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Civil wars are the most damaging. We are all better off toning the rhetoric down so we can find common ground.
I will grant you everything you have said about the GOP. And the more they feel people like you and I are not listening to or respecting their views the more attractive leaders like Trump and Ted Cruz become to their voteβ¦
Civil wars are the most damaging. We are all better off toning the rhetoric down so we can find common ground.
I will grant you everything you have said about the GOP. And the more they feel people like you and I are not listening to or respecting their views the more attractive leaders like Trump and Ted Cruz become to their voters.
This is a war where neither side wins.
And it serves the interest of the Corporations that would rather us fight to the death over abortion or WOKE professors or Trans people than organize and come together over things like higher wages, better health care, cleaner environment, higher taxes on the rich, breaking up monopolies etc...
Compromise is the only path. The longer you fight it the more you play into the hands of the donor class who need to keep us at each others throats to hold on to power.
History demonstrates quite the opposite: Appeasement is what plays into the hands of the fascist, not resistance. The Looney Tune right and their truly dangerous ides and rhetoric absolutely need to be called out and ridiculed in every way possible. What the goddamn fascist fools on the far, far right must realize is that most people in America viscerally disagree with their radical ideology. Mainstream Republicans are using barely veiled fascism as bait, and their base is swallowing it hook, line, and sinker.
You don't appease enemies, period. And there are traitors in our midst. Republicans have declared themselves as such: blood enemies to their political opponents AND the Constitution! By denying Biden's clear and clean victory -- oh yeah, and plotting a coup! -- they have laid down their marker. They have declared war on truth, justice, and what use to be "the American way."
People with their heads screwed on right DO listen to the authoritarian views of Republicans, but they do NOT respect them. How can they? The Party of the Rich has no platform to offer voters other than fealty to a strongman and the oligarchs on Wall Street pulling the strings.
Hiding out in some illusive "middle" is an admission of defeat snd a really bad place to be. Go along to get along as America slides toward the Republican version of dystopian hell is not a viable political strategy.
So count me out -- liberals compromising with creeping fascism is the reason we are where we are today.
If it is 35 to 40% of the country that thinks like the "Fascists GOP" then are they actually traitors?
None of your arguments "barely veiled fascism" "denying Bidens clear victory" "plotting a coup" are new to them and they are not buying your view.
This has nothing to do with finding the "illusive" middle ground. There is no middle ground in your rhetoric and there is certainly not middle ground in Trump rhetoric.
You are failing at convincing them and they are failing at convincing you. That is not going to change with your rhetoric any more than Trump is going to convince you to change if he gets more firm in his insults.
So what is your solution if they are not swallowing your angry rhetoric? War??
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Civil wars are the most damaging. We are all better off toning the rhetoric down so we can find common ground.
I will grant you everything you have said about the GOP. And the more they feel people like you and I are not listening to or respecting their views the more attractive leaders like Trump and Ted Cruz become to their voters.
This is a war where neither side wins.
And it serves the interest of the Corporations that would rather us fight to the death over abortion or WOKE professors or Trans people than organize and come together over things like higher wages, better health care, cleaner environment, higher taxes on the rich, breaking up monopolies etc...
Compromise is the only path. The longer you fight it the more you play into the hands of the donor class who need to keep us at each others throats to hold on to power.
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History demonstrates quite the opposite: Appeasement is what plays into the hands of the fascist, not resistance. The Looney Tune right and their truly dangerous ides and rhetoric absolutely need to be called out and ridiculed in every way possible. What the goddamn fascist fools on the far, far right must realize is that most people in America viscerally disagree with their radical ideology. Mainstream Republicans are using barely veiled fascism as bait, and their base is swallowing it hook, line, and sinker.
You don't appease enemies, period. And there are traitors in our midst. Republicans have declared themselves as such: blood enemies to their political opponents AND the Constitution! By denying Biden's clear and clean victory -- oh yeah, and plotting a coup! -- they have laid down their marker. They have declared war on truth, justice, and what use to be "the American way."
People with their heads screwed on right DO listen to the authoritarian views of Republicans, but they do NOT respect them. How can they? The Party of the Rich has no platform to offer voters other than fealty to a strongman and the oligarchs on Wall Street pulling the strings.
Hiding out in some illusive "middle" is an admission of defeat snd a really bad place to be. Go along to get along as America slides toward the Republican version of dystopian hell is not a viable political strategy.
So count me out -- liberals compromising with creeping fascism is the reason we are where we are today.
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If it is 35 to 40% of the country that thinks like the "Fascists GOP" then are they actually traitors?
None of your arguments "barely veiled fascism" "denying Bidens clear victory" "plotting a coup" are new to them and they are not buying your view.
This has nothing to do with finding the "illusive" middle ground. There is no middle ground in your rhetoric and there is certainly not middle ground in Trump rhetoric.
You are failing at convincing them and they are failing at convincing you. That is not going to change with your rhetoric any more than Trump is going to convince you to change if he gets more firm in his insults.
So what is your solution if they are not swallowing your angry rhetoric? War??