state level labor issues prevailed in even some red states. Check out Missouri. Requires most employers to provide paid sick leave. The base pay for workers increases from $12.30 an hour to $13.75 an hour on Jan. 1, 2025, and to $15 an hour in January 2026. Requires employers with 15 or more workers to provide one hour of paid sick time for every 30 hours worked.
Abortion rights won in 7 states. Although it received a plurality in Florida, it did not get 60% that would amend our state constitution.
Many women who voted for abortion rights, ironically voted for Trump.
The real issue is hate.
I should have said the "perceived" economy by most people.
Like a stretched rubber band reverberating, the economy exploded after the COVID epidemic, quickly heating up inflation. Other major factors outside Democrat's control also exacerbated inflation to a significant degree, like Trump's egregious mishandling of the pandemic, making the economic impact much worse, Putin's invasion of Ukraine, creating uncertainty in the oil markets, and supply-chain disruptions when the world economy was largely shut down during the pandemic.
Biden's policies undeniably got the economy back on the right track, which eventually brought average inflation down to historically reasonable levels after an initial surge. Our economy is now the best in the world, even though gas, housing, and food prices are still too high, which Harris's proposed policies were laser-focused on getting back under control. Somehow, big corporate media seemed to mostly ignore that fact. And remember, wages have also risen considerably during Biden's administration, which mitigates the effects of inflation. People tend to forget that in their grossly misinformed narrative that Democrats are bad for the economy.
Sure, people certainly FEEL the effects of high food, gas, and housing prices. But "greedflation" is largely responsible — a phenomenon of excessive profit-taking by titans of industry, who, by the way, normally support Republicans and their despicable lies. But people THINK the economy is bad because that is what their Republican, lying, right-wing media sources have told them to think.
In actuality, Democrats have handed Republicans the gift of a robust economy, the envy of the world. (Thank you!) Now, we'll see what Trump and his lickspittle cronies will do with it. Hahahahaha...
Deepspace I am with Daniel above. The economy is just the excuse, as Daniel said the reall issue was hate, that is why the voters voted progressive then voted for Trump
Hate stems from fear. The fear is loss of the masculine imperative. Power over women. There are many women, maybe most, that perceive the man as their protector and provider. That was Trump's appeal to women when he said I am your protector and they voted for himwill voting for abortion.
The women who read and comment on Thom Hartman's substck and Robert Reich's are actually in the minority., as are the men who are not threatened with female empowerment.
I don't disagree; fear begets hate begets anger begets misogyny, xenophobia, racism, religeous bigotry, and all the rest of our darkest inclinations as flawed human beings. Autocrats thirsting after power know this full well and have been fanning the flames of our worst instincts since the dawn of civilization -- divide and conquer, works everytime. Today is no different. We really haven't advance much as a species, destroying our society and environment as a result, shitting in our own nest on a worldwide scale.
Deepspace, I like your word "greedflation," thank you. it will now be in my vocabulary. Economist like to talk about the push-pull forces of supply and demand, and the "equilibrium" and "invisible hand" of the market place; as though these things explain how prices behave. This is mostly BS. In a capitalist system which worships private ownership of the means of production, it is the the owners who raise prices, in their greed. It seems so obvious.
It is not my word; I just borrowed it because it succinctly encapsulates the issue. It's been around for a while.
I disagree- my POV is that Kamala spoke with too much sympathy for folks crying about inflation where she was repeatedly missing tee ups for speaking about what economists have been reporting about how good the Biden Administration was doing bringing it back). And she offered to create a subsidy for 1st time home buyers.
Kamala talked at people. Transactional analysis, she was parent talking to child, telling them this is what we did, you should be grateful
Trump people child to child, they understood and grasped what he was saying, for the people are like children, all emotion and I want my ice cream NOW.
Trump is a liar, we know that, at a gut level his MAGAts probably knows that, but he talks to them, not down to them.
When they see him bloviating, and straying off message,lost in the ether on stage, they relate.. that is me, say they.
Worse part is that he won't deliver, because he can't, things are beyond his control, and his policies will only exacerbate the economic situation, but he has scapegoats, the libs, the queers, the trans, the immigrants;.
What is the colorof your triangle and how many triangles are you going to have to wear.?
Ms. Maloney, YES no doubt about it Labor Party.
Mr. Solomon you are correct about the gig economy.