Democrats surely seem incompetent when it comes to running for office. They usually win, not by being the best candidate for the job as much as being the lesser of two bad options. Reading Thom's rundown on what I refer to as "Save the Steal" politics, one has to wonder why the Democrats are not demanding the stats on how many of the currently-deported "illegals" were registered voters, much less registered Democrats. That would put a spotlight on the GOP election gaslight.
I think that our so called political leaders are looking out for themselves, what is in their best long term interest, not that of the country, not that of their constituents, not that of democracy,liberty and freedom, but of themselves. They don't want to get on the wrong side of what they perceive to be the winner.
The spotlight is on! Read what even the Heritage Foundation has to say! They agree - there may have been 4, not 400, not 40,000 such immigrant false votes in the last several years of elections.
True and it will happen again in November, the laws and processes and people are in place and in motion.
Question is : What can we do about it?
Our only chance as I see it,is a virtual 100% turnout of Democrats and freedom loving independents, and for that we need aggressive, campaigning, media and advertising.
Keeping up with the times and technology, it will be an all media social media blitz, Reddit, Tik Tok, Facebook, all social media channels.
Only spend as much money on MSNOW to let the geriatric crowd (of which I am a full fledged member) know that the Democratic party is still alive.
The geritatric crowd are, by and large, fully committed liberals are bone headed MAGAts.
People believe what they want to believe. So the real question is, why do they want to believe it ? I think the answer is that it fits with other things they want, and in the case of this lie, they really want a white Christian dictatorship as their form of government, and the constitution is o.k. as long as it's interpreted under the understanding that only white men are actually people, as long as it doesn't get in the way of white money and power, as long as it's a useful tool serving that. .1% doing all this harm, but a much larger number of ne'er-do-wells hoping to join the club by demonstrating their obedience and loyalty. "Good Germans".
Thank you Thom and Greg for all the work and research on this subject.
Blaming immigration for the ills of our nation has become the MO of the Republicans. It seems to be backfiring when it comes to the deportations and crimes committed by ICE.
Let's make it clear to everyone we know what we are facing and how they can make sure that they will be able to vote and have it counted. While we are at it, teach people that the rich Epstein class are the source of our problems, lack of opportunity, and poverty. See you in the streets.
Ghislaine Maxwell has unleashed the "nuclear option" in a last-ditch effort to get out of prison by claiming in court papers a group of 25 “untouchable” men made “secret settlements” with victims — and implying they could and should be prosecuted, per New York Post.
As of last night, Massie, and several others remain persistant. IMHO therere are layers of culpability:
1. Rapists.
2. Pimps.
3. Those who knew or had reason to know that Epstein ran his operation on the honeypot, yet did business and even invested with him had his fellow conspirators, i.e. Lutnick et al.
4. Obstruction of justice. Ironically when Trump # 45 "investigated," it tracked people like Julie Brown and the Miami Herald!
Although Trump claims ignorance, an FBI document just released summarizing a 2019 interview with former Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Reiter, Donald Trump told police in 2006 that Jeffrey Epstein was engaged in "disgusting" behavior, identified Ghislaine Maxwell as Epstein's "operative," and described her as "evil".
MAGA’s are afraid that we as a country will fixate on the obvious: that A vast majority of our population are NOT billionaires nor are they Republicans.
The only massive voter fraud in 2024 and in 2020 was by the Republicans.
Both before the elections taking Democrats off the voter rolls, and during the elections by fixing the "vote counting" in the Republican owned, made and operated counting machines.
Now verified by many different independent professional vote analyzers - especially in all the fringe States Democratic areas.
Such problems will be even greater in November 2026 as Republican ownership of voting machines has been consolidated by a Trump-friendly MAGA company..
“In December 2024, I was personally involved in an NSA‑authorized forensic audit of the 2024 election. Kamala Harris and Tim Walz won—by a wide margin. Trump lost dramatically. There are multiple layers of complexity to this cover‑up, including transnational organized crime syndicates that extend far beyond the United States and our elections. To that point, I work in the human trafficking sector, which intersects with the stolen election(s) and has ties to Trump and Epstein—not to President Biden, Vice President Harris, or Governor Walz, but to the Democrats and other allied interests responsible for burying the audit.”
— Adam Zarnowski, ex-CIA agent and author of Jörmungandr
Here's some truth. Our 11 M undocumented people in this country are here because Oligarchs and corporate CEOs wanted a large pool of labor with no rights that they could pay crap wages and who could not complain about anything. Republicans and corporate (centrist) democrats gave them that labor pool by refusing to have sensible immigration policies for 50 years. Now those people (backbone of our economy) reasonably want citizenship and the right to vote. That possibility scares the crap out of GOP, hence the flip and their actions now to demonize immigrants. The entire problem is a GOP creation.
Echoes of the Great Migration. Great Lakes states, recruited blacks from the south, mostly Mississippi for cheap labor, setting them at odds with the white workers that their labor displaced. Then along comes Clinton with his NAFTA and GATT and the assembly lines moved to Mexico.
Leaving unemployed and underemployed white and black factory workers scrabbling for whatever bread crumbs they could find.
A fertile ground for the Republicans to plow, seed and reap.
You would think that the Latino and black vote would go to Trump, but it didn't, not in 2024, they and Muslims (well the young black male) heard the tune of the Pied Piper and followed him to the mountain, now, all too late,they have buyers remorse.
Oh for the want of a functioning pre frontal cortex, with mastery over the amygdala.
"It defies common sense, although that’s never stopped Republicans from pushing a good conspiracy theory."
You hit the nail right on the head with that statement. Common sense is what is missing more than anything else. Anyone with the most basic information and a lick of common sense should be able to detect and correctly identify the constant stream of BS that Trump and people like him exude everywhere they go. We should not have to rely on media as our only antidote to this kind of lying and fabrication. We are not enabling citizens with any kind of BS detector to have the intuitive capacity for recognizing the mendacity and total lack of morality and character of some demagogue like Trum and Johnson. Their motives are obvious to anyone who is not programmed to prefer myths and superstitious nonsense or to distrust anyone who fits a certain specific behavior pattern.
“Republicans have been using this lie to attack the heart of our democracy right out in the open ever since the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964, the year they responded by rolling out Operation Eagle Eye, yelling about nonexistent “illegal alien voter fraud” and using it as an excuse to intimidate minority voters in the Goldwater/Johnson race.”
It is out in the open because it appeals to a certain mindset and a certain incapacity to distinguish the real from the unreal and truth from untruth programmed into people in institutions based on authority, propaganda straight from the right wing, and a rejection of science, all while pretending to honor science and intellectual openness. Forget about hoping that media will wake up or be reformed. It will be all up to the people now and whether they overcome their brainwashing and naivete. Keep the Epstein scandal front and center.
Thank you for highlighting this republican lie about voter fraud. I will write to politicians and media to push against this stupid, dangerous attack on our democracy. If we don’t fight back against this evil we will lose.
Fear of foreigners is a strong potion, and fear is the only product the GOP has to sell. So it only makes sense that they would connect fear of foreigners to voting. It must be fraud; it can't be that a cadre of unrepentant fascist robber-barons and their creepy toadies would be unpopular.
These days it's hard to determine which is "the most dangerous political lie," there are so many. The Voter Fraud Lie is intimately entwined with the Immigrant Invasion Lie. Aside from the total lack of any kind of evidence that it ever happens, one thing I wonder is why anyone would be upset if non-citizens voted. That seems to be the heart of the fraud claim -- that somehow "non-citizen" equals "fraudulent." To me, it doesn't seem the same as stuffing a ballot box or changing a ballot or some other form of voting fraud.
A national uprising John M Canteberry, that's the cure. I can think of no other, other than national bankruptcy and the United States resigned to a pariah state. And it is already headed in that direction. Eurasia and East Asia are on the ascendancy. Oceana on the decline.
Even if they win, in the end they will lose, and the only way to keep the war machine churning is by virtual enslavement
Imitating Russia. For what keeps the USSR err I mean Russia, together is fear, internal and external fear. Without fear the whole Potemkin village of the farce disappears.
There is a simple solution to the subject of your post, which is the big LIES about voter fraud - and that simple solution is make the Republicans prove it with documented facts, and if they cannot, then their LIE will be exposed - why the Republicans are not asked by journalists and democrats each and every time one of them professes this lie to prove it with documented facts baffles and disappoints me - this should the response to all of the Republicans LIES
You can forget about corporate media anymore. They've been extorted and they're losing all credibility anymore with anyone other than the MAGA cultists.
It's only the independents, like The Hartmann Report, Zeteo, MSNow, and so many others, that will continue to speak the truth. Unfortunately, Americans have been programmed for decades to only believe in the major corporate networks, regardless of what they put out. It's going to take a generation or two to make the switch and we don't have that much time.
I'm hoping the democrats will figure things out quickly here in 2026 before it's too late.
There are so many big and blatant lies coming out of this regime it's hard to say which will be most dangerous. The Big Lie driven by the fragile ego of election fraud is certainly near the top. At the end of the day the gaslighting about climate change may be even more dangerous. It is essential progressives have "Break Glass" strategies in case these corrupt power grabbers do indeed try to steal the mid-terms.
Democrats surely seem incompetent when it comes to running for office. They usually win, not by being the best candidate for the job as much as being the lesser of two bad options. Reading Thom's rundown on what I refer to as "Save the Steal" politics, one has to wonder why the Democrats are not demanding the stats on how many of the currently-deported "illegals" were registered voters, much less registered Democrats. That would put a spotlight on the GOP election gaslight.
I think that our so called political leaders are looking out for themselves, what is in their best long term interest, not that of the country, not that of their constituents, not that of democracy,liberty and freedom, but of themselves. They don't want to get on the wrong side of what they perceive to be the winner.
The spotlight is on! Read what even the Heritage Foundation has to say! They agree - there may have been 4, not 400, not 40,000 such immigrant false votes in the last several years of elections.
On the other hand, we wuz screwed in 2016 and 2024!
"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." Joe Stalin.
True and it will happen again in November, the laws and processes and people are in place and in motion.
Question is : What can we do about it?
Our only chance as I see it,is a virtual 100% turnout of Democrats and freedom loving independents, and for that we need aggressive, campaigning, media and advertising.
Keeping up with the times and technology, it will be an all media social media blitz, Reddit, Tik Tok, Facebook, all social media channels.
Only spend as much money on MSNOW to let the geriatric crowd (of which I am a full fledged member) know that the Democratic party is still alive.
The geritatric crowd are, by and large, fully committed liberals are bone headed MAGAts.
What can we do about it? Try to get control of Congress!
People believe what they want to believe. So the real question is, why do they want to believe it ? I think the answer is that it fits with other things they want, and in the case of this lie, they really want a white Christian dictatorship as their form of government, and the constitution is o.k. as long as it's interpreted under the understanding that only white men are actually people, as long as it doesn't get in the way of white money and power, as long as it's a useful tool serving that. .1% doing all this harm, but a much larger number of ne'er-do-wells hoping to join the club by demonstrating their obedience and loyalty. "Good Germans".
Exactly Luther.
Forewarned is forearmed.....
Thank you Thom and Greg for all the work and research on this subject.
Blaming immigration for the ills of our nation has become the MO of the Republicans. It seems to be backfiring when it comes to the deportations and crimes committed by ICE.
Let's make it clear to everyone we know what we are facing and how they can make sure that they will be able to vote and have it counted. While we are at it, teach people that the rich Epstein class are the source of our problems, lack of opportunity, and poverty. See you in the streets.
Read the Epstein emails for yourself: https://jmail.world/
Ghislaine Maxwell has unleashed the "nuclear option" in a last-ditch effort to get out of prison by claiming in court papers a group of 25 “untouchable” men made “secret settlements” with victims — and implying they could and should be prosecuted, per New York Post.
As of last night, Massie, and several others remain persistant. IMHO therere are layers of culpability:
1. Rapists.
2. Pimps.
3. Those who knew or had reason to know that Epstein ran his operation on the honeypot, yet did business and even invested with him had his fellow conspirators, i.e. Lutnick et al.
4. Obstruction of justice. Ironically when Trump # 45 "investigated," it tracked people like Julie Brown and the Miami Herald!
Although Trump claims ignorance, an FBI document just released summarizing a 2019 interview with former Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Reiter, Donald Trump told police in 2006 that Jeffrey Epstein was engaged in "disgusting" behavior, identified Ghislaine Maxwell as Epstein's "operative," and described her as "evil".
MAGA’s are afraid that we as a country will fixate on the obvious: that A vast majority of our population are NOT billionaires nor are they Republicans.
The only massive voter fraud in 2024 and in 2020 was by the Republicans.
Both before the elections taking Democrats off the voter rolls, and during the elections by fixing the "vote counting" in the Republican owned, made and operated counting machines.
Now verified by many different independent professional vote analyzers - especially in all the fringe States Democratic areas.
Such problems will be even greater in November 2026 as Republican ownership of voting machines has been consolidated by a Trump-friendly MAGA company..
Redux:
“In December 2024, I was personally involved in an NSA‑authorized forensic audit of the 2024 election. Kamala Harris and Tim Walz won—by a wide margin. Trump lost dramatically. There are multiple layers of complexity to this cover‑up, including transnational organized crime syndicates that extend far beyond the United States and our elections. To that point, I work in the human trafficking sector, which intersects with the stolen election(s) and has ties to Trump and Epstein—not to President Biden, Vice President Harris, or Governor Walz, but to the Democrats and other allied interests responsible for burying the audit.”
— Adam Zarnowski, ex-CIA agent and author of Jörmungandr
https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/ex-cia-whistleblower-the-nsa-audited
I don't know whether he is credible, but if he is......
Epstein Emails: https://jmail.world/
Here's some truth. Our 11 M undocumented people in this country are here because Oligarchs and corporate CEOs wanted a large pool of labor with no rights that they could pay crap wages and who could not complain about anything. Republicans and corporate (centrist) democrats gave them that labor pool by refusing to have sensible immigration policies for 50 years. Now those people (backbone of our economy) reasonably want citizenship and the right to vote. That possibility scares the crap out of GOP, hence the flip and their actions now to demonize immigrants. The entire problem is a GOP creation.
Echoes of the Great Migration. Great Lakes states, recruited blacks from the south, mostly Mississippi for cheap labor, setting them at odds with the white workers that their labor displaced. Then along comes Clinton with his NAFTA and GATT and the assembly lines moved to Mexico.
Leaving unemployed and underemployed white and black factory workers scrabbling for whatever bread crumbs they could find.
A fertile ground for the Republicans to plow, seed and reap.
You would think that the Latino and black vote would go to Trump, but it didn't, not in 2024, they and Muslims (well the young black male) heard the tune of the Pied Piper and followed him to the mountain, now, all too late,they have buyers remorse.
Oh for the want of a functioning pre frontal cortex, with mastery over the amygdala.
"It defies common sense, although that’s never stopped Republicans from pushing a good conspiracy theory."
You hit the nail right on the head with that statement. Common sense is what is missing more than anything else. Anyone with the most basic information and a lick of common sense should be able to detect and correctly identify the constant stream of BS that Trump and people like him exude everywhere they go. We should not have to rely on media as our only antidote to this kind of lying and fabrication. We are not enabling citizens with any kind of BS detector to have the intuitive capacity for recognizing the mendacity and total lack of morality and character of some demagogue like Trum and Johnson. Their motives are obvious to anyone who is not programmed to prefer myths and superstitious nonsense or to distrust anyone who fits a certain specific behavior pattern.
“Republicans have been using this lie to attack the heart of our democracy right out in the open ever since the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964, the year they responded by rolling out Operation Eagle Eye, yelling about nonexistent “illegal alien voter fraud” and using it as an excuse to intimidate minority voters in the Goldwater/Johnson race.”
It is out in the open because it appeals to a certain mindset and a certain incapacity to distinguish the real from the unreal and truth from untruth programmed into people in institutions based on authority, propaganda straight from the right wing, and a rejection of science, all while pretending to honor science and intellectual openness. Forget about hoping that media will wake up or be reformed. It will be all up to the people now and whether they overcome their brainwashing and naivete. Keep the Epstein scandal front and center.
Thank you for highlighting this republican lie about voter fraud. I will write to politicians and media to push against this stupid, dangerous attack on our democracy. If we don’t fight back against this evil we will lose.
Fear of foreigners is a strong potion, and fear is the only product the GOP has to sell. So it only makes sense that they would connect fear of foreigners to voting. It must be fraud; it can't be that a cadre of unrepentant fascist robber-barons and their creepy toadies would be unpopular.
It’d be useful if Democratic leadership could bring themselves to let offense be the best defense. (Seems to work for the Repugnicans).
These days it's hard to determine which is "the most dangerous political lie," there are so many. The Voter Fraud Lie is intimately entwined with the Immigrant Invasion Lie. Aside from the total lack of any kind of evidence that it ever happens, one thing I wonder is why anyone would be upset if non-citizens voted. That seems to be the heart of the fraud claim -- that somehow "non-citizen" equals "fraudulent." To me, it doesn't seem the same as stuffing a ballot box or changing a ballot or some other form of voting fraud.
Here's the juice, which I know you know:
- The Big Lie? It's an intentional hoax. Object? Think laser pointer to kittens. A fruitless chase.
- It's the Lee Atwater tactic. That is: You cannot say the n-word anymore, so you encode.
- 2026: You cannot reveal the truth [a through e] below, so you encode. It's Illegals voting!!!.
The Big Truth - To vote, you must be "all" of:
a. White
b. Male
c. Christian
d. Poorly Educated [ideally]
e. Hostile towards minorities, females, non-Christians, and the college-educated
So: WMCPEH
But Crazy Donald cannot say that. So . . . IMMIGRANTS are voting while eating the dogs. They're eating the cats. The goldfish. The budgies.
Note well. These GOP zombies are irrational, so . . .
VOTE or give up and learn the hard way. Learn to live with the perma-GOP Rule of your Commie Pinko, Walking Dead, neighbors. Putin Style.
If RepubliKlans are breathing they're lying!!! What's the cure?
A national uprising John M Canteberry, that's the cure. I can think of no other, other than national bankruptcy and the United States resigned to a pariah state. And it is already headed in that direction. Eurasia and East Asia are on the ascendancy. Oceana on the decline.
Even if they win, in the end they will lose, and the only way to keep the war machine churning is by virtual enslavement
Imitating Russia. For what keeps the USSR err I mean Russia, together is fear, internal and external fear. Without fear the whole Potemkin village of the farce disappears.
Coming soon to our shores, if not already here.
There is a simple solution to the subject of your post, which is the big LIES about voter fraud - and that simple solution is make the Republicans prove it with documented facts, and if they cannot, then their LIE will be exposed - why the Republicans are not asked by journalists and democrats each and every time one of them professes this lie to prove it with documented facts baffles and disappoints me - this should the response to all of the Republicans LIES
You can forget about corporate media anymore. They've been extorted and they're losing all credibility anymore with anyone other than the MAGA cultists.
It's only the independents, like The Hartmann Report, Zeteo, MSNow, and so many others, that will continue to speak the truth. Unfortunately, Americans have been programmed for decades to only believe in the major corporate networks, regardless of what they put out. It's going to take a generation or two to make the switch and we don't have that much time.
I'm hoping the democrats will figure things out quickly here in 2026 before it's too late.
There are so many big and blatant lies coming out of this regime it's hard to say which will be most dangerous. The Big Lie driven by the fragile ego of election fraud is certainly near the top. At the end of the day the gaslighting about climate change may be even more dangerous. It is essential progressives have "Break Glass" strategies in case these corrupt power grabbers do indeed try to steal the mid-terms.