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Everything we do is right or wrong, moral or immoral. It is always cheaper to be moral. For example, food stamps are cheaper than prisons. Like the old saying, if you think education is expensive try ignorance. The right wingers do not want to invest in American citizens. I would say the rich right wingers but it appears all the right wingers. Their need to torture and abuse others is what they have in common. The Trump humpers will not like being abused by the rich dictator though. We need to deconstruct neoliberalism and Reaganomics. We can save America from a Dickensonian future by ending the trickle down theory, free trading, capitalist healthcare, corporate welfare, unfunded wars, offshore banking, bloated military budgets, unlimited greed and overpopulation while instituting self supporting prisons and self-supporting poor farms, so everyone has some financial security which will save trillions of dollars also. It looks like the fascist plan is just to get rid of all the old and disabled and starving, either sending them off to war without weapons or shooting and torturing them. It will all be about money, power and fame and not working to end human suffering. As the Ukraine goes,so goes America and the rest of the world.

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That is a quote I need to write down.. Food stamps are cheaper than prison and if you think education is expensive try ignorance."

Prisons have been privatized The taxpayer pays corporations an ungodly sum per prisoner, to house them and the corporations use them as almost free labor (slaves) paying them, if at all, pennies a day.

This is evidence of corruption in our governments.

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Marianne Williamson for President 2024.

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Your kidding, she is vapid, rudderless and her own threat, do to her lack of political skills and experience, also a threat to democracy, regardless of how much I agree with her agenda.

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One more thing a vote for anyone but Biden is a vote for Trump, so lots of luck. I can't believe that chauvinist (race or gender) can be that stupid.

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It disturbs me greatly that the Republicans very obviously support Putin.

How quickly they forget who they are dealing with. They’re dealing w the Devil.

It’s time for people to see clearly who and what they are denying by supporting Russia and looking at how we are supporting Israel.

Netanyahu is also indiscriminately attacking civilians at every turn . The US is supporting this.

I agree that Israel was a victim of a brutal attack but the brutality is ongoing and reciprocated.

Ukraine can not possibly oppose the Russian war machine without assistance.

Are we waiting for the whole European continent to go up in flames at Russias hand.

The whole world is in danger. Those that promote principles of terror are pushing the perpetrators of terror to the top.

The Republicans are supporting terror, they are now terrorists.

The Trump supporters are quite obviously standing for his criminal agenda.

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It wouldn't surprise me to learn that the entire Hamas operation is out of Putin's playbook, in order to cut aid to Ukraine. I believe that U.S. state dept. and intelligence are on to him as being complicit - the attack on Syria's airport is a wrench thrown into Putin's plans to terrorize Israel. You're so correct that dealing with Putin is like dealing with the Devil.

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As a voting citizen, my expectation for all of my elected officials should be that they pledge to satisfy their Constitutional purpose, which means that they will do their best to promote our general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty for us and our posterity. In order to achieve their Constitutional purpose, I expect that they will meet the four other Preamble objectives to help our general welfare get promoted and our blessings of liberty get secured (i.e., forming a more perfect union, establishing justice, ensuring domestic tranquility, and providing for the common defense).

In addition, as a voting citizen and regular Hartmann Report reader, I am not so naïve as to think that any Republican (nor a bunch of the Democrats) would ever agree that their Constitutional purpose is to do their best to promote our general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty for us and our posterity. But I would love to ask every one of them about it and have them explain how they believe that their decisions and behavior help them to satisfy their Constitutional purpose.

And for extra credit, I want them to explain why the Powers of Corporate Personhood must be nullified if our democracy is to abort its backslide into autocracy.

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Outstanding Dave, absolutely outstanding

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Thank you, your opinion is always appreciated (especially one like this).

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Thank you for seeing the bigger picture and reporting on it for our understanding. The Vietnam comparison is most apt. Under Biden, you have a talented State Department making use of people who understand Putin and Russia, unlike the last administration who shamed and silenced such knowledge. The problem is there's a battle between these knowledgable professionals, and the many "experts" who are on social media. It's the social media "experts" who Putin is using as a tool to divide and conquer. Social media has become a political tool as such. Clamping down on social media must happen for American democracy to continue its ascent.

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I think the Republicans are more like the capos in the concentration camps they are afraid of trump and Putin. They will say anything or do anything to win favor out of fear.

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Vladonald Trumputin became president of the US via a margin of voters that were duped into casting ballots out of disdain for our system, rather than the pragmatic approach our current system demands. I’m not thrilled with it either, but sometimes you have to be a grown up and put the matches down and do what’s best for the moment. Having said that - fatigued by decades of neoliberal policies and conservative propaganda, it’s easy to understand why so many people voted third-party, or even for a wannabe tough guy like Trump - someone to “drain the swamp” of all those Rougarou’s that were responsible for our every ill. It was so easy to understand (for at least 20 years) in fact, that Putin had no trouble noticing from over 5,000 miles away which schisms in our society he could begin hammering wedges into. Wedges he calculated would fracture the United States in numerous critical ways.

With the GOP being the welcoming doormat it is (for anyone “willing to help in the kitchen”), Putin’s war created a forward operating base safely nestled within a(n) (il)legitimate political party – smack dab in the land of liberty. And the crowning achievement, of course, was Putin helping his bloated lapdog, Donald Trump, get elected to the White House. A stunning achievement for any foe. And by no means are we on safe ground now because Girdles got evicted from Pennsylvania Ave. Not at all. Putin saw an opportunity to use Trump as the wrecking ball to demolish an already hobbled US society (thanks mostly to the GOP for its illegal wars, offshoring of labor, slashing taxes for the oligarchs, crushing education and social programs, banishing the very idea of universal healthcare, obstructing all efforts to improve our infrastructure, promoting hate and “Christian” nationalism, claiming domain over women’s bodies, flooding our communities with weapons of war, blocking wholesale any notion of progress as a society, decimating all norms of moral and civil decency, and of course – legalizing the very thing that makes all this magic possible – bribery).

The damage done is incomprehensible. We don’t see the devastation here because it isn’t in the form of the horrific brutality being levied against Ukraine, Israel, or civilians in Gaza. Nor should we – what is happening in those places is utterly inhuman. In order to right these grotesque criminal acts we must recognize our own weaknesses (others certainly have) and correct them, build consensus for justice here as well as abroad, and act as a check to those among us with ill intent (Elon Musk comes to mind at the moment). And we’d be well advised to know that the world (China, perhaps most consequentially) is eyeing our every step.

When you get punched by a bully, you have to punch back. That’s the only language a bully understands. We need to support Ukraine for as long as is needed, reject the nihilism and self-serving machine at the heart of the GOP, and provide any assistance needed to all people besieged by violence. This isn’t a moment we can afford to sweep under the rug.

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We can hope but the Democrats need to clear up their message or it’s not going to change things. I think a mandatory 8 -12 hour non religious retreat where they’re asked to justify what the hell their job is ? And 2 how they are attempting to do that as representatives of the people. Or do the people matter not at all.?

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Now that is a good comment.

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So thankful that you keep being that voice alerting thinking people to the reality of what is happening… Please don’t give up! We need you!

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This Power Map shows 18 MAGA Republicans and Senators who are helping Putin by crippling U.S. the government when Israel and Ukraine need it the most. Tuberville's block on military promotions and more. MAGA Republicans Create MEGA Chaos to help Putin.

https://thedemlabs.org/2023/10/13/maga-republicans-create-mega-chaos-to-help-putin/

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Do people on the far left and the "tankies" feel that the Democrats need to acknowledge that our war mongering in the past has created phenomenal hatred for us in certain quarters? Has there been any real acknowledgement of that fact? JFK has been lionized but his Machiavellian approach in trying to carry out the assissination of Castro is one example of many where we were dead wrong. Likewise for the removal of the leader of Iran in 1953 by the CIA. Those mistakes had far-reaching consequences. Somehow it is necessary to convince more people that this is different and that we are the good guys in this instance. Once again, it all boils down to truthful accounting and accurate information for well-educated people. We must have a clearer perception of what democracy means and how we can protect it without brutality such as Netanyahu is about to inflict on Palestinians. We can only hope that the self-destruction of the Republicans will lead to an overwhelming Democratic takeover of both branches of Congress and the presidency in 2024.

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The CIA in 1953 and currently do not represent the "liberals". JFK. All dictators are a threat to democracy and JFK did not want Russian missiles pointed at Washington DC or anywhere else in America. On the other hand, the Republicans normalized relations with China and entered into free trade with a Communist dictatorship who is now capitalist. The Democratic party does not represent liberals since Reagan also. There are actually very few liberals and Communists in America. By liberal, if you mean people who don't want to torture other people, there are quite a few Democrats like that. The fastest way to anger a right winger is to have fun and enjoy life and ignore them. They make it their purpose in life to make everyone miserable so they will be the center of attention.

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I think I get your points and probably don’t disagree for the most part. The problem with ignoring the right-wingers is that those pulling strings behind the scenes are deadly serious and have every intention of taking over, and torture is a means to the ends they seek when people get in their way.

You might want to read the “Dark Side of Camelot” to get a slightly different view of JFK and his motivations, although it is indeed dark and may be jaundiced to a degree that is excessive. There were things going on and there was a history that were about much more than missiles in Cuba.

I don’t know that I would call China a capitalist country or what implications, if any, can be drawn from their economic successes. It is probably true that liberals are scarce in the US, although there are several dimensions or vectors along which one can be liberal and conservative which are not all mutually exclusive. The CIA in 1953 was out of control but they did represent our government to a large extent, I believe, and they were controlled by the same type of plutocrats, oligarchs, and power brokers who are trying to take over completely now. Liberals have nowhere to go except to the Democratic party.

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I upvoted, but with reservations. I did like your comment until you came to equivocating on the hell to be reined in on HAMAS. I am a heartfelt progressive, but my empathy came to a halt with the raid of HAMAS on women, children and babies.

Israel is correct HAMAS needs to be eradicated or they will see this act as a success and go on to act II and III.

There is absolutely no way to eradicate HAMAS, especially when those "innocent" woman and kids were ulating and shout in glee as HAMAS was killing Jews.

Mao said that the revolution swims in the sea of the people. The same for HAMAS. If Israel wants to protect it's people in the future, then they have to eradicate HAMAS by all means necessary. And it is a shame that they do, but it all leads back to HAMAS and the decisions it made, and the cowardly punks they use as soldiers.

If Gaza is destroyed then that is on HAMAS If America is destroyed then that is on us, or at least the 40% of the population known as MAGGOTS and Trump humpers.

What are the Jews to do,if not defend themselves by defeating the enemy, then march into the sea, board airplanes for America or Europe (I am sure that won't make the hard left and hard right happy), And here I am, once a critic of Israel and it's treatment dispossession of the Arabs.

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I have been trying to research where the term neoliberalism comes from. It looks to me like in the 1890s a fascist group of dickinsonian's came up with that term, so they could push their own agenda and blame the non-fascist and non-dickinsonians for their draconian worldview? It seems to be working quite nicely 125 years later? Expecting Trump humpers to understand the true meaning of neoliberalism which is seven syllables, is Ludacris. The right wing hate radios and television outlets keep blaming it on Neo liberalism which means Democrats in their minds. What little is left of their minds, no wonder so many of them get Alzheimer's? I've called it Reaganomics for over 40 years without thinking about neoliberalism. The Trump bumpers could understand I was blaming Reagan and not the liberals.

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28th Century liberalism, the liberalism of Adam Smith, Ricardo and even Marx was all about so called free trade, which benefited the elites, he upper class, the manufacturers.l Neo Liberalism in the 20th and 21st centuries is about wide open free trade, which means exporting jobs to countries were labor is cheap, using financial institutions to blackmail and exploit under developed or developing countries, and maximizing profits at the expense of the people and of the environment. That is neo liberalism. Neo Conservative is of the same ilk, except they use military power. The right wing, like Hamas, and Netanyahu and his orthodox religious bigots are prime examples of neo conservatism.

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If they don’t attend , go get a job in the Private sector. Not oil or banking.

Yeah , I know .

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Been addressing this in other venues.

IMHO the Putin influence, if played properly can be flipped. Putin's is also evidently pro-Hamas, pro pogrom. Whereas Israel was not 100% behind Ukraine, even right wing ultra orthodox Jews, like those who supported Trump have to have had an epiphany. Miriam Adelson, Steve Wynn, etc., ultra orthodox Jews, are his biggest donors.

David Kutsoff, R, TN, and Max Miller, R OH, MAGATS, Jews in the House, have to have had an epiphany.

All politics is local and where I live, three House members, Maro Diaz Balart,Maria Salazar and Carlos Giminiez, are Cuban American Batistiano Republicans who represent Democratic majority districts. All take their marching orders from Trump, especially Giminez, whose son was in the Trump inner circle although he formerly was a Democrat. If Diaz Balart's name is familiar, his brother Jose is a talking head on MSNBC. His brother Lincoln was the political boss of Florida. The law school at Florida International University, now ranked as the 7th best public university in the US, is the Diaz Balart School of Law. If the Cuban government is allied with Putin, they have to be politically compromised.

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Dan I am not so sure about Putin being anti pogrom. Algemeiner is an exclusive club of wealthy and influential Jews.

Read this copy and paste from their newspaper/bulletin https://observer.com/2016/03/algemeiner-celebrates-power-jews-at-packed-manhattan-gala/

An eclectic cast of characters gathered inside Broadway’s Gotham Hall on Monday night where The Algemeiner, a conservative-leaning Jewish-American newspaper, unveiled its “Jewish 100” list.

This year’s “Jewish 100” includes the billionaire media tycoon Rupert Murdoch, French philosopher Bernard-Henri Levy, British Secretary of State for Justice Michael Gove, Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ivanka Trump (who is married to the publisher of the Observer). These five, along with the 95 others, were honored and celebrated at the gala because they were deemed by The Algemeiner to have a “positive influence on Jewish life.”

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He is pro pogrom. Supports Hamas.

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I want to agree with you, but that is contradicted by the Algemeiner celebrating him.

Now his support for HAMAS is, I guess, strategic because he knows that the war on HAMAS, will detract from supporting Ukraine. Which Josh Hawley exclaimed when he said we should redirect aid to Ukraine to aid to Israel. And that apparently put liberals in a quandry.

He has his priorities, and in Putins world, Ukraine is his top priority.

As regads pogroms. I have not heard of any., or even talk of such. if he were to initiative or back a pogrom, it would start within the ranks of the oligarchs and the Kremlin.

Remember he says that he invaded Ukraine because of the NAZI's even though they have a brave and steadfast Jewish president.

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The Hamas attack IS the pogrom.

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Oct 13, 2023·edited Oct 13, 2023

I understand now.

As you know there is a part of me that thinks outside the box. Not conspiratorial, but sometimes looks like that, since I don't swallow info at face value.

Cui bono or who benefits. Bibi was in a shit load of trouble, political and criminal, HAMAS is pulling his marshmellow out of the fire.

That might explain the intelligence failure, the nation was snoozing, taking everything for granted, and they didn't even have armed guards in the watch towers, they pulled all of the men, put unarmed female soldiers in their place, and my suggestion is that Bibi knew about the raid, but thought it would be military. I have the same suspicion about 9/11 Bush was warned that it was coming , even the date, but unaware of the particulars, flying into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon,but he was sure to ensure the White House was covered.

I see a Triumvatate of evil, Trump, Putin and Bibi, however I agree that HAMAS needs to be decapitated, and screw the bleeding hearts. the bleeding heart liberals and leftists sure aren't bleeding for the dead,burned, decapitated and hostage Israelis and American Citizens. Frigging immature, self righteous hypocrites.

The extremists left and right will and are destroying democracy, no matter how righteous they declare their cause.

As regards innocent civilians in Gaza. Well the women were ulating when videos of the terrorists came back on cell phones and TV's and the young boys were jumping up and down clapping in glee. There are no innocent civilians, baby HAMAS grow up to be HAMAS terrorists, and if Israel doesn't pull HAMAS out by the roots, regardless of the cost, they might has well pack their belongs, march into the Mediterranean or board flights for America and Europe and how would the antisemites like being flooded with millions of Jewish refugees.?

Idiots never think of unintended consquences. I don't think that Bibi had a clue as to the extent of the terror to be inflicted, but I do think he knew something was up, and pulled the armed male sentries in the watch tower, leaving unarmed females, he thought that this was going to be just another incursion, which he could use to rally support and save his corrupt ass.

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Bleeding heart leftists? A lot of bleeding heart left us I know including myself, see two crazy religious conservative groups killing each other and the humans can't reason with either side. The same with the trump-humpers wanting a dictatorship. There's not hardly any bleeding hearts left because the bleeding hearts don't care if the conservatives kill each other, only other conservatives care they probably have family involved? If America becomes a dictatorship the right wingers deserve it!

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Hmmm, so it's OK for Israel to commit war crimes but not Putin?

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