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I believe it would be wise if we stopped saying we’re trying to keep Maga Republicans from getting on ballots or citing insurrections. A stronger much more inclusive argument is that we’re trying to stop anyone with certain characteristics and qualities. We don’t care if they’re Republicans, Democrats, or aliens. I believe we need to think bigger and cast a wider net. thank you.

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So why can’t we??? We have some very lax laws that ever even allowed Trump to ever run. He should have been banned in 2016. He was a known conniver in the 80’s and 90’s when he forced himself on the public arena.

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Matt Gaetz has been investigated and has committed Federal Crimes, violation of he Mann act for one, Yet Garland has not even indicated a spossibility that Gaetz will be indicted, and he should have 2 years ago, is he waiting for a statute of limitations to run out, can Gaetz implicate some important people, judge or politician.

That Garland has done and wil do nothing about Gaetz, Indicates complicity or cowardice.

Gaez should be in prison, so Mssr Garland, why isn't he?

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I love the movement to ban Tя☭mp from being on the ballot in several states; but what would prevent states like Texas, TN, and GA from banning Biden? There’s no crime that I can think of that the MAGAts could use to make this happen, but these are the same people who believe that women who have abortions should be charged with murder.

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Great post today. We are finally seeing what happens when a media-created platform of lies meets the standards of the federal justice system, and it isn't pretty at all. Trump's lawyers requested a delay from the judge because, instead of doing legal work, they have to be on tv lying and distracting the public. This judge is going to show them, the media and the rest of us what law and order really looks like. Just imagine if Hillary was being federally prosecuted for stealing an election and she went on TV and said it's a matter of her free-speech rights. Can you just imagine this?

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I share you newsletter and Heather's but I never get a response from my friends. I guess they believe you don't talk politics or religion. Shameful!! Politics and now religion has a huge impact on the America and Americans.

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You really need to get rid of the electoral college. As long as it exists it gives the idiots hope that they can game the system and win - though not actually win. Also known as majority rule. While you are at it, letting the governing (ruling?) party run elections is third world. A non-partisan orginization is needed. None of this will happen. Now that djt has provided the proof of concept expect "the most important election in our lifetime" ad inifinitum until the right succeeds.

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This is a subject frequently discussed by many of us , who have asked repeatedly ,that this part of the 14 th Amendment be utilized for exactly what is was intended for.

The Magats can say anything they want to and of course they’ll all find a means to deny this application of the Fourteenth Amendment.

There is no possible misconstruction of this amendment to accommodate any twists or turns in meaning . It says what it means.

And it applies to Donald J Trump and his accomplices.

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And this is how it happens… when the courts don’t bring consequences to legislators who are clearly engaged in seditious conspiracy

From Law and Order: “A Georgia judge has rejected an effort to disqualify Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene from public office on Friday, finding her challengers did not prove that she violated the 14th Amendment’s prohibitions by engaging in the Jan. 6 insurrection.”

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Listen to episode 8 of Rachel Maddow’s ultra podcast Ultra Vires.

The last 12 minutes explain what happens when there is no access taken to bring accountability to fascist in our government.

They will work to end our democracy, and they will encourage violence to achieve their ends… which is to MAAWCN. Make America a White Christian Nation.

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Trump’s refusal and failure to stop the insurrection, as his oath of office required, made him not only an organizer, planner, and leader of the attack on our Capitol, but a necessary participant in the Insurrection.

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Here is an insane idea from the Bulwark JVL or Jonathan V Last https://thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/the-keynesian-case-for-pardoning?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Analogizes the Versaille Treaty to Pardoing Trump. You have to read the whole link

JVL says: That if we don't pardon Trump we are setting ourselves up for a civil war.

There is no comparison. Germany had resources that Trump doesn't have, even with an inflamed mob.

But he misses an important fact, or glosses over it. On 20 December 1924, having served only nine months (for the beer hall putsch), Hitler was released (pardoned ) Once released, Hitler redirected his focus towards obtaining power through legal means rather than by revolution or force, and accordingly changed his tactics, further developing Nazi propaganda.(wikipedia, Beer hall putsch)

It was pardoning of Hitler, that saw the rise of fascism. That and he was only given 5 years, when he should have been given life.

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If we the people fail to rise up and demand that the miscreants named in your report, and many more that aren't named, are banned from political office, well, then we deserve to have them as our representatives! Why do we allow these GOP terrorists to continue to poison the foundations of democracy? Now that they are publicly threatening to kill us, I'd say it was time to act aggressively to put the GOP out of business once and for all. This would be a good time to hear from Biden and Garland on this matter! Of course that won't happen in any meaningful way, because we don't really have a democracy in this country. It's an Oligarchy, and the oligarchs love Trump because he distracts attention from the rackets the corporate kleptocrats are running via the banking system and the military/industrial/congressional establishment. A democracy would be nice, but when a fascist asshole like Trump ends up in the White House, commits a slew of crimes, including insurrection, and is still walking around loose, it doesn't take a genius to see that the Rule of Law has been bent in favor of the rich, not extended impartially for the benefit of the Common Good as the Constitution intends.

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Better to use the All Writs Act than to file a law suit. The text of the 14th amendment prohibits placing on the ballot any who have "...engaged in...insurrection...". The duty of the secretary of state of each state is (among others) to follow state and federal law, including clear constitutional statements. The Writ of Mandamus, an ex parte proceeding, can and should be used. Simply file a motion for a writ in the appropriate court of jurisdiction. It is an ex parte proceeding that I have used successfully.

An order from the court will provide the Secretary of State with a shield from political blow-back, something every politician likes when taking a prospectively unpopular (with his or her constituents) action.

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Thom, did you write this post so you could get people to look at mine today, an Open Letter to Trump that offers him a deal where he'd have to never run again to get it. Make any suggestions to make the letter better! https://suzannetaylor.substack.com/p/saving-trump-could-be-saving-ourselves

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