It seems the Democrats only know how to play hardball with the progressives ( remembering what they did to Bernie Sanders), they don't want to piss the wrong people off or they will lose money.
It seems the Democrats only know how to play hardball with the progressives ( remembering what they did to Bernie Sanders), they don't want to piss the wrong people off or they will lose money.
Yep,good way to put it, hardball with progressives, soft ball with the corporations and billionaires.
I hate Rahm Emanuel from the bottom of my heart, he called progressives "fucking retarded"
And the "strategists" they hauled out in front of cameras on MSNNC, Begala, Biggs, all of them are effete milquetoasts, weak, soft shoeing, ineffectual.
James Carville speaks brashly, but how can you trust someone married to that right wing Mary Matalin?
My wife told me that if I wasn't [progressive she would never have had a second date, and the same with me. Makes me wonder about George and Kellyanne Conway, except that both are conservative, that is right wing, only Kellyanne made a living working for Trump, but otherwise they are ideologically predisposed to right wingerism.
Progressives do move the party (somewhat) to the left, but in a centrist-leaning country, they cannot win elections. Perfect is the enemy of the good and their purity tests put reality at a disadvantage.
I totally agree. I for long considered myself a progressive, despite their insanity when it comes to political correctness, the progressive movement is driven by the immature, self indulgent and self righteous left and backed up by old time Marxist ideologues who live in the past.
At the same time I find the centrist position on many things appalling. I am definitely not conservative, except when it some to my own personal behavior and well being.
I have take the ideological purity tests a number of times, and I always come out radical.
As I don't fit in any label or group.
Common sense and critical reasoning has no place in politics, it is either/or
I am also generally conservative in personal behavior (wasn't always so - lol.) But freedom to choose is fundamental. We have a tweedle-dem and tweedle-pug situation with our two-party system and I choose tweedle-dem as the best option. LOL I don't have a whole lot of faith in either party, because SCOTUS made political bribery both legal and essential to gain office.
We are fraternal twins Suzie. I echo the same sentiments. Neither of us are team players it seems.
I think professional sports are ridiculous watching what is in essence millionaire, gladiators, and getting emotional over the whole affair, spending what is a fortune to attend the games. not to mention the travel, the expense, putting up with traffic and the commute and finding a place to park, and then eating the god awful food they sell at concessions.
I don't get it
Then there is this March madness craziness, that I really don't get, maybe it attracts gambling addicts.
Watching grown men run back and forth to put a ball in a basket which they can reach, with their outstretch arms.
Now Women's basketball, that's different, few of them can "dunk" a ball over the hoop.
Mens basketball they should raise the hoop another two feet. And they lionize a dude because he is over 7 ft tall and with outstretched arms 10 ft.
Don't know about Carville these days. He recently said: "A suspicion of mine is that there are too many preachy females тАж тАШDonтАЩt drink beer, donтАЩt watch football, donтАЩt eat hamburgers, this is not good for you,'тАЭ he said. тАЬThe message is too feminine: тАШEverything youтАЩre doing is destroying the planet. YouтАЩve got to eat your peas.' ...тАЬWhen I look at these polling numbers, itтАЩs like walking in on your grandma naked. You canтАЩt get the image out of your mind.тАЭ
He said this in an interview with Maureen Down on NYT on Saturday.
I said before Carville is an asshole. Being aggressive when it comes to policy is one thing, but he strikes below the belt, his misogyny sure shows. Sounds like he is still pissed at is mother.
And I remember the Bernie Sanders bros wearing anti-Clinton T-shirts that read, "Bern the Witch." I remember his "She's not fit," comments. Whatever happened to Bernie, he did to himself. He was NOT a Democrat, and in no way was he entitled to the resources of the Democratic Party, having never participates in the hlonf NS ard work of earning those resources. Why do you think a man who wasn't part of the party and had never been involved in developing the infrastructure of that party should have been privileged by that party?
DonтАЩt agree with the statement that Bernie caused what happened to him. I remember the DNC pushing Hillary , remember Donna Brazille ?(not sure I spelled her name correctly), and then Elizabeth Warren calling him sexist. Sheesh! No, the DNC wanted Hillary and that was the end of that.
Yes, thatтАЩs true. But maybe thatтАЩs the problem. Bernie raised a lot of money from A LOT of people - he wasnтАЩt bought - but he wasnтАЩt a Democrat so he did not become the nominee - so how is that in the best interest of the voter??
It seems the Democrats only know how to play hardball with the progressives ( remembering what they did to Bernie Sanders), they don't want to piss the wrong people off or they will lose money.
Yep,good way to put it, hardball with progressives, soft ball with the corporations and billionaires.
I hate Rahm Emanuel from the bottom of my heart, he called progressives "fucking retarded"
And the "strategists" they hauled out in front of cameras on MSNNC, Begala, Biggs, all of them are effete milquetoasts, weak, soft shoeing, ineffectual.
James Carville speaks brashly, but how can you trust someone married to that right wing Mary Matalin?
My wife told me that if I wasn't [progressive she would never have had a second date, and the same with me. Makes me wonder about George and Kellyanne Conway, except that both are conservative, that is right wing, only Kellyanne made a living working for Trump, but otherwise they are ideologically predisposed to right wingerism.
Progressives do move the party (somewhat) to the left, but in a centrist-leaning country, they cannot win elections. Perfect is the enemy of the good and their purity tests put reality at a disadvantage.
I think the GOP of today has gone off the rails, the Dems are more GOP light, the progressives are the centrists IMHO.
Agree. In every other part of the developed world, our "left" is center right and our "far left" is center left.
I totally agree. I for long considered myself a progressive, despite their insanity when it comes to political correctness, the progressive movement is driven by the immature, self indulgent and self righteous left and backed up by old time Marxist ideologues who live in the past.
At the same time I find the centrist position on many things appalling. I am definitely not conservative, except when it some to my own personal behavior and well being.
I have take the ideological purity tests a number of times, and I always come out radical.
As I don't fit in any label or group.
Common sense and critical reasoning has no place in politics, it is either/or
I am also generally conservative in personal behavior (wasn't always so - lol.) But freedom to choose is fundamental. We have a tweedle-dem and tweedle-pug situation with our two-party system and I choose tweedle-dem as the best option. LOL I don't have a whole lot of faith in either party, because SCOTUS made political bribery both legal and essential to gain office.
We are fraternal twins Suzie. I echo the same sentiments. Neither of us are team players it seems.
I think professional sports are ridiculous watching what is in essence millionaire, gladiators, and getting emotional over the whole affair, spending what is a fortune to attend the games. not to mention the travel, the expense, putting up with traffic and the commute and finding a place to park, and then eating the god awful food they sell at concessions.
I don't get it
Then there is this March madness craziness, that I really don't get, maybe it attracts gambling addicts.
Watching grown men run back and forth to put a ball in a basket which they can reach, with their outstretch arms.
Now Women's basketball, that's different, few of them can "dunk" a ball over the hoop.
Mens basketball they should raise the hoop another two feet. And they lionize a dude because he is over 7 ft tall and with outstretched arms 10 ft.
Crazy.
Don't know about Carville these days. He recently said: "A suspicion of mine is that there are too many preachy females тАж тАШDonтАЩt drink beer, donтАЩt watch football, donтАЩt eat hamburgers, this is not good for you,'тАЭ he said. тАЬThe message is too feminine: тАШEverything youтАЩre doing is destroying the planet. YouтАЩve got to eat your peas.' ...тАЬWhen I look at these polling numbers, itтАЩs like walking in on your grandma naked. You canтАЩt get the image out of your mind.тАЭ
He said this in an interview with Maureen Down on NYT on Saturday.
I said before Carville is an asshole. Being aggressive when it comes to policy is one thing, but he strikes below the belt, his misogyny sure shows. Sounds like he is still pissed at is mother.
Agree. As for the progressive part, you can take the girl out of Amsterdam, but you canтАЩt take Amsterdam out of the girl!ЁЯША
And I remember the Bernie Sanders bros wearing anti-Clinton T-shirts that read, "Bern the Witch." I remember his "She's not fit," comments. Whatever happened to Bernie, he did to himself. He was NOT a Democrat, and in no way was he entitled to the resources of the Democratic Party, having never participates in the hlonf NS ard work of earning those resources. Why do you think a man who wasn't part of the party and had never been involved in developing the infrastructure of that party should have been privileged by that party?
Not to belaber a point but this dropped today in my mailbox, the whole system is rigged and Citizens United has got to be repealed.
https://mail.yahoo.com/d/folders/1/messages/834259
DonтАЩt agree with the statement that Bernie caused what happened to him. I remember the DNC pushing Hillary , remember Donna Brazille ?(not sure I spelled her name correctly), and then Elizabeth Warren calling him sexist. Sheesh! No, the DNC wanted Hillary and that was the end of that.
The DNC wanted a Democrat as their nominee, not an Independent.
Yes, thatтАЩs true. But maybe thatтАЩs the problem. Bernie raised a lot of money from A LOT of people - he wasnтАЩt bought - but he wasnтАЩt a Democrat so he did not become the nominee - so how is that in the best interest of the voter??
In the hard work....autocorrect not my friend.