Are the Great Conveyor Belt and the “Clathrate Gun Hypothesis” about to throw the planet into an existential crisis?
Dear God .
Save us from ourselves. Save us from Gas and Oil corporations who buy off Republicans ( they know who they are)
Save us from the Supreme Court six who know better but refuse to loose the perks of their appointments.
Save us from Donald Trump who continually distracts us from whats important by his made up song of victimhood.
Lock him up.
Save us from our desire to avoid upsetting wealthy Oil and Gas producers Save us from allowing us to be destroyed, in the name of the false god of money . Save us from our legislative representatives .
Those that have made it their sworn duty to protect their sources of bribe money . Instead of protecting us. Save us from the would be murderers of ‘ WOKE’
We need WOKE more than ever.
4.4 billion humans live in poverty on Earth. 71% of the population. If there was a strong middle class, there would be a much stronger desire to save the planet. But people who are tortured every day don't care who they vote for or the environment. The billionaire globalist deep state tyrants have taken advantage of that fact in order to push their fossil fuels. Apathy is a killer. This is what happens when you let greedy sociopaths lead while most of the sheep believe in the supernatural religions.
Yes! And thank you for doing a 'deep dive' on this. Speaking of dives, last night PBS Newshour had a scientist on from NOAA/Virginia Key in FL, lovely young woman (brilliant too, of course), who studies and dives the FL coral reefs every day. The bleaching is massive; this beautiful young person had such a look of fear in her eyes. She knows.... My son and his wife have done environmental GIS work and other studies for NASA; they know that we are out of time. Finally, please post the Democrats $# from fossil fuel industries too; they are just as bad. How many times now has Biden thrown us a bone by declaring a National Monument, while approving drilling in AK and a new pipeline in WVA? Plenty. I think they all want a 'Ravens Rock' ride on the space ship/boat ...whatever. Another great movie to watch, 'Don't Look Up' ; the end of the world climate allegory; chilling.
"Let us put our minds together as one."
--Irving Powless, Sr., ONONDAGA
If we sat in a circle and put an object in the center of the circle and we all described what we saw, everyone would see different points of views from each other. Some would even see opposites because they would be sitting on opposite sides of the circle. In other words, you don't have to see what I see for you to be right. In fact, everyone in the circle is right based on their own point of view. If we are willing to listen to everyone's point of view, then we can get a more accurate description of the object in the center. This is one way to put our minds together. When we get the clarity from each other, we should give thanks and be grateful to each other.
Grandfathers from the four directions, guide me today with Your wisdom from the east, from the south, from the west and from the north.
This was very well said as always, Thom. And it is not just methane in the oceans; huge amounts of it are trapped in the Arctic tundra's soils. The warming of the northernmost parts of the planet could release a lot of that, creating another positive feedback effect since as you know this gas is a far more potent greenhouse agent than carbon dioxide.
Unfortunately though, here in America the public reaction to these hard facts is too often like many had to COVID: Deny, deflect and question. Given how poorly many Americans are educated in science; wishful thinking and fantasy are easier and more enjoyable than the hard work of learning and working with a universe that has definite laws and limits. And that is especially true if people are told that those limits will interfere with their standard of living.
So it is no surprise that there is great popular interest in things like ghosts, alien visitors, and vast conspiracy theories. Sound bites and simplistic answers to complicated questions are the norm. In such an environment inciters like Trump or DeSantis, who appeal to emotion rather than logic, will do very well. After all, blaming "scientists" or those of us who are "woke" as threats is far easier than biting the hand that feeds you. And this is especially true if one is a scientific illiterate to begin with.
Writing this from a heat wave in Iowa...
I fear that the warming and its consequences have put us in a position to do little more than rearranging the deck chairs.
We have always carried around the seeds of our own destruction, but the "Reagan Revolution" represents the most significant cultivation of them in my lifetime (nearly 80 years).
Bravo, you got that right. Also, we need good science education in our schools so our youth will understand the scientifically verified processes that determine our climate. Some years ago (2007), I was teaching HS Earth Science. I attended the NSTA (National Science Teachers Association) annual conference. It was huge, thousands of educators and scientists converged. A number of NASA scientists attended, as well, as they have a keen interest in educating our youth. I was impressed as the George W Bush administration was monkeying around with NASA and NOAA, but their scientists weren't muzzled at that event. Almost every session I attended featured their concerns with the absence of good Earth Science instruction and the need to beef it up. Now, we have stripped even more Earth Science, as a high school class, away under the assumption that earth science topics will be integrated into biology, chemistry and physics classes in H.S. My earth science class is largely gone. I taught, to a level of basic understanding, the cycles that drive our climate. I recall a NASA scientist mentioning that only something like 17% of our high school students, at that time, were getting this vital education across the U.S. If you learn the science to a basic degree of understanding, then the scenarios make sense. If you do not, if you keep your head in the sand, we are doomed. Just last week, my spouse was on a Zoom with people who dragged out the weary and worn argument that changes in our Sun are driving this climate trend. My naive answer to that is simply: we have solar observatories all over the world. Solar astronomers take daily data on our Sun's activity. If our Sun was warming to that extent, their data would demonstrate it. Golly, we have been taking solar data with solar telescopes for well over 100 years. But, I ramble. Thanks for the essay. Maybe a few more years of this crisis will wake up more folks, but if the gun crisis in this country is any indicator of our politics, we may continue to wait as the crises deepen. I guess human lives can't compete with profits..
Two days in a row you scared me half to death! But you’re not wrong. As a high schooler in the early 70’s I believed we would drown in our own garbage. But the trends are even scarier.
Don't worry everybody. The Deep Ocean Conveyor Belt is slowing too. And of course, happening "sooner than expected". And of course, the Koch brothers have founded their Project 2025 to gut all regulations on fossil fuel companies when they steal the next election. Cheers!!!!
Harder, faster, stronger---that's what Americans like. The fossil fuel industries are rich and powerful because they provide it. Now Mother Earth is delivering her version.
When it comes to our doom and gloom future, I am going with the gloom. It's already miserable living in a hermetically sealed abode, that is if you are lucky enough to have one. Is humanity doomed? Maybe, but we have a seven billion-plus cushion we are working with. Wars, famine, poverty, and weather disasters, men and women just keep "doing it" harder, faster, stronger.
Because I had fought a gas pipe project for 15 years, I was familiar with every one of these possible systemic failures. I know what has happened to the animals, at least the part that science has discovered so far. Seeing the pics from space, it's easy to understand how thin our atmosphere is and what a fragile and beautiful planet we are on. AND, that pipe-fight taught me about the politics involved; I guess you could say I have been to "Fossil Fuel University".
Love this Report because I can pass it on. No one could teach a better class along with showing the resource material available. Thanks Thom.
How much more convincing could you get? Maybe things like this heatwave revealing places threatened here and now of becoming uninhabitable could light some fires, but it's cartoony to keep revving up the danger engines and not making a dent in people's indifference. What else to do? Good question. I say tune people into humanity being hot stuff -- cheerlead for that. For us being the thinking species that can have the honor and privilege of helping this incredible planet. Maybe progress is not in better reporting of how bad things are but in changing our tactics for what to do about it.
Thanks for the list of fossil fuel $ recipients Thom - it's helpful and reinforces what you often speak of. Speaking of western Europe getting a kick in the pants to go green since the Ukraine crisis, when I see those ammunition depots being blown up, and lines of diesel tanks and armored personnel carriers, I wonder if these don't just offset the savings by going green. One area's decreasing their carbon emissions, while the other's just spewing out more carbon. I get the impression the military-industrial complex doesn't care a whit about what's being put into the atmosphere, along with those fossil fuel companies - those are some pretty powerful lobbies to go up against. Like David vs. Goliath.
Beyond horrific. And the super rich who are funding fossil fuel, are delusional. They think their money will save them and their progeny. We would all go ultimately
It's pretty obvious, observing the heat and flooding that recently plague usually cool and temperate Western Europe and Britain, that the AMOC effect has already declined dangerously, and that pressure and wind systems all over the globe (because of AGW) are becoming less predictable and less controllable, but no thanks to government inaction (due to political pressure and money,) Old Man Oil - just like Old Man River - jest keeps rollin' along.
You're all a bunch of alarmists. Nothing to see here. Completely normal to have entire countries, and most continents, baking under heat domes while the sea is hot enough to cook a clam bake in. /s
Jokes aside, all of the sane people are here on this Substack, reading this thread or something like it. As this post said, the people who need earth science education and understanding of the facts we're digesting, aren't listening.
Most here are probably already combining trips while driving electric, or the most fuel efficient ICE cars we can afford. We're pulling shades down during the day to block the sun, setting our AC's back to conserve energy during the hottest part of it. We're surrounded by individuals driving lifted, 3-ton behemoths powered by gas or diesel V8 engines as daily drivers. Earlier in the season, our area had unseasonably cool weather. Days topped out in the upper 70s and low 80s, usually with dry air and a constant breeze. I hardly ran my AC at all. Yet other neighbors had their windows shut and ACs running full bore that entire stretch.
Unless and until we convince people that living and spending wastefully isn't prestigious, we'll continue to be crowded out by nonsensical economic and energy choice decisions.
Check this map for the highest temperatures across the U.S., the Senators for that state, how much they get from fossil fuel donors (with links back to this article) and how to call your Senator to hold them accountable for denying Global Warming