You are absolutely right. Voter suppression has been the modus operandi of the Republican Party for many decades. Let alone, protecting corporate malfeasance over the interests and safety of their own constituents. That is why I fail to understand how any informed, well-meaning human being can for one minute remain a Republican. I deeply appreciate the Lincoln Project and all the Republicans who have stood up against Trump. But there is massive denial here. It didn't start with Trump, and it ain't gonna end with him!
Absolutely true. It seems D's have yet to figure out that Republicans over at least the last 4-5 decades are serious about holding power even though they are a minority party. The dirty tricks practiced to get Republican presidents elected are mind-boggling and, treasonous, in the cases of Nixon, Reagan, and Trump.
Rehnquist's Court anti-constitutionally anointed Bush II as president in 2000. Our country paid a heavy price from that ruling. Not only did Bush lose FL it wasn't even close. An objective recount, if not stopped, would've proved it.
I completely agree. In no other democracy would the citizens have tolerated any of this. Monica Lewinsky didn't help, but a corrupt Supreme Court placed Bush in power, and Bush's negligence my have led to 9-11, and certainly was directly responsible for the Iraq War and the resultant current refugee crisis that is enabling the resurgence of fascism here and throughout Europe. The Republicans continually play dirty and thuggish while the Democrats think they have to be Boy Scouts.
All part of the long-term desire of Republicans to "run the government like a business", i.e., unethically and unaccountably, for maximum profit. Less a free enterprise than freebooting.
Without blushing Republicans contend that it’s all about maintaining “the integrity of the vote”. Like skillful pickpockets they distract with one hand while robbing you with the other. If you want to know what they are up to the best indicator is what they are accusing Democrats of doing. Distract, deflect, diffuse, and project are their primary tools. They must be called out and exposed. Thanks Thom for your work in doing so!!
Sadly, the problem in Miami Dade is complicated. As the late great cartoon character Pogo, denizen of the Everglades said "We have met the enemy and they are us."
In a recent poll, Harris leads in Miami Dade, although Cuban Americans are 61% invested in Trump/Republicans. Democrats hold a a registration edge in the county, although 84,000 Democrats were removed from the voter rolls since 2022.
We recently had our primary. Hundreds of thousands of voter by mail ballots were rejected for various reasons, and here in Baghdad By the Sea we are working on data resolutions.
Just donated. I think this issue is going to be HUGE, for all the enthusiasm for Harris and Walz, the MAGA are going to try and steal 2024. We need to prepare for this.
While these tactics are deplorable and reprehensable, the assignment of the onus begs some questioning. I have seen scats of information regarding voter intimidation throughout our political years, which resulted mainly in the general public shaking their heads in righteous disapproval--for YEARS, in fact. This reaction, or perhaps more accurately this lack of reaction, this pussilanimous response, was all there was. In old journalistic lingo it was referred to as "write three inches of 'ain't a shame and forget it'.". Where has been the outrage? Where the fight-back? Where has been a nationally organized, concerted effort to counter this most aggregious insult to democracy? It was successful then because it was tacitly allowed, and there is little evidence today that wailings and whining will be the only response. I fear for the future, and blaming the long-game coup (can't just be laid on MAGA--voter intimidation long preceeded MAGA) is an appropriate response, but leaving out culpable blame for those who could have, with enough protests, enough of a consortium of lawyers to fight back, a meaningful national response beyond mere sanctimonious head-shaking shameing, is also cogently appropriate. They fight hard, we don't. It's what keeps them going. We have always out- numbered them. We may well lose the war because we refuse to acknowledge it is "war."
My mother and her democratic women's club in Phoenix showed up to protect inner city voters against Rehnquist's voter intimidation tactics. That sort of effort continues in urban areas across the country thanks to numerous voter protection organizations, the League of Women Voters, black sororities and local Democratic and unaffiliated progressive clubs. Please feel free to join in.
The problem Gerald is that each of the 50 states is Sovereign, Think of them as countries,and they are only bound together by laws which they have approved, via their representatives in Congress.
The constitution says all rights not enumerated are reserved to the states, another way of putting it that the states have delegate or relegated certain rights to the federal government, like the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) which is necessary for the successful conduct of commercial affairs (business) without there would be on interstate commerce, medium of exchange or interstate anything, including high way, air travel even national defense.
Because the states have no delegated their power over voting, marriage, civil rights, gun licensing and control to the federal government they can do anything that they want to do.
The UCC can be however the vehicle for legalization of abortion, nation wide, because it antiabortion laws inhibits the ability of patients and health care providers to travel interstate to give and receive care. In fact I think that a mere executive order could achieve the goal, as such an order is only addressing and clarifying legislation that has already been passed that enabled the Uniform Commercial Code(UCC)
The UCC is a tool that politicians ignore, because it is more convenient and has less blowback, to blame failure on the other party.
If the president took action to legalize a controversial process, holy hell in the form of back lash would come down on him or her, the safe political way out is to blame it on congress.
This might even apply to gun control, because, per the second Amendment, We already have a well regulated militia, in fact 50 of them called the national guard, and a standing army to boot, so an armed citizenry is no longer necessary, and in fact poses a threat to law and order.,
In 2023, 6,192 children and teenagers were shot, with 1,663 dying. This is a record number of school shootings in over 40 years, with 346 incidents on school grounds. Firearms are now the leading cause of death for children in the U.S., surpassing motor vehicle deaths.
The majority of gun violence deaths in 2023 occurred in the following states:
Texas, California, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Illinois, and Louisiana
There were over 60,000 armed robberies.
Armed robberies interfere with commerce, and hurt the economy, unless perps are caught and jailed then they boost the GDP, salaries for clerks,lawyers,judges, the prison industrial complex those who service the PIC, the communities that house and support them.
True, but the sovereign citizen movement is apt to make the UCC a dubious argument to claim they are exempt from laws requiring payment of one’s taxes, licensing, insurance and titling requirements for automobiles, etc. YouTube has some bizarre videos of sovereign citizen litigants making legal arguments totally without foundation in law.
I am more than familiar with the Sovereign Citizen Movement, you are correct they have compelling arguments, but what they lack is the ability to do anything about it,
They harken back, for instance to Old English Common law, and ignore sovereign law (law imposed top down), that also ignore succeeding law. Finally they don't have the guns, and without guns there is no law.
I've known of a few SC's, who have gone to jail for not paying their taxes, or driving without a license or license plate, protesting all the way "you have no jurisdiction over me". I've heard of a few nut jobs, using a citizens arrest on a public offiical.
The also claim that maritime law, admiralty law has moved inland. Admiralty law makes the captain of the ship, the ultimate dictator. Hmmm, Trump.
Basically they are anarcho libertarians.
Their ideology falls flat, the moment that the use Federal Reserve notes. Once they do that they accept legitimacy and jurisdiction of the federal government.
Hmm, maybe they are behind Crypto currency, until such time you can use it to buy food, liquor, smokes, a car, a home they will have to use Federal Reserve notes.
Hopefully the strategy of removing voters off the lists and intimidation will fail this year. I have been stating to focus and work on TX for decades. It occurred in 2020 but was not registered as blue because of illegal working of the Repubs. This year is going to be different and TX becomes blue permanently which means the GOP is never going to be a national party again.
It scares the hell of oit me that we don’t have lawyers and legislators in place to challenge these tactics in a timely manner ! THUS, they get away with it … again!
Fortunately, there are lawyers and groups in place to challenge Paxton and other cheaters: The ACLU, Common Cause, MoveOn, and Democracy Docket are just a few grassroots groups that go after voter intimidation.
"There are two ways of exerting one's strength: one is pushing down and the other is pulling up."---Booker T. Washington
That's exactly what we're looking at, well over a hundred years later. It sums-up the difference between this Republican incarnation and the current Democratic Party.
This suppression and the vile people perpetrating it should repulse anyone who cares about the price paid fighting for voting rights. Pushing down is all the GOP is thinking about these days. We owe it to the people that sacrificed everything to keep pulling up. Besides the Suffragists and Dr. King, the names Chaney, Goodman, and Schwerner come to mind. So so many good people.
Help someone you know to check their registration or get to the polls. Looking forward to Greg's "Vigilantes, Inc" and hearing the latest on this subject from you both, Thom.
On Sunday, April 13, 1873, an armed white militia overpowered Black freedmen and state militia occupying the Grant Parish courthouse in Colfax, Louisiana after the contested 1872 election for governor of Louisiana and local offices. The election results were still undetermined at the beginning of spring, and both Republican and Fusionists had certified their own candidates for the local offices of sheriff and justice of the peace. Federal troops reinforced the election of the Republican governor, William Pitt Kellogg.
At the massacre, most of the freedmen were killed after surrendering, and nearly another 50 were killed later that night after being held as prisoners for several hours. Estimates of the number of dead have varied over the years, ranging from 62 to 153; three whites died but the number of Black victims was difficult to determine because many bodies were thrown into the Red River or removed for burial, possibly at mass graves.
Some members of the white gangs were indicted and charged by the Enforcement Act of 1870. The Act had been designed primarily to allow Federal enforcement and prosecution of actions of the Ku Klux Klan and other secret vigilante groups against blacks, both for violence and murder and for preventing them from voting. Among other provisions, the law made it a felony for two or more people to conspire to deprive anyone of his constitutional rights.[4] The white defendants were charged with sixteen counts, divided into two sets of eight each. Among the charges included violating the freedmen's rights to lawfully assemble, to vote, and to bear arms.
There was a good book I read detailing the facts of the Colfax massacre and the fact that it was designed to prevent newly freed men from voting by fear and murder. Grandfather clauses were also used to prevent Black men from voting unless they could prove their grandfathers could vote, the abuse of literacy and government tests, etc.
That's a great quote, Alis. As I've written on these threads before it is easy to sum up the differences between the candidates. The New Yorker put it well when it said that the only way Trump could feel big was by making others look small. And since nobody can put up with his antics forever ultimately he betrays everyone who trusts him.
Harris is much more like what Gandhi said, "“I suppose leadership at one time meant muscles; but today it means getting along with people.” She is the one who picked Walz because he said, "What can I do to help you?" The Donald, on the other hand, has to have two scoops of ice cream at his parties while his guests get one. After all, that shows he is more important than them. Is it any surprise that their political parties reflect such differences in how people are treated?
The Republican "party" has completely othered itself into the darkest corner of society. Whatever becomes of them, is on them. Straight to hell with these sick freaks. Nobody wants their bullshit.
We are so very broken. Mainstream media continues to give the felon free air time and refuses to cover the anti-voting monstrosities as the crisis it is. Instead of making this right we have our house wasting time and treasure on surveying the felon's shooting? I guess that is what you get when you have an insurrectionist speaker of the house!
How can a felon run for the presidency?
What happened to the rule of law?
How can Garland still have a job while insurrectionists are still in congress? Biden should have fired him long ago.
Why isn't Thom invited to mainstream media?
Instead we are fed a steady stream of former GOP talking heads that make me want to puke.
No wonder young people have abandoned mainstream media as a source for news.
Thank goodness we have Mark Elias trying to do DOJs job! But....grrrr...so very frustrating.
I think the reason for President Biden holdjng back on AG Garland had a lot to do about wanting to keep a discreet distance from Hunter Biden’s prosecution. Hunter didn’t hold a position in his father’s administration. If Democrats had gone after Trump’s unpaid and incompetent daughter and son in law the way the Republicans went after Hunter Biden, Trump would have been attacking the AG and whining about how unfair it all was.
Voter suppression has been a GOP tactic ever since I can remember, and I’m 84. I worked at the polls (in NJ) for 35 years, and it never happened here, but across the Delaware in PA, I’ve known of polling places where handicapped people had no access because of barriers to wheelchairs and walkers. It’s a disgrace that voters are kept from voting to help the GOP win elections.
You are absolutely right. Voter suppression has been the modus operandi of the Republican Party for many decades. Let alone, protecting corporate malfeasance over the interests and safety of their own constituents. That is why I fail to understand how any informed, well-meaning human being can for one minute remain a Republican. I deeply appreciate the Lincoln Project and all the Republicans who have stood up against Trump. But there is massive denial here. It didn't start with Trump, and it ain't gonna end with him!
Absolutely true. It seems D's have yet to figure out that Republicans over at least the last 4-5 decades are serious about holding power even though they are a minority party. The dirty tricks practiced to get Republican presidents elected are mind-boggling and, treasonous, in the cases of Nixon, Reagan, and Trump.
Rehnquist's Court anti-constitutionally anointed Bush II as president in 2000. Our country paid a heavy price from that ruling. Not only did Bush lose FL it wasn't even close. An objective recount, if not stopped, would've proved it.
I completely agree. In no other democracy would the citizens have tolerated any of this. Monica Lewinsky didn't help, but a corrupt Supreme Court placed Bush in power, and Bush's negligence my have led to 9-11, and certainly was directly responsible for the Iraq War and the resultant current refugee crisis that is enabling the resurgence of fascism here and throughout Europe. The Republicans continually play dirty and thuggish while the Democrats think they have to be Boy Scouts.
All part of the long-term desire of Republicans to "run the government like a business", i.e., unethically and unaccountably, for maximum profit. Less a free enterprise than freebooting.
Without blushing Republicans contend that it’s all about maintaining “the integrity of the vote”. Like skillful pickpockets they distract with one hand while robbing you with the other. If you want to know what they are up to the best indicator is what they are accusing Democrats of doing. Distract, deflect, diffuse, and project are their primary tools. They must be called out and exposed. Thanks Thom for your work in doing so!!
Sadly, the problem in Miami Dade is complicated. As the late great cartoon character Pogo, denizen of the Everglades said "We have met the enemy and they are us."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/black-lives-matter-faces-backlash-statement-cuba-protest-rcna1438
In a recent poll, Harris leads in Miami Dade, although Cuban Americans are 61% invested in Trump/Republicans. Democrats hold a a registration edge in the county, although 84,000 Democrats were removed from the voter rolls since 2022.
We are hard at work trying to reregister those people. Need volunteers, especially for phone banking, FT 6 Thursdays 2-4 edt. Registration in Florida closes October 7. https://www.mobilize.us/ft6/?q=phone%20banks&tag_ids=20038
The DNC has a national campaign to address voter preclusion. I contribute to Common Cause and similar groups. https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/dnc-sues-georgia-election-board-for-passing-rules-delaying-certification-of-results/
We recently had our primary. Hundreds of thousands of voter by mail ballots were rejected for various reasons, and here in Baghdad By the Sea we are working on data resolutions.
Just donated. I think this issue is going to be HUGE, for all the enthusiasm for Harris and Walz, the MAGA are going to try and steal 2024. We need to prepare for this.
Obviously the GOP has no shame or moral compass!
Obviously! Starting yo wonder if they ever did!?
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While these tactics are deplorable and reprehensable, the assignment of the onus begs some questioning. I have seen scats of information regarding voter intimidation throughout our political years, which resulted mainly in the general public shaking their heads in righteous disapproval--for YEARS, in fact. This reaction, or perhaps more accurately this lack of reaction, this pussilanimous response, was all there was. In old journalistic lingo it was referred to as "write three inches of 'ain't a shame and forget it'.". Where has been the outrage? Where the fight-back? Where has been a nationally organized, concerted effort to counter this most aggregious insult to democracy? It was successful then because it was tacitly allowed, and there is little evidence today that wailings and whining will be the only response. I fear for the future, and blaming the long-game coup (can't just be laid on MAGA--voter intimidation long preceeded MAGA) is an appropriate response, but leaving out culpable blame for those who could have, with enough protests, enough of a consortium of lawyers to fight back, a meaningful national response beyond mere sanctimonious head-shaking shameing, is also cogently appropriate. They fight hard, we don't. It's what keeps them going. We have always out- numbered them. We may well lose the war because we refuse to acknowledge it is "war."
My mother and her democratic women's club in Phoenix showed up to protect inner city voters against Rehnquist's voter intimidation tactics. That sort of effort continues in urban areas across the country thanks to numerous voter protection organizations, the League of Women Voters, black sororities and local Democratic and unaffiliated progressive clubs. Please feel free to join in.
The problem Gerald is that each of the 50 states is Sovereign, Think of them as countries,and they are only bound together by laws which they have approved, via their representatives in Congress.
The constitution says all rights not enumerated are reserved to the states, another way of putting it that the states have delegate or relegated certain rights to the federal government, like the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) which is necessary for the successful conduct of commercial affairs (business) without there would be on interstate commerce, medium of exchange or interstate anything, including high way, air travel even national defense.
Because the states have no delegated their power over voting, marriage, civil rights, gun licensing and control to the federal government they can do anything that they want to do.
The UCC can be however the vehicle for legalization of abortion, nation wide, because it antiabortion laws inhibits the ability of patients and health care providers to travel interstate to give and receive care. In fact I think that a mere executive order could achieve the goal, as such an order is only addressing and clarifying legislation that has already been passed that enabled the Uniform Commercial Code(UCC)
The UCC is a tool that politicians ignore, because it is more convenient and has less blowback, to blame failure on the other party.
If the president took action to legalize a controversial process, holy hell in the form of back lash would come down on him or her, the safe political way out is to blame it on congress.
This might even apply to gun control, because, per the second Amendment, We already have a well regulated militia, in fact 50 of them called the national guard, and a standing army to boot, so an armed citizenry is no longer necessary, and in fact poses a threat to law and order.,
In 2023, 6,192 children and teenagers were shot, with 1,663 dying. This is a record number of school shootings in over 40 years, with 346 incidents on school grounds. Firearms are now the leading cause of death for children in the U.S., surpassing motor vehicle deaths.
The majority of gun violence deaths in 2023 occurred in the following states:
Texas, California, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Illinois, and Louisiana
There were over 60,000 armed robberies.
Armed robberies interfere with commerce, and hurt the economy, unless perps are caught and jailed then they boost the GDP, salaries for clerks,lawyers,judges, the prison industrial complex those who service the PIC, the communities that house and support them.
True, but the sovereign citizen movement is apt to make the UCC a dubious argument to claim they are exempt from laws requiring payment of one’s taxes, licensing, insurance and titling requirements for automobiles, etc. YouTube has some bizarre videos of sovereign citizen litigants making legal arguments totally without foundation in law.
I am more than familiar with the Sovereign Citizen Movement, you are correct they have compelling arguments, but what they lack is the ability to do anything about it,
They harken back, for instance to Old English Common law, and ignore sovereign law (law imposed top down), that also ignore succeeding law. Finally they don't have the guns, and without guns there is no law.
I've known of a few SC's, who have gone to jail for not paying their taxes, or driving without a license or license plate, protesting all the way "you have no jurisdiction over me". I've heard of a few nut jobs, using a citizens arrest on a public offiical.
The also claim that maritime law, admiralty law has moved inland. Admiralty law makes the captain of the ship, the ultimate dictator. Hmmm, Trump.
Basically they are anarcho libertarians.
Their ideology falls flat, the moment that the use Federal Reserve notes. Once they do that they accept legitimacy and jurisdiction of the federal government.
Hmm, maybe they are behind Crypto currency, until such time you can use it to buy food, liquor, smokes, a car, a home they will have to use Federal Reserve notes.
Hopefully the strategy of removing voters off the lists and intimidation will fail this year. I have been stating to focus and work on TX for decades. It occurred in 2020 but was not registered as blue because of illegal working of the Repubs. This year is going to be different and TX becomes blue permanently which means the GOP is never going to be a national party again.
It scares the hell of oit me that we don’t have lawyers and legislators in place to challenge these tactics in a timely manner ! THUS, they get away with it … again!
Fortunately, there are lawyers and groups in place to challenge Paxton and other cheaters: The ACLU, Common Cause, MoveOn, and Democracy Docket are just a few grassroots groups that go after voter intimidation.
"There are two ways of exerting one's strength: one is pushing down and the other is pulling up."---Booker T. Washington
That's exactly what we're looking at, well over a hundred years later. It sums-up the difference between this Republican incarnation and the current Democratic Party.
This suppression and the vile people perpetrating it should repulse anyone who cares about the price paid fighting for voting rights. Pushing down is all the GOP is thinking about these days. We owe it to the people that sacrificed everything to keep pulling up. Besides the Suffragists and Dr. King, the names Chaney, Goodman, and Schwerner come to mind. So so many good people.
Help someone you know to check their registration or get to the polls. Looking forward to Greg's "Vigilantes, Inc" and hearing the latest on this subject from you both, Thom.
On Sunday, April 13, 1873, an armed white militia overpowered Black freedmen and state militia occupying the Grant Parish courthouse in Colfax, Louisiana after the contested 1872 election for governor of Louisiana and local offices. The election results were still undetermined at the beginning of spring, and both Republican and Fusionists had certified their own candidates for the local offices of sheriff and justice of the peace. Federal troops reinforced the election of the Republican governor, William Pitt Kellogg.
At the massacre, most of the freedmen were killed after surrendering, and nearly another 50 were killed later that night after being held as prisoners for several hours. Estimates of the number of dead have varied over the years, ranging from 62 to 153; three whites died but the number of Black victims was difficult to determine because many bodies were thrown into the Red River or removed for burial, possibly at mass graves.
Some members of the white gangs were indicted and charged by the Enforcement Act of 1870. The Act had been designed primarily to allow Federal enforcement and prosecution of actions of the Ku Klux Klan and other secret vigilante groups against blacks, both for violence and murder and for preventing them from voting. Among other provisions, the law made it a felony for two or more people to conspire to deprive anyone of his constitutional rights.[4] The white defendants were charged with sixteen counts, divided into two sets of eight each. Among the charges included violating the freedmen's rights to lawfully assemble, to vote, and to bear arms.
https://www.oyez.org/cases/1850-1900/109us3
Under Jim Crow, used literacy tests poll taxes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_taxes_in_the_United_States
There was a good book I read detailing the facts of the Colfax massacre and the fact that it was designed to prevent newly freed men from voting by fear and murder. Grandfather clauses were also used to prevent Black men from voting unless they could prove their grandfathers could vote, the abuse of literacy and government tests, etc.
That's a great quote, Alis. As I've written on these threads before it is easy to sum up the differences between the candidates. The New Yorker put it well when it said that the only way Trump could feel big was by making others look small. And since nobody can put up with his antics forever ultimately he betrays everyone who trusts him.
Harris is much more like what Gandhi said, "“I suppose leadership at one time meant muscles; but today it means getting along with people.” She is the one who picked Walz because he said, "What can I do to help you?" The Donald, on the other hand, has to have two scoops of ice cream at his parties while his guests get one. After all, that shows he is more important than them. Is it any surprise that their political parties reflect such differences in how people are treated?
Gestapo.
A Gestapo [w/ battering-rams and guns] is what "Banana Republicans" require to FAKE "win."
Putin and Xi would feel right at home in either FL or TX.
The Republican "party" has completely othered itself into the darkest corner of society. Whatever becomes of them, is on them. Straight to hell with these sick freaks. Nobody wants their bullshit.
Paxton, DeSantis and Jim Crow 2.0 need to be driven back to the deepest recesses of hell.
We are so very broken. Mainstream media continues to give the felon free air time and refuses to cover the anti-voting monstrosities as the crisis it is. Instead of making this right we have our house wasting time and treasure on surveying the felon's shooting? I guess that is what you get when you have an insurrectionist speaker of the house!
How can a felon run for the presidency?
What happened to the rule of law?
How can Garland still have a job while insurrectionists are still in congress? Biden should have fired him long ago.
Why isn't Thom invited to mainstream media?
Instead we are fed a steady stream of former GOP talking heads that make me want to puke.
No wonder young people have abandoned mainstream media as a source for news.
Thank goodness we have Mark Elias trying to do DOJs job! But....grrrr...so very frustrating.
I think the reason for President Biden holdjng back on AG Garland had a lot to do about wanting to keep a discreet distance from Hunter Biden’s prosecution. Hunter didn’t hold a position in his father’s administration. If Democrats had gone after Trump’s unpaid and incompetent daughter and son in law the way the Republicans went after Hunter Biden, Trump would have been attacking the AG and whining about how unfair it all was.
And how is convicted felon Trump allowed to be on the ballot in Florida? According to Herr Governor he shouldnt even attempt to vote!
Voter suppression has been a GOP tactic ever since I can remember, and I’m 84. I worked at the polls (in NJ) for 35 years, and it never happened here, but across the Delaware in PA, I’ve known of polling places where handicapped people had no access because of barriers to wheelchairs and walkers. It’s a disgrace that voters are kept from voting to help the GOP win elections.
We cannot let them win.
https://zeteo.com/p/trump-project-2025-russia-style-oligarchy-scaramucci?utm_source=substack&publication_id=2325511&post_id=148161273&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&utm_campaign=email-share&triggerShare=true&isFreemail=false&r=2g7cs&triedRedirect=true
GOTV this year while you still can.