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Daniel, I'm reposting my reply to Mr Dobbertin, as you might miss it.. Discuss?

Mr Dobbertin. a good post almost but I must correct some misunderstandings. My source if Modern Money Mechanics, FRBNY, now out of print,was once free for the asking, but you can find it here: chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Modern_Money_Mechanics.pdf

The US Treasury does indeed print money, and the US Mint stamps out coinage, coinage is real money, printed money is sold to Federal Reserve for Cost of Printing, which then sells it to member banks, which then uses it to meet demand from small businesses and street vendors and vending machines demand for paper money. Most money is transmitted via twisted paris and wireless transactions in the form of 0's and 1's.

The US and the West are indeed on a debt money system, it is more accurate to call it a Debt money, not fantasy money, but it is officially the Federal Reserve system.

Member financial institutions, Banks, Credit Unions, Savings and Loans are required to hold reserves. most reserves are held by Fed Regional banks,. Reserves are govenment securities, corporate bonds, and time accounts (checking accounts)

The Fed sets the reserve base, it can be as little as 0.25 and high as the Federal Reserve Open Market committee sets it.

Money is created when anyone or any entity, including the government, borrows from a financial institution.

Let's say the reserve base is set at 10%, that means that the bank can lend out any amount, so long as they have 10% of the loan in reserve with the Regional Fed (there are 12 of them)

In visual form, using the Jimmy Stewart movie , It's a Wonderful Life. A person walks into the bank and wants to borrow $100. The banker looks in his drawer, to see if he has $100, he does, so he loans the customer, $100 and counts out bank notes (Notes printed by the bank) this is debt money,not fantasy money, fantasy money is found in monopoly games, but I understand people need a concept that isn't so difficult that they can't wrap their heads around it.

There is a fact about debt money, that is not easily understood. Any money created out of debt, is wiped off the books (goes out of existence) when debts are paid down and paid off.

In 2019, I paid off my mortgage,and in doing so the remainder of my debt disappeared,went off the books.

What doesn't disappear, and which is the primary driver of inflation, is the interest on the debt.

When I went in debt to pay my house, my cars, whatever, the bank did not have to pull all of the money for the mortgage or loan, out of it's vaults, only the fraction of the reserve set by the Fed. That is why it is called a Fractional Reserve System. The rest was a book keeping entry, as a credit to the bank. Your debts are a financial institutions assets and go in the Credit column of its books , it's customers savings accounts are considered liabilities, and that is why the Fed doesn't include them in its reserve calculations. Checking accounts are assets, savings accounts are liabilities.

Again, and I emphasize, the only currency the Federal Government creates is coinage, Paper and electronic money are created out of debt, by banks in a book keeping maneuver, as debt creates money so does paying off the debt extinguishes the money.

I acknowledge your education and experience in your fields, please acknowledge mine. This is a subject I researched for my MBA, majors in finance and accounting. I've researched and written a 156 page on International Financial Institutions, including the Bank for International Settlements, the Banking System of the USSR, and Bank of Israel. By the way the system I would opt for is Israels, circa 1984. I have no idea what it looks like today.

Here is a copy and paste: Many Israeli's are invested in Patam accounts(Local resident's foreign currency accounts). These accounts provide insurance and a hedge against devaluation(through inflation) of the Shekel. Wouldn't it be nice if American's could invest in SDR (IMF-Special DrawingRights) accounts as can certain multinational corporations and banks. In fact Patam accounts (dollars) have moved so fast that in Israel they act like money in the banking system (Economic Review, 53, May 82, Bank of Israel.

Our currency is Fractional Reserve (which I explained) a Debt Money System, not a Phantom money system, though it amounts to the same, only the Government isn't creating the money, financial instiutions via the Federal Reserve create the money, but not the money to pay the interest hence inflation. Raise the amount of interest due the Federal Reserve debt money system, and you raise the inflation floor.

Jerome Powell's interest rate increases will only increase and accelerate inflation in the future.(it takes time for the system to work it's way through the economy), time for the debts (public and private) to come due

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Mr. Farrar, it is hard to believe that Biden was naive enough to keep Powell around. Is it not?

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Mr. Farrar. I have copied the source for the Modern Money Mechanics, now out of print, which you printed. I intend to get it if I can and read it. Hope I can make sense of it. It was difficult for my old eyes to read as I copied it out of your comment.

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It is on wikipedia commons and you can download it, free. It is one hell of a dry read, and you need some background in money and finance. One thing you won't see in it is, that money created out of debt, "vanishes" as the debt is paid down and paid off, however if one reads carefully, one realizes that.

The pamphlet was a required reading in my first finance course, when I mentioned that in class, an Army Captain also in the class, challenged me. I looked at the professor and he nodded and told the Captain I was correct.

Money created out of debts (public, corporate and private) go out of existence when debts are paid down and paid off, and also when one files bankruptcy .

Have you never asked why is it that financial institutions can buy and sell mortgages, car, airplane and boat loans?

The answer is simple, so long as they recover their original reserve (the 10% or so they have to have to loan money) and received interest payments, they have recovered their original investment plus interest, the rest is simply wiped off the books, double entry accounting.

The institution the buys the loan, soon recovers their original investment,plus interest, and the game goes on and on, they can buy and sell a loan or a mortgage over and over, and not lose a penny but make a profit, and if the borrower defaults, then they recover the property which was the basis of the loan, and make a huge profit selling it and starting all over.

Of course financial institutions need the law on their side, they have the sheriff who can seize property if the holder doesn't pay taxes, payments on the mortgage or loan,or obey the laws.

ICYMI, now comes my exposition. You and I don't actually own property, we simple hold title in Fee Simple.

Fee feudal) Simple is a device that originated with Edward I. his barons rose up against him, because the King (the sovereign) held allodial rights to all of England. Allodial rights are the right of conquest. And the barons were sore pissed because the King, being sovereign with allodial rights) all too frequently disposed his barons of their titles and fiefdoms, to bestow them on a court favorite.

The answer he came up with is to grant them title in Fee Simple, meaning the land and the feudal title, Duke and Baron) were his and his heirs in perpetuity, so long as he paid his taxes, provided for defense of the realm with weapons, armor and men at arms, pledged fealty (another word with a feudal stem) , and obeyed the law of the land, which was the King's law.

Failure to do so, resulted in eviction from he land and title.

And the word sheriff is a derivative of shire reeve (reave) or reave of the shire, whose job was to collect taxes, and evict those that didn't obey the King's laws.

And that is why it is the sheriff is used to foreclose and evict delinquents and law breakers.

Not all counties and states exercise this authority, but enough do, and that is where sheriff's obtain the authority to confiscate money and titled property, of people accused of breaking the law of the Sovereign,which apparently are the several states, as delegate to the counties the responsibility of enforcing the allodial law.

The Constitutional sheriffs and Peace Officers are a joke, they aren't empowered to enforce or abide by the Constitution.

The oath of office for sheriff's (shire reeve) varies state to state, county to county, but sometimes goes like this: "On my honor, I will never Betray my integrity, my character Or the public trust. I will always have the courage to hold myself and others accountable for our actions. I will always maintain the highest ethical standards and uphold the values of my community, and the agency I serve."

And like this: "“I, (employee name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of ... "

note the "and the Constitution. of the State of........" which means that the constitution of the state supersedes the Constitution of the United States.

FYI the Constitution ratified in 1790, as amended, actually acknowledges the sovereignty of the several states., that is why it takes a Constitutional amendment to grant rights to everyone.

Individual states can elect or not elect to pass laws, acknowledging rights, regulate industries, limit or regulate such things as guns, but if they go beyond the Constitution as defined by six radical theocratic fascists, the laws will be nullfiied.

The federal government was not able to outlaw automatic fire weapons, but found a work around by requiring a permit, an exhausive application process, and then paying a heavy tax, to purchase and own an automatic fire weapon.

They could do the same for semi automatic, rapid fire weapons and large magazines.

Self loading, semi automatics, like those used for hunting, and shotguns have or had, magazines with limited rounds, I had a 30.05 with a magazine of four rounds, most semi automatic shotguns also have a four or five round limit.

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Mr. Farrar. I acknowledge your expertise. Is there any doubt? you clearly are well informed about banking and financial issues.

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