Trump seems to be more Putin’s useful idiot than anything else. I’m sure he has given Putin information that would be very helpful to Putin and very damaging to us for Putin to have it. I think he has also disclosed information to the Saudis.
Trump likes money and the money for high end real estate comes from oligarchs aligned with Putin, or Saudis etc.
its just that simple, and Jared said so himself about their businesses.
what was never really brought home to the public is that we got the patriot act and with it all kinds of anti-money-laundering checks that we didn't have before the patriot act, and even through that there is a wide net cast It never really was effective at stopping corrupt money from getting into real estate
and we all have to understand - as it didn't get emphasized enough during the initial media coverage - that in general Russian money is dirty money and can't be used to open accounts in the United States.
True, and the Brits were also welcoming Russian oligarchs to invest in City banks and in pricey real estate until they realized it came at too high a price. Putin also encouraged the Brexit movement, which has been one of the greatest financial disasters the UK has ever inflicted upon itself.
Right it's well known that there's been a lot of efforts at election manipulation, and the specific elections in Europe that Manafort and his operatives were involved with are now well documented...the Russians have been known broadly to have had strong influence campaigns operating in various elections in European countries, and in Europe theres a heightened concern.
In report by the Special Committee on Foreign Interference in all Democratic Processes in the European Union.
FBI director James b Comey sabotaged Hillary's election more in my opinion than Putin. I think they are both guilty and almost all the other rich around the world. If Putin did not have so much oil and natural gas, the Russians and even the Saudis would be just another third world bankrupt nation. The right wing so-called leaders, have no clue on how to govern a civilized society with few resources. That includes our own GOP. The most damage Trump has done in my humble opinion, he has turned my neighbors into a bunch of violent fascist wannabes who gleefully will turn America into another third world failed capitalist Nation.
Welcome to the "End Times": Peter Turchin saw this coming — and says we can still prevent collapse
It fits within Thom's exposition on the 80 year cycle
And then there is this, Bidens DHS is monitoring harassing and arresting pro environmentalists and opponents of a police state instead of the real threat to Democracy, the Republican Party, neo NAZIs, Klan and Militia like Proud Boys and Constitutional Sheriffs. https://www.justsecurity.org/86876/dhss-newest-target-atlanta-cop-city-activists/
I am returning an article illustrating the truth about the UK’s ruling class: like the example Turchin gives of Egypt being a primarily military tyranny Britain is run by and for its Military Intelligence elite.
This shockingly inhumane Northern Ireland Legacy Bill will not only gift full amnesty to all UK state criminals operating during British military Operation Banner (1969-2007) counter insurgency civil war in Ireland but set an international legal precedent that will give a green light to roll back on hardwon human rights progress in developing countries.
When they pass this legislation in a few days Great Britain will have officially become a rogue state.
Let me tell you something about England. First facts.
Charles II was a man of many addictions. His first was gambling, second drinking, third was Barbara Villiers. Barbara was a cousin of George Villiers. George was the favorite of James I/VI
Charles addictions caused him to be bankrupt.
So he went to the East India Company to get a loan, in return they asked that the investors receive a monopoly charter as the Bank of England, the East India Company retained it's royal charter.
Charles gifted the castle Henry VIII built for Katherine Howard, which he named Nonesuch, to Barbara, who in turn sold it off stone by stone.
Charles soon ran out of cash again, Back this time to the Bank of England for a re up
This time they demanded collateral, so Charles put up the royal jewels, including the Orb and Sceptre which are the symbols of sovereignty, meaning the Bank of England was now sovereign, and the Exchequer actually works for the Bank of England. It was the excheguer who
put a tax on goods imported by the Colonies, and it was Lord Townshend, was a patron of Adam Smith (Wealth of Nations and Theory of Moral Sentiment) that produced the Stamp Act, which gave the British East India Company, the means of enforcing the import taxes that they had the King sign. Which led to rich Boston merchants being forced into smuggling, which was a capitol offense, the most prominent and well known (to the crown) of the smugglers was John Hancock.
The excuse given for the taxes was that Britain had sent it's troops to protect the Colonists, while what they were really protecting was that portion of their Empire from France.
BTW, the new Bank of England, experienced a run on its gold, and the bank panicked.
There solution was to hire as Warden of the Mint, a famous and popular alchemist, name of Isaac Newton, that calmed the fears of the depositors.
By the way, the common man, especially in Virginia, did not initially support the revolution, as they had no desire to replace one class of overlords (the British), with another (the Tidewater Aristocracy) so they had to be bullied and propagandized into supporting the revolution.
Thus the Virginia would be nobility (the Tidewater Aristocracy, most of whom were planters with thousands of slaves. Formed a Committee of Public Safety, to monitor loyalists, boycott and punish them, including tar and feather and running them out of the community on a rail.
The propaganda effort was purchasing the works of the likes of Thomas Paine (Common Sense and The Rights of Man) printed in Philadelphia by Ben Franklin and Rittenhouse.
The propaganda worked, too well for the aristocracy, because their motive for joining the revolution was ti become the nobility in this new country. The people would have none of replacing a foreign overlord for a home grown overlord. So the aristocracy hid behind the 17th Century of a gated community. plantation homes, located at the end of a long private road, that was not visible to the public traversing main thorough fares.
They quickly learned that they could better enjoy the perks of being an invisible royalty, and continued to rule the slave states, but not conspicuously as to evoke suspicion and resentment from the public. They subsidized the press and the pulpit, to create a servile society.
And still do. The invisible hand, is money. Money buys loyalty, money buys propaganda, money buys sheriffs and police to keep the rabble in their place.
The Committee for Public Safety worked so well, that French Revolutionaries, and the Bolsheviks adopted it and even the name.
My opinion is that, when the Bank of England became sovereign, is when a professional army was created, for one purpose to project power around the world, and provide a healthy return on investment.
Succinct and tragic. As many are beginning to notice, the English, having spent centuries invading, stealing and abusing Others for easy vast personal wealth creation profiteering are running out of countries to exploit and so are presently turning to exploiting their own. The British ruling establishment safe in the knowledge that the binding ideology of ‘knowing and staying in your class’ system ensures such criminal behaviour will never be challenged. Coming full circle recently with employees at The British Museum helping themselves to artefacts plundered by Empire privateers and selling them on…🐈⬛
Seems kind of interesting to note that United States companies, and United States systems that tie into various surveillance projects of the CIA and the federal government, are inherently involved, I'm talking about our technology companies like Facebook. This is what was used by the Russian operatives and their internet research bureau. It was our own companies, and the guys who has been most instrumental in starting a lot of these companies are our own oligarchs like Mercer and his company who have the highest access to the data, or Peter Thiel who has been the single largest donator to trumps campaigns.
Yes, Trump is a traitor and has been for a long time. In other breaking news, water is still wet, and sun continues to rise in the east.
Ethel Rosenberg was guilty of being married to Julius, who was guilty of liking her brother, David Greenglass, the real Moscow spy at Los Alamos, who cut a deal with the FBI to give them his sister and brother-in-law in return for letting him off for his actual treason.
There were no "Atomic secrets" once the news of the bomb actually working became known. Anyone with a college freshman physics book could read what had to be done to make a bomb. The only question was who had the resources to create the industrial base necessary to do the job.
And the Atomic bomb didn't end World War II. The day the Nagasaki bomb was dropped (after failing all the rules set for doing so, since the crew had the choice of either dropping on a radar ID or dropping it in the ocean since they were so short of fuel they ran dry on the runway at Okinawa - so instead of dropping it on the Mitsubishi factory, they dropped it on the Urakami Catholic Church, the largest Christian church in Asia, built following the legalization of Christianity in Japan in the Meiji Restoration; Nagasaki had been the most anti-imperial city in Japan for 300 years, back to when the Shogunate destroyed Christianiaty in the 17th century) the Japanese War Cabinet paid no attention to the event, since they were worried about the real threat: the USSR had declared war that day, and had advanced 120 miles into Manchuria, since all the good units of the Kwantung Army had been transferred to Kyushu to meet the threatened American invasion. The reason Japan surrendered to us when they did was because they knew the Red Army would have been able to invade Hokkaido in September, where there were no defenses, and that the Soviets would have been in Tokyo before the US invaded Kyushu. Since they knew what had been done by the Soviets in Germany, they surrendered to us and then said "Yassuh, boss, that bomb was what done it," allowing them to play the role of "atomic victim" for the past 79 years while we have based our foreign and military power on a weapon no one who was sane could ever use
It is not so hard to make an atomic bomb if you can get a hold of the ingredients
almost 40 years ago I had an employee George Harper, who wrote some books, and authored
a short story ihttps://www.blackgate.com/2019/04/16/the-golden-age-of-science-fiction-build-your-own-a-bomb-and-wake-up-the-neighborhood-by-george-w-harper/
He was visited by the FBI, he showed them that he got his info from abailable public sources.
Trump and the Republican party are traitors, real Benedict Arnolds.. Unfortunately they will go unpunished, because the party that could hold them accountable and its leader are feckless cowards, and there is a whole industry of apologists that lead the wishful thinkers by the nose, until like the Mueller Report, you wind up with a nothing burger because Mueller was compromised from the onset. And yet the apologists let it slide.
The Court system has allowed a great deal of freedom to a man who is apparently guilty of massive crimes against this Country . Take his passport. Stop treating him as special . Treat him like any other person who demonstrates this disregard for our National Security.
It would be great to design a data analytics program that shows on a chart how someone like Matt taibbi creates not one but several right-wing narratives, puts them forth on right wing "libertarian" outlets and while he pretends to be aligned with the liberal readers of Rolling Stone.
Spent much time during pandemic reviewing podcasts and discerning how many supposedly liberal outlets that are very popular are putting out really bad garbage. Ezra Klein became popular and profitable at vox and went to nyt to do more lame distracting pretentious shows sbout very little substance but that sound intellectual. Perhaps the worst though is taibbi who is superficial, dumbed-down and cynical. On the law side there's folks like preet bharara who took time away from his values-free analysis of court cases to explain how "fascism" doesn't exist in America and never did. (Of course, old Preet never seem to feel the need to read any Pulitzer Prize winning books about the most important aspects of history!) Whew we have some really unsophisticated analyses in some of these shows!
We see a trend that continued and now is evidenced throughout big money media - more stories about republicans, more use of red color on tv, and more material that ties into their narratives.
There was an exchange involving Dan Goldman on Twitter, right after the Senate intelligence report was released by the committee headed by Rubio. The report had much more detail than the Mueller report about all of the campaign activities with Russian operatives, and when issued it was signed off by all of the republican as well as democratic members of the senate intelligence committee.
Chairman Rubio crassly put out a tweet stating that the report confirmed that there was "no collusion" and immediately Dan Goldman went on Twitter and informed the world that there was over 100 pages of collusion in that report (only evident if one were to actually read it) - all signed off by Rubio, inckuding details of how the confidential campaign data was sent to kilimnick.
With a background in US financial services law it was striking to me that from the very beginning people here, without any regulatory background, were not informed that all Russian money is dirty money under anti-money-laundering laws.
Of course, we've seen the real estate sector where the treasury departments rules did not adequately cover the use of real estate through shell companies to shelter dirty money in the United States, but the thing you have to remember is that even the Cayman Islands and other jurisdictions known for shady practices, have all kinds of rules that allow people in conforming jurisdictions to do legitimate anti-money laundering checks. Whereas Russia does not, and money that comes out of Russia can't be used to open financial accounts in the United States.
Another really basic point that you learn from reading the Senate intelligence report is that kilimnick and Manafort were in one business. It was a business of election interference in political manipulation.
So if Manafort as trumps campaign manager sends campaign data to his Russian spy, in Ukraine, and the only business they do there is to manipulate elections on behalf of Russian oligarchs and their funded political projects ,,,,, then what the heck do you think he sent the data there for? So much detail in the report. Remember that Manafort offered to work as trumps campaign chair for free, and that he also owned a trump tower apt.
I mean this really is just so basic that it it's just so striking and astounding what crass liars people like Matt Taibbi are - and you can see that his work just doesn't just extend to this topic but if it extends to anti-VAX and Covid-source China bashing in the mould of Tom cotton.
In my embrace of the podcast media I took the Sam Harris v Noam Chomsky debate as a watershed moment where a slick charlatan like Harris was shown to be so superficial. I'm not sure it came out through any of the direct discussions about their debate, it's possibly secondary materials that reveal this - Harris claimed very one-sidedly that human activities are fully determined by previous experiences, making human choice and freedom illusory - but he seemed to have failed to take account of any of Chomsky's entire area of work on the human faculties for language.
From what I've read, Putin's father had a relationship with the KGB, and 12 year old Vladimir knew that was what he wanted to do for a career. He did it---became head of the organization. He was the spymaster. Now he is master of the spymaster, the oligarchs, and all Russians. Cross him and it's prison, poison, or assassination. Trump knows, hell everybody knows.
Trump has been surrounded by Russians and their money for decades. Nothing secret about any of it, so why has he lied about that? Simple answer is that he is a psychopath that creates his world in the minute. No one and nothing matters in the real world because he is not in it. He and Putin share that trait.
Don't believe what Thom has written? Try reading some more on these two. It tracks, and so do the resulting deaths. The Devil better watch out when they arrive.
Our national security agencies (CIA, NSA, FBI et al.) are not that dumb. In fact, they are quite smart and capable of staying 3-10 steps ahead of Trump et al. So, here's what's really been happening; our CIA, military has been feeding Trump a bunch of B.S. that looks and sounds real. Documents? Nothing that's really sensitive, Top Secret gets put on paper and certainly we didn't give Trump anything other than 'Calais' evidence. Those spies Trump 'burned'? We wanted to burn them. Trump has been our pawn for decades. And yes, he will pay the price, along with his posse and the rest of the Epstein Cabal. Biggest 'Sting' operation ever.
Trump wasn't flipped, this is who he is and has been a rapist, a prevaricator an ignoramus, but deadly he knows how to buy his way out of trouble, and his friendship with Epstein was to get blackmail info, while enjoying teen age girls.
He has always been what he is, he has never flipped.
We should remember that empires do not just cease to exist but fade out over genations. From what you have written, it is clear that that the USSR is still around but in a different form. We should not let our guard down. Any political party catering to the neo-Soviet interests should also be clearly called out!
I've personally learned and shared a great deal from Thom over the years, really, since about 2004, and the Hartmann Report. There is so much I respect and admire about Thom's knowledge of American History and politics, and his ability to communicate it in a manner that likely connects with people from many backgrounds who choose to listen. I particularly liked, over the years, the 'Lunch with Bernie' segments.
However, I've got to question WHY this site persists with the Trump/Russia collusion narrative that has been proven to be an invention of the HRC campaign? Trump has been arrested because he clearly took the documents (as did President Biden and former VP Pence, and probably many others). Trump MAY have shared them with random unimportant others, and he refused to turn them over when repeatedly ordered to do so, allegedly. This emails asks, "But what if it goes beyond that? What if Putin has owned him for years? The narrative that says that Trump was collaborating in SOME way with Putin was invented by, ordered to be invented by Hillary Clinton. This is a fact.
I think that media that continue to pursue and amplify this narrative in the context of these accepted facts, including Thom, hurts their credibility.
How about focusing upon investigating the government lies and coverup of the pandemic origins?
I, and many who read this blog, judging by their comments, trust Thom's long journalistic experience. When a journalist feels they're onto something, they pursue it. What he's sharing here is instinctual information that may never end up in public hands, because it's blocked as being secret at the highest levels, but he feels the public has a right to know. And you would prefer that he cover the quagmire surrounding the pandemic?? That's an abyss that would have us running around in circles. No thanks, I prefer to know as much as possible about Russian infiltration into American society.
Ah hah, a MAGA troll, deflecting and changing the subject. Damn right Russia was in on it, and Putin and Trump are joined at the hip. The pandemic origins are not an important subject, in case you haven't noticed, neither is the Spanish flu.
It's not easy to hit more than 4 of the current false right wing narratives in one swing, and still create false lefty persona. Stripping out the standard pedo and antisemitic tropes helps. The last part is over the top because it ties to taibbi who is exposed in the article. But it includes a good idea - focusing more on nature and science instead of Tom cotton's China-bashing theories. Elsewhere it's not - but may be a little bit of a stretch in this learned forum to get people to believe in conspiracy theories that contradict high school level science.
Not nearly as much as the echo chamber media that obsesses about the symptoms instead of the causes, resulting in an electorate that can tell misinformation from reality because they are fed the Trump reality show 24/7. The problem being what can we as citizens do about Trump? There is nothing actionable in the countless hours of commiserating about Trump's misdeeds and somehow tying them to Putin to provide cover for a rudderless Democratic Party. I am far more concerned about Biden selling a record number of weapons or war around the globe and particularly that almost 60% of these weapons went to autocracies. This is the greatest threat to democracy Thom, and it will do far more damage than even your and much of the media's insistence on giving Trump the gift of the spotlight that he craves.
Are you saying it doesn't bother you that the echo chamber that is the billionaire-owned media is doing everything it can to return fascist Trump to power? Are you unable to see where that will lead, and the consequences for the ordinary citizen? Weapons sales done in the public eye will continue as long as the military-industrial complex buys politicians of whatever stripe, but a far greater threat to democracy would be allowing the Putin/Trump combo to be reelected.
Great retort to our resident Putinist. So long as humans are what they are, greedy, needy, fearful, hateful there will always be a need for an armaments industry. Either that or just lay down, expose your throat and wait for the boot and knife. "Peace at any price".?
Meanwhile Mssr Kaufman would have us chasing our tails around the mulberry bush, in pursuit of some irrelevant bullshit.
I am saying that even Thom Hartmann is doing so by focusing on Trump in lieu of the problems that are allowing his ascendance. The premise that Putin is somehow working with Trump is a Democratic Party trope that excuses the party's utter incompetence and corporate inservitude. I would guarantee that World War III and/or nuclear annihilation because Biden refuses to consider diplomacy and will not even speak to the Russian ambassador will be much more rapid than the downward spiral resulting from another Trump presidency. The greatest threat is not always the one that appears to be the most obvious, and this is a two-party system, one that espouses theocratic fascism and the other comprised of imperialist oligarchs. That is not to say Trump is not a threat, but liberal fear and paranoia feeds his power. You are charging that monster with electricity, not me,.
The only person I know of that allleges Putin is working with the Democratic party is you. Thanks for the advance disinfo campaign.
Interesting that you divide the theocratic fascists from the imperialist oligarchs, when in fact the are one and the same, and there home is the Republican party.
Of course the plutocrats have their finders in both parties, but their major contributions (money ad media) are the Republican party, who has always championed tax cuts for the plutocrats, and reduced standard of living for the rest of us. I guess you never read any of Thom's writings on Lewis Powelll and the degradation of Democracy.
"There is nothing actionable in the countless hours of commiserating about Trump's misdeeds and somehow tying them to Putin to provide cover for a rudderless Democratic Party"
While I agree about the Democratic party, there is plenty actionable about Trump.
I share concerns about the MIC, but what you are campaigning for at this time, is the annihilation of a country(Ukraine) by a right wing dictator, a h omophobe, misogynist, a NAZI in all but name.
Putin’s invasion of Ukraine has been a huge miscalculation on his part. He didn’t expect Ukraine to fight back, or for it to get the support of most of the EU nations and the United States. Ultimately, Putin’s miscalculation may very well put his own regime at risk. I don’t agree with those Americans who support Putin, beginning with his useful idiot Donald J. Trump.
In plain sight. Thanks for the reminders, and stuff I should have known by don’t remember . . . the program is to make so much crap happen that a functioning profitable society can’t even keep up with it.
And how much property and wealth does P and his criminal cadre own and control in the USA? My bet is that SCOTUS cases have made it next to impossible to know.
-- reading [ Senator ] Sheldon Whitehouse’s ‘The Scheme,’ tough going, every chapter enraging yet calmly factual . . . raging and snorting, b.rad
Trump seems to be more Putin’s useful idiot than anything else. I’m sure he has given Putin information that would be very helpful to Putin and very damaging to us for Putin to have it. I think he has also disclosed information to the Saudis.
He needs to be locked up and silenced. Never again should he get close to the White House for any secrets.
apparently djt doesn't have to show up @ the wh...he will make america
fake again...behind bars😤😪
Trump likes money and the money for high end real estate comes from oligarchs aligned with Putin, or Saudis etc.
its just that simple, and Jared said so himself about their businesses.
what was never really brought home to the public is that we got the patriot act and with it all kinds of anti-money-laundering checks that we didn't have before the patriot act, and even through that there is a wide net cast It never really was effective at stopping corrupt money from getting into real estate
and we all have to understand - as it didn't get emphasized enough during the initial media coverage - that in general Russian money is dirty money and can't be used to open accounts in the United States.
True, and the Brits were also welcoming Russian oligarchs to invest in City banks and in pricey real estate until they realized it came at too high a price. Putin also encouraged the Brexit movement, which has been one of the greatest financial disasters the UK has ever inflicted upon itself.
Right it's well known that there's been a lot of efforts at election manipulation, and the specific elections in Europe that Manafort and his operatives were involved with are now well documented...the Russians have been known broadly to have had strong influence campaigns operating in various elections in European countries, and in Europe theres a heightened concern.
In report by the Special Committee on Foreign Interference in all Democratic Processes in the European Union.
https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/meps-call-urgent-protection-2024-european-elections.1035146
FBI director James b Comey sabotaged Hillary's election more in my opinion than Putin. I think they are both guilty and almost all the other rich around the world. If Putin did not have so much oil and natural gas, the Russians and even the Saudis would be just another third world bankrupt nation. The right wing so-called leaders, have no clue on how to govern a civilized society with few resources. That includes our own GOP. The most damage Trump has done in my humble opinion, he has turned my neighbors into a bunch of violent fascist wannabes who gleefully will turn America into another third world failed capitalist Nation.
I apologize for plugging other sources, but this article from Salon is worth the time to read
https://www.salon.com/2023/06/13/welcome-to-the-end-times-peter-turchin-saw-this-coming--and-says-we-can-still-prevent-collapse/?lh_aid=3594738&lh_cid=pym4c78hy5&lh_em=myocicats@gmail.com&di=166fe6973b637fa5aa868c6d1ecb650f Welcome to the "End Times": Peter Turchin saw this coming — and says we can still prevent collapse.
Welcome to the "End Times": Peter Turchin saw this coming — and says we can still prevent collapse
It fits within Thom's exposition on the 80 year cycle
And then there is this, Bidens DHS is monitoring harassing and arresting pro environmentalists and opponents of a police state instead of the real threat to Democracy, the Republican Party, neo NAZIs, Klan and Militia like Proud Boys and Constitutional Sheriffs. https://www.justsecurity.org/86876/dhss-newest-target-atlanta-cop-city-activists/
Thanks for this Turchin article. Spot on.
I am returning an article illustrating the truth about the UK’s ruling class: like the example Turchin gives of Egypt being a primarily military tyranny Britain is run by and for its Military Intelligence elite.
This shockingly inhumane Northern Ireland Legacy Bill will not only gift full amnesty to all UK state criminals operating during British military Operation Banner (1969-2007) counter insurgency civil war in Ireland but set an international legal precedent that will give a green light to roll back on hardwon human rights progress in developing countries.
When they pass this legislation in a few days Great Britain will have officially become a rogue state.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/features/2023/9/6/justice-denied-victims-families-slam-uks-northern-ireland-legacy-bill
Holy crap.
Let me tell you something about England. First facts.
Charles II was a man of many addictions. His first was gambling, second drinking, third was Barbara Villiers. Barbara was a cousin of George Villiers. George was the favorite of James I/VI
Charles addictions caused him to be bankrupt.
So he went to the East India Company to get a loan, in return they asked that the investors receive a monopoly charter as the Bank of England, the East India Company retained it's royal charter.
Charles gifted the castle Henry VIII built for Katherine Howard, which he named Nonesuch, to Barbara, who in turn sold it off stone by stone.
Charles soon ran out of cash again, Back this time to the Bank of England for a re up
This time they demanded collateral, so Charles put up the royal jewels, including the Orb and Sceptre which are the symbols of sovereignty, meaning the Bank of England was now sovereign, and the Exchequer actually works for the Bank of England. It was the excheguer who
put a tax on goods imported by the Colonies, and it was Lord Townshend, was a patron of Adam Smith (Wealth of Nations and Theory of Moral Sentiment) that produced the Stamp Act, which gave the British East India Company, the means of enforcing the import taxes that they had the King sign. Which led to rich Boston merchants being forced into smuggling, which was a capitol offense, the most prominent and well known (to the crown) of the smugglers was John Hancock.
The excuse given for the taxes was that Britain had sent it's troops to protect the Colonists, while what they were really protecting was that portion of their Empire from France.
BTW, the new Bank of England, experienced a run on its gold, and the bank panicked.
There solution was to hire as Warden of the Mint, a famous and popular alchemist, name of Isaac Newton, that calmed the fears of the depositors.
By the way, the common man, especially in Virginia, did not initially support the revolution, as they had no desire to replace one class of overlords (the British), with another (the Tidewater Aristocracy) so they had to be bullied and propagandized into supporting the revolution.
Thus the Virginia would be nobility (the Tidewater Aristocracy, most of whom were planters with thousands of slaves. Formed a Committee of Public Safety, to monitor loyalists, boycott and punish them, including tar and feather and running them out of the community on a rail.
The propaganda effort was purchasing the works of the likes of Thomas Paine (Common Sense and The Rights of Man) printed in Philadelphia by Ben Franklin and Rittenhouse.
The propaganda worked, too well for the aristocracy, because their motive for joining the revolution was ti become the nobility in this new country. The people would have none of replacing a foreign overlord for a home grown overlord. So the aristocracy hid behind the 17th Century of a gated community. plantation homes, located at the end of a long private road, that was not visible to the public traversing main thorough fares.
They quickly learned that they could better enjoy the perks of being an invisible royalty, and continued to rule the slave states, but not conspicuously as to evoke suspicion and resentment from the public. They subsidized the press and the pulpit, to create a servile society.
And still do. The invisible hand, is money. Money buys loyalty, money buys propaganda, money buys sheriffs and police to keep the rabble in their place.
The Committee for Public Safety worked so well, that French Revolutionaries, and the Bolsheviks adopted it and even the name.
My opinion is that, when the Bank of England became sovereign, is when a professional army was created, for one purpose to project power around the world, and provide a healthy return on investment.
Succinct and tragic. As many are beginning to notice, the English, having spent centuries invading, stealing and abusing Others for easy vast personal wealth creation profiteering are running out of countries to exploit and so are presently turning to exploiting their own. The British ruling establishment safe in the knowledge that the binding ideology of ‘knowing and staying in your class’ system ensures such criminal behaviour will never be challenged. Coming full circle recently with employees at The British Museum helping themselves to artefacts plundered by Empire privateers and selling them on…🐈⬛
I read about Peter Turchin in Atlantic and I think he’s onto something. This article is great too, and thank you for giving the link.
Seems kind of interesting to note that United States companies, and United States systems that tie into various surveillance projects of the CIA and the federal government, are inherently involved, I'm talking about our technology companies like Facebook. This is what was used by the Russian operatives and their internet research bureau. It was our own companies, and the guys who has been most instrumental in starting a lot of these companies are our own oligarchs like Mercer and his company who have the highest access to the data, or Peter Thiel who has been the single largest donator to trumps campaigns.
Yes, Trump is a traitor and has been for a long time. In other breaking news, water is still wet, and sun continues to rise in the east.
Ethel Rosenberg was guilty of being married to Julius, who was guilty of liking her brother, David Greenglass, the real Moscow spy at Los Alamos, who cut a deal with the FBI to give them his sister and brother-in-law in return for letting him off for his actual treason.
There were no "Atomic secrets" once the news of the bomb actually working became known. Anyone with a college freshman physics book could read what had to be done to make a bomb. The only question was who had the resources to create the industrial base necessary to do the job.
And the Atomic bomb didn't end World War II. The day the Nagasaki bomb was dropped (after failing all the rules set for doing so, since the crew had the choice of either dropping on a radar ID or dropping it in the ocean since they were so short of fuel they ran dry on the runway at Okinawa - so instead of dropping it on the Mitsubishi factory, they dropped it on the Urakami Catholic Church, the largest Christian church in Asia, built following the legalization of Christianity in Japan in the Meiji Restoration; Nagasaki had been the most anti-imperial city in Japan for 300 years, back to when the Shogunate destroyed Christianiaty in the 17th century) the Japanese War Cabinet paid no attention to the event, since they were worried about the real threat: the USSR had declared war that day, and had advanced 120 miles into Manchuria, since all the good units of the Kwantung Army had been transferred to Kyushu to meet the threatened American invasion. The reason Japan surrendered to us when they did was because they knew the Red Army would have been able to invade Hokkaido in September, where there were no defenses, and that the Soviets would have been in Tokyo before the US invaded Kyushu. Since they knew what had been done by the Soviets in Germany, they surrendered to us and then said "Yassuh, boss, that bomb was what done it," allowing them to play the role of "atomic victim" for the past 79 years while we have based our foreign and military power on a weapon no one who was sane could ever use
Absolutely agrees with everything that I know.
It is not so hard to make an atomic bomb if you can get a hold of the ingredients
almost 40 years ago I had an employee George Harper, who wrote some books, and authored
a short story ihttps://www.blackgate.com/2019/04/16/the-golden-age-of-science-fiction-build-your-own-a-bomb-and-wake-up-the-neighborhood-by-george-w-harper/
He was visited by the FBI, he showed them that he got his info from abailable public sources.
Trump and the Republican party are traitors, real Benedict Arnolds.. Unfortunately they will go unpunished, because the party that could hold them accountable and its leader are feckless cowards, and there is a whole industry of apologists that lead the wishful thinkers by the nose, until like the Mueller Report, you wind up with a nothing burger because Mueller was compromised from the onset. And yet the apologists let it slide.
This article is so frightening! And the people who should read it won’t. They’re too busy trying to trash Joe Biden.
Thanks, Hartmann. I've been trying to assemble information on Trump's Russian involvement, and this a greatly detailed discussion.
The core source document is here.
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume3.pdf
The Court system has allowed a great deal of freedom to a man who is apparently guilty of massive crimes against this Country . Take his passport. Stop treating him as special . Treat him like any other person who demonstrates this disregard for our National Security.
It would be great to design a data analytics program that shows on a chart how someone like Matt taibbi creates not one but several right-wing narratives, puts them forth on right wing "libertarian" outlets and while he pretends to be aligned with the liberal readers of Rolling Stone.
Spent much time during pandemic reviewing podcasts and discerning how many supposedly liberal outlets that are very popular are putting out really bad garbage. Ezra Klein became popular and profitable at vox and went to nyt to do more lame distracting pretentious shows sbout very little substance but that sound intellectual. Perhaps the worst though is taibbi who is superficial, dumbed-down and cynical. On the law side there's folks like preet bharara who took time away from his values-free analysis of court cases to explain how "fascism" doesn't exist in America and never did. (Of course, old Preet never seem to feel the need to read any Pulitzer Prize winning books about the most important aspects of history!) Whew we have some really unsophisticated analyses in some of these shows!
We see a trend that continued and now is evidenced throughout big money media - more stories about republicans, more use of red color on tv, and more material that ties into their narratives.
There was an exchange involving Dan Goldman on Twitter, right after the Senate intelligence report was released by the committee headed by Rubio. The report had much more detail than the Mueller report about all of the campaign activities with Russian operatives, and when issued it was signed off by all of the republican as well as democratic members of the senate intelligence committee.
Chairman Rubio crassly put out a tweet stating that the report confirmed that there was "no collusion" and immediately Dan Goldman went on Twitter and informed the world that there was over 100 pages of collusion in that report (only evident if one were to actually read it) - all signed off by Rubio, inckuding details of how the confidential campaign data was sent to kilimnick.
With a background in US financial services law it was striking to me that from the very beginning people here, without any regulatory background, were not informed that all Russian money is dirty money under anti-money-laundering laws.
Of course, we've seen the real estate sector where the treasury departments rules did not adequately cover the use of real estate through shell companies to shelter dirty money in the United States, but the thing you have to remember is that even the Cayman Islands and other jurisdictions known for shady practices, have all kinds of rules that allow people in conforming jurisdictions to do legitimate anti-money laundering checks. Whereas Russia does not, and money that comes out of Russia can't be used to open financial accounts in the United States.
Another really basic point that you learn from reading the Senate intelligence report is that kilimnick and Manafort were in one business. It was a business of election interference in political manipulation.
So if Manafort as trumps campaign manager sends campaign data to his Russian spy, in Ukraine, and the only business they do there is to manipulate elections on behalf of Russian oligarchs and their funded political projects ,,,,, then what the heck do you think he sent the data there for? So much detail in the report. Remember that Manafort offered to work as trumps campaign chair for free, and that he also owned a trump tower apt.
I mean this really is just so basic that it it's just so striking and astounding what crass liars people like Matt Taibbi are - and you can see that his work just doesn't just extend to this topic but if it extends to anti-VAX and Covid-source China bashing in the mould of Tom cotton.
In my embrace of the podcast media I took the Sam Harris v Noam Chomsky debate as a watershed moment where a slick charlatan like Harris was shown to be so superficial. I'm not sure it came out through any of the direct discussions about their debate, it's possibly secondary materials that reveal this - Harris claimed very one-sidedly that human activities are fully determined by previous experiences, making human choice and freedom illusory - but he seemed to have failed to take account of any of Chomsky's entire area of work on the human faculties for language.
From what I've read, Putin's father had a relationship with the KGB, and 12 year old Vladimir knew that was what he wanted to do for a career. He did it---became head of the organization. He was the spymaster. Now he is master of the spymaster, the oligarchs, and all Russians. Cross him and it's prison, poison, or assassination. Trump knows, hell everybody knows.
Trump has been surrounded by Russians and their money for decades. Nothing secret about any of it, so why has he lied about that? Simple answer is that he is a psychopath that creates his world in the minute. No one and nothing matters in the real world because he is not in it. He and Putin share that trait.
Don't believe what Thom has written? Try reading some more on these two. It tracks, and so do the resulting deaths. The Devil better watch out when they arrive.
It all makes sense. All the lies and prevarications.
Rand Paul as lackey .
All the willingness by fellow Republicans to ok outrageous breaches and blame the Democrats.
All this time that the FBI and CIA were wringing their hands about what they thought might be happening.
Why could he not be stopped.
He has caused tremendous damage to the United States and the entire world.
He and Putin (joined at the hip )caused incredible evil acts to be routine.
He is a Traitor , no question.
Trump is to Putin as trump defenders and enablers are to Trump. All fearful about what happens if they don’t comply with their Evil Dictators.
Trump has threatened and tripped up people who disagreed w him.
No stone left unturned to promote and foist Authoritarianism on this Nation.
Our national security agencies (CIA, NSA, FBI et al.) are not that dumb. In fact, they are quite smart and capable of staying 3-10 steps ahead of Trump et al. So, here's what's really been happening; our CIA, military has been feeding Trump a bunch of B.S. that looks and sounds real. Documents? Nothing that's really sensitive, Top Secret gets put on paper and certainly we didn't give Trump anything other than 'Calais' evidence. Those spies Trump 'burned'? We wanted to burn them. Trump has been our pawn for decades. And yes, he will pay the price, along with his posse and the rest of the Epstein Cabal. Biggest 'Sting' operation ever.
What's the weather like there in IdiotWorld, where the grass is blue and the sky is green?
Please keep your comments civil. Thank you.
Really? The CIA is playing Trump? Really, Meanwhile the DHS is targeting progressives https://www.justsecurity.org/86876/dhss-newest-target-atlanta-cop-city-activists/
Has our ginger died and a Putin bot taken her place.
No William. Trump was up in it all so deep they flipped him. I know the dude from way back. Courtesy of the real ‘Surfermom77’.
Trump wasn't flipped, this is who he is and has been a rapist, a prevaricator an ignoramus, but deadly he knows how to buy his way out of trouble, and his friendship with Epstein was to get blackmail info, while enjoying teen age girls.
He has always been what he is, he has never flipped.
A great synopsis of the key points!
We should remember that empires do not just cease to exist but fade out over genations. From what you have written, it is clear that that the USSR is still around but in a different form. We should not let our guard down. Any political party catering to the neo-Soviet interests should also be clearly called out!
I've personally learned and shared a great deal from Thom over the years, really, since about 2004, and the Hartmann Report. There is so much I respect and admire about Thom's knowledge of American History and politics, and his ability to communicate it in a manner that likely connects with people from many backgrounds who choose to listen. I particularly liked, over the years, the 'Lunch with Bernie' segments.
However, I've got to question WHY this site persists with the Trump/Russia collusion narrative that has been proven to be an invention of the HRC campaign? Trump has been arrested because he clearly took the documents (as did President Biden and former VP Pence, and probably many others). Trump MAY have shared them with random unimportant others, and he refused to turn them over when repeatedly ordered to do so, allegedly. This emails asks, "But what if it goes beyond that? What if Putin has owned him for years? The narrative that says that Trump was collaborating in SOME way with Putin was invented by, ordered to be invented by Hillary Clinton. This is a fact.
I think that media that continue to pursue and amplify this narrative in the context of these accepted facts, including Thom, hurts their credibility.
How about focusing upon investigating the government lies and coverup of the pandemic origins?
I, and many who read this blog, judging by their comments, trust Thom's long journalistic experience. When a journalist feels they're onto something, they pursue it. What he's sharing here is instinctual information that may never end up in public hands, because it's blocked as being secret at the highest levels, but he feels the public has a right to know. And you would prefer that he cover the quagmire surrounding the pandemic?? That's an abyss that would have us running around in circles. No thanks, I prefer to know as much as possible about Russian infiltration into American society.
Ah hah, a MAGA troll, deflecting and changing the subject. Damn right Russia was in on it, and Putin and Trump are joined at the hip. The pandemic origins are not an important subject, in case you haven't noticed, neither is the Spanish flu.
Good Try, but fail
It's not easy to hit more than 4 of the current false right wing narratives in one swing, and still create false lefty persona. Stripping out the standard pedo and antisemitic tropes helps. The last part is over the top because it ties to taibbi who is exposed in the article. But it includes a good idea - focusing more on nature and science instead of Tom cotton's China-bashing theories. Elsewhere it's not - but may be a little bit of a stretch in this learned forum to get people to believe in conspiracy theories that contradict high school level science.
https://www.science.org/content/article/evidence-suggests-pandemic-came-nature-not-lab-panel-says
Not nearly as much as the echo chamber media that obsesses about the symptoms instead of the causes, resulting in an electorate that can tell misinformation from reality because they are fed the Trump reality show 24/7. The problem being what can we as citizens do about Trump? There is nothing actionable in the countless hours of commiserating about Trump's misdeeds and somehow tying them to Putin to provide cover for a rudderless Democratic Party. I am far more concerned about Biden selling a record number of weapons or war around the globe and particularly that almost 60% of these weapons went to autocracies. This is the greatest threat to democracy Thom, and it will do far more damage than even your and much of the media's insistence on giving Trump the gift of the spotlight that he craves.
Are you saying it doesn't bother you that the echo chamber that is the billionaire-owned media is doing everything it can to return fascist Trump to power? Are you unable to see where that will lead, and the consequences for the ordinary citizen? Weapons sales done in the public eye will continue as long as the military-industrial complex buys politicians of whatever stripe, but a far greater threat to democracy would be allowing the Putin/Trump combo to be reelected.
Great retort to our resident Putinist. So long as humans are what they are, greedy, needy, fearful, hateful there will always be a need for an armaments industry. Either that or just lay down, expose your throat and wait for the boot and knife. "Peace at any price".?
Meanwhile Mssr Kaufman would have us chasing our tails around the mulberry bush, in pursuit of some irrelevant bullshit.
I am saying that even Thom Hartmann is doing so by focusing on Trump in lieu of the problems that are allowing his ascendance. The premise that Putin is somehow working with Trump is a Democratic Party trope that excuses the party's utter incompetence and corporate inservitude. I would guarantee that World War III and/or nuclear annihilation because Biden refuses to consider diplomacy and will not even speak to the Russian ambassador will be much more rapid than the downward spiral resulting from another Trump presidency. The greatest threat is not always the one that appears to be the most obvious, and this is a two-party system, one that espouses theocratic fascism and the other comprised of imperialist oligarchs. That is not to say Trump is not a threat, but liberal fear and paranoia feeds his power. You are charging that monster with electricity, not me,.
The only person I know of that allleges Putin is working with the Democratic party is you. Thanks for the advance disinfo campaign.
Interesting that you divide the theocratic fascists from the imperialist oligarchs, when in fact the are one and the same, and there home is the Republican party.
Of course the plutocrats have their finders in both parties, but their major contributions (money ad media) are the Republican party, who has always championed tax cuts for the plutocrats, and reduced standard of living for the rest of us. I guess you never read any of Thom's writings on Lewis Powelll and the degradation of Democracy.
I am pretty sure that you won't bother to read this Salon article,as your mission is to spread disinfo and turn the question https://www.salon.com/2023/06/13/welcome-to-the-end-times-peter-turchin-saw-this-coming--and-says-we-can-still-prevent-collapse/?lh_aid=3594738&lh_cid=pym4c78hy5&lh_em=myocicats@gmail.com&di=166fe6973b637fa5aa868c6d1ecb650f
"There is nothing actionable in the countless hours of commiserating about Trump's misdeeds and somehow tying them to Putin to provide cover for a rudderless Democratic Party"
While I agree about the Democratic party, there is plenty actionable about Trump.
I share concerns about the MIC, but what you are campaigning for at this time, is the annihilation of a country(Ukraine) by a right wing dictator, a h omophobe, misogynist, a NAZI in all but name.
Sell your wares somewhere else.
Putin’s invasion of Ukraine has been a huge miscalculation on his part. He didn’t expect Ukraine to fight back, or for it to get the support of most of the EU nations and the United States. Ultimately, Putin’s miscalculation may very well put his own regime at risk. I don’t agree with those Americans who support Putin, beginning with his useful idiot Donald J. Trump.
Sixty years ago I and many others were frightened by a movie, THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE.
In 2016 I had the distinct sense that it was happening. Reading this article, I am more certain that it has come true.
Do we have a path to bringing this all to light, and taking action?
Or has the next Lee Harvey Oswald already been selected to solve the matter should 'the Donald' appear to be getting close to the White House, again?
Sixty years ago I saw a movie that frightened me with the real possibility of a MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE.
I had the distinct feeling in 2016 that I was seeing the nightmare come true.
Reading this, I am further convinced....
What is the path to launching a full court press on this matter? This cannot be handled in the dark.
Or has another Lee Harvey Oswald already been selected to take care of "the Donald" if he appears to be getting close to the White House again.
D. Laghezza
In plain sight. Thanks for the reminders, and stuff I should have known by don’t remember . . . the program is to make so much crap happen that a functioning profitable society can’t even keep up with it.
And how much property and wealth does P and his criminal cadre own and control in the USA? My bet is that SCOTUS cases have made it next to impossible to know.
-- reading [ Senator ] Sheldon Whitehouse’s ‘The Scheme,’ tough going, every chapter enraging yet calmly factual . . . raging and snorting, b.rad