Jumping in, because I listened to the audio/video version a little while ago. I have long found this immigration situation confounding and have strongly suspected that we are deliberately being given sort of blurry or vague information about the situation. I have questioned and doubted that the immigration situation is anywhere near as b…
Jumping in, because I listened to the audio/video version a little while ago. I have long found this immigration situation confounding and have strongly suspected that we are deliberately being given sort of blurry or vague information about the situation. I have questioned and doubted that the immigration situation is anywhere near as bad as what Trump and his supporters have portrayed. My brother, a Trump voter, recently asked me if I cared about the so-called immigration crisis, and he was astonished that I do not and I did not consider it to be an issue when I voted for Kamala Harris. But I have a question and I wonder if anybody can clarify this for me. I have a couple of female friends who are registered Democrats, who voted for Joe Biden, but who are married to MAGA husbands. I find that on some issues they are influenced by the thinking of their MAgA spouse. For example, last spring, I had several conversations with one of them who claimed to be very upset about the immigration crisis and sounded to me like she was seriously thinking about voting for Trump in the 2024 election over the immigration issue. She insisted that she had seen and heard Biden on television proclaim that our border is open. She was very upset about this. Does anyone know if this is an accurate statement, or is this a sentence that was taken out of context in an address that Biden delivered shortly after he won the election in 2020? I was unable to accurately respond to this because she was so adamant in her insistence that she heard Joe Biden say our borders are open. Anybody?
I watch a lot of CNN, MSNBC, PBS and have never seen Biden or anyone in his administration say we have open borders. As a matter of fact this past year his administration decreased the number of immigrants entering legally. As Ruth Ben-Ghiat writes, autocrats and their party use hate, misinformation and continually repeat the lies. Did you notice how upset Trump was after the debate w Harris with ABC for fact checking? He didn’t even repeat the lies, just lashed out about taking away the broadcasting license and suing journalists. I sometimes think we are in a surrealist time but then I remember the Civil Rights era and the Vietnam War ( and most recently the Iraqi invasion by the US) and it’s always been here. We just had a lot of progress w minority rights , diversity and a slow progress towards equity. It became too much for racists and sexists and all it took was a depraved individual without any sense of decency, ethics to organize the hate ( with the help of well connected politicos. The big quest is why do even those who know better continue to encourage or participate ( the Grahams, Sununus, Cruzes,?
Mitch, I am constitutionally incapable of belief, but I am beginning to accept the possibility of a multiverse and that we , or rather I, am living in an alternate reality, were up is down, good is bad, right is wrong
Google the Mandela effect, Millions of people world wide believed that Nelson Mandela died in Prison, then he shows up on TV as a hero being released, there are lots of instances like that.
The had a TV Series and a book of the same called The Man in the High Castle.
an alternate reality where Germany invaded America landing at Virginia Beach.
Maybe one day I will wake up in a MAGAt free universe, no Trump, No Musk, no religion, no ideology.
William, there are astrophysicists who theorize/predict multiple universes and we are one of many. Philip K Dick wrote the High Castle book and he is a favorite SF writer. He also wrote Bladerunner ( titled “Do Robots Dream of Electric Sheep?”). I think its just been so long since the last global turmoil that we ( in the US and Western Europe where we stopped invading our neighbors) that our political system ( even in a strong democracy) has allowed nihilists and oligarchs to attain so much influence and power. Maybe Canada, Greenland and Panama will come rescue us.
Mitch: Thank you for this statement:"I think its just been so long since the last global turmoil that we ( in the US and Western Europe where we stopped invading our neighbors) that our political system ( even in a strong democracy) has allowed nihilists and oligarchs to attain so much influence and power.
In one sentence you nailed it.
I could indulge in rhetorical meandering, philosophical philandering and a historical exegesis but you said it all in one sentence.
I see it as another Trump business opportunity. His private prison owner donors and the labor pool industry will benefit directly and he may personally have a piece of the action as he is an expert in using temporary visas.
Nobody mentions the pardon he gave Bannon, who was running a scam on the border wall and still is exposed in a NY criminal case.
Jumping in, because I listened to the audio/video version a little while ago. I have long found this immigration situation confounding and have strongly suspected that we are deliberately being given sort of blurry or vague information about the situation. I have questioned and doubted that the immigration situation is anywhere near as bad as what Trump and his supporters have portrayed. My brother, a Trump voter, recently asked me if I cared about the so-called immigration crisis, and he was astonished that I do not and I did not consider it to be an issue when I voted for Kamala Harris. But I have a question and I wonder if anybody can clarify this for me. I have a couple of female friends who are registered Democrats, who voted for Joe Biden, but who are married to MAGA husbands. I find that on some issues they are influenced by the thinking of their MAgA spouse. For example, last spring, I had several conversations with one of them who claimed to be very upset about the immigration crisis and sounded to me like she was seriously thinking about voting for Trump in the 2024 election over the immigration issue. She insisted that she had seen and heard Biden on television proclaim that our border is open. She was very upset about this. Does anyone know if this is an accurate statement, or is this a sentence that was taken out of context in an address that Biden delivered shortly after he won the election in 2020? I was unable to accurately respond to this because she was so adamant in her insistence that she heard Joe Biden say our borders are open. Anybody?
I watch a lot of CNN, MSNBC, PBS and have never seen Biden or anyone in his administration say we have open borders. As a matter of fact this past year his administration decreased the number of immigrants entering legally. As Ruth Ben-Ghiat writes, autocrats and their party use hate, misinformation and continually repeat the lies. Did you notice how upset Trump was after the debate w Harris with ABC for fact checking? He didn’t even repeat the lies, just lashed out about taking away the broadcasting license and suing journalists. I sometimes think we are in a surrealist time but then I remember the Civil Rights era and the Vietnam War ( and most recently the Iraqi invasion by the US) and it’s always been here. We just had a lot of progress w minority rights , diversity and a slow progress towards equity. It became too much for racists and sexists and all it took was a depraved individual without any sense of decency, ethics to organize the hate ( with the help of well connected politicos. The big quest is why do even those who know better continue to encourage or participate ( the Grahams, Sununus, Cruzes,?
Mitch, I am constitutionally incapable of belief, but I am beginning to accept the possibility of a multiverse and that we , or rather I, am living in an alternate reality, were up is down, good is bad, right is wrong
Google the Mandela effect, Millions of people world wide believed that Nelson Mandela died in Prison, then he shows up on TV as a hero being released, there are lots of instances like that.
The had a TV Series and a book of the same called The Man in the High Castle.
an alternate reality where Germany invaded America landing at Virginia Beach.
Maybe one day I will wake up in a MAGAt free universe, no Trump, No Musk, no religion, no ideology.
William, there are astrophysicists who theorize/predict multiple universes and we are one of many. Philip K Dick wrote the High Castle book and he is a favorite SF writer. He also wrote Bladerunner ( titled “Do Robots Dream of Electric Sheep?”). I think its just been so long since the last global turmoil that we ( in the US and Western Europe where we stopped invading our neighbors) that our political system ( even in a strong democracy) has allowed nihilists and oligarchs to attain so much influence and power. Maybe Canada, Greenland and Panama will come rescue us.
Mitch: Thank you for this statement:"I think its just been so long since the last global turmoil that we ( in the US and Western Europe where we stopped invading our neighbors) that our political system ( even in a strong democracy) has allowed nihilists and oligarchs to attain so much influence and power.
In one sentence you nailed it.
I could indulge in rhetorical meandering, philosophical philandering and a historical exegesis but you said it all in one sentence.
I see it as another Trump business opportunity. His private prison owner donors and the labor pool industry will benefit directly and he may personally have a piece of the action as he is an expert in using temporary visas.
Nobody mentions the pardon he gave Bannon, who was running a scam on the border wall and still is exposed in a NY criminal case.