So many Americans have been successfully brainwashed by these far right media outlets. I've watched members of my family, who were once normal "thinking" people become radicals and haters. I no longer recognize them or are able to have a sane, coherent conversation. The change from our parents to sensibly protect us from possibly catastr…
So many Americans have been successfully brainwashed by these far right media outlets. I've watched members of my family, who were once normal "thinking" people become radicals and haters. I no longer recognize them or are able to have a sane, coherent conversation. The change from our parents to sensibly protect us from possibly catastrophic diseases to these anti-vaxxers is horrifying. (Just one example.) I may have cancer and not that long to live but I'm scared to death for my children and grandchildren. At least they have the sense and intelligence to know what is right and true. I fear what next year's 4th of July may bring.
Best wishes on the cancer Dawn. I was diagnosed,in Oct 2017, with stage 4 lung cancer that metastasized to the brain. A craniotomy, ten daily treatments of radiation,two years of triweekly immunotherapy (keytruda) and still chugging along. I wish you wel..
@Dawn, I also fear for my family's future. I was thinking that maybe Biden should resign and make Harris President now so that she could run against Trump as an incumbent and be seen as the strong leader of the free world and give the Dems a better chance. As for Hatmann's informative article, the Red coats never left, they have continued lurking, often out of sight. But we can certainly see them now. I will recommend this article to family I will see today.
The red coats, the Nazis, the confederates, the sadists...... Just don't go away! They are like cockroaches, we need to treat them with respect and decency while keeping them from spewing their hatred! The only other option is all out civil war and third world suffering.
I do not want war, but Trump, his minions and Kevin Roberts of the misnamed Heritage Foundation are chomping at the bit to literally start shooting people for the “crime” of wanting government of, for and my the people.
This should alarm everyone, it makes all other conscerns pale
This from Joyce Vances, substack, Civil Discourse
"A week ago, I started my post to you with some comments made by Kevin Roberts, the head of the Heritage Foundation and architect of Project 2025, when he learned Democrats were making plans to take on Project 2025. Roberts said, “Project 2025 will not be stopped,” and that Democrats are “more than welcome to try” to stop it. He concluded by saying, “We will not give up and we will win.”
Now he’s back at it. On Tuesday, Roberts was on Steve Bannon’s War room. It was minus Bannon, of course, because he’s in federal prison. Instead, Roberts was on with a guest host, Dave Brat.
"We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be,” Roberts told Brat.
Did you get that threat if the left lets them get their way, then the revolution will remain bloodless.
Yes and they see us like the campus radicals of yore, which we are not. They accomplished nothing of substance except to give us Tricky Dick. They are just itching to kill the rest of us who hate the destruction of government of, for and by the people.
Michael Moore's plan to have Biden step down, so Harris gets some exposure, has merit. But if Biden feels he can handle another term, as he indicates, we should ride the Biden express, as long & as far as it will take us. If he falls short in completing another term, he has a good talented progressive, for his back up. We have already witnessed his ability to accomplish an impressively, great amount, with very small Congressional margins. The longer he can remain active and viable as POTUS, the more opportunity Harris has to learn from the old master. Although conservative media has done it's best to downplay & smear Biden's remarkable accomplishments, to keep their audiences loyal, and in the dark, the message is slowly seeping out. (See Hopium's Substack)
We all need to expose the Trump/Heritage Foundation linkage to Project 2025 and the much larger terroristic Christofascist movement and the billionaire/foreign hostiles' conspiracy, that sustains it for what it is, a conspiracy to install a US fascist dictator. Project 2025 and Trump's incredible level of corruption give us all the ammunition we need to take this wannabe dictator out of the running. Even if he has coerced and bought off the Supreme Court & other judges. Here is a link to a PBS Frontline documentary about Mike Flynn, a felonious former Trump National Security Advisor, and now a leader of the Christofascist movement. To be effective our messages have to be very repetitive, just like Trump disinformation.
This video provides us with a sense for the kind of madness we're up against.
I'm sure it's mutual. Hackles on end anywhere in the vicinity. Like tribbles to Klingons. Humans obviously have lost that survival instinct, at least many of us. Not me. My skin crawls at a glimpse of Trump. (M. Scott Peck, "People of the Lie.") From time to time I reiterate my observation that at least early white invaders were self-selected authoritarian followers of religious cults: something concentrated in the DNA? I don't suppose the Ancestry guy on PBS is looking at that.
I read Psychiatrist M. Scott Peck's book, many years ago. But if memory serves me, much of his book was about case histories observing some really messed up patients, and often times how they messed up their children & relatives. Peck ascribed their pathologies to evil. I also recall, near the end of the book, he related the dangers of group think and how it cause groups to select for new additional members based on the idiosyncracies already shared by the group.
So a police department that has issues with brutality, tends to select for similar personality traits in new recruits.
The strange case of Donald Trump and his childhood likely would have made a terrific case study for Peck. Certainly Peck would have noted Trump's narcissism and capacity for capturing cult members and his ability exploit group think. It would be likely that he would make note of Trump's propensity for evil deeds and his ability to fool fellow travelers.
So many Americans have been successfully brainwashed by these far right media outlets. I've watched members of my family, who were once normal "thinking" people become radicals and haters. I no longer recognize them or are able to have a sane, coherent conversation. The change from our parents to sensibly protect us from possibly catastrophic diseases to these anti-vaxxers is horrifying. (Just one example.) I may have cancer and not that long to live but I'm scared to death for my children and grandchildren. At least they have the sense and intelligence to know what is right and true. I fear what next year's 4th of July may bring.
Best wishes on the cancer Dawn. I was diagnosed,in Oct 2017, with stage 4 lung cancer that metastasized to the brain. A craniotomy, ten daily treatments of radiation,two years of triweekly immunotherapy (keytruda) and still chugging along. I wish you wel..
Too bad the magas won't undergo that treatment, it may raise their intelligence.
Thank you and it's good to know you're still here.
@Dawn, I also fear for my family's future. I was thinking that maybe Biden should resign and make Harris President now so that she could run against Trump as an incumbent and be seen as the strong leader of the free world and give the Dems a better chance. As for Hatmann's informative article, the Red coats never left, they have continued lurking, often out of sight. But we can certainly see them now. I will recommend this article to family I will see today.
The red coats, the Nazis, the confederates, the sadists...... Just don't go away! They are like cockroaches, we need to treat them with respect and decency while keeping them from spewing their hatred! The only other option is all out civil war and third world suffering.
I do not want war, but Trump, his minions and Kevin Roberts of the misnamed Heritage Foundation are chomping at the bit to literally start shooting people for the “crime” of wanting government of, for and my the people.
This should alarm everyone, it makes all other conscerns pale
This from Joyce Vances, substack, Civil Discourse
"A week ago, I started my post to you with some comments made by Kevin Roberts, the head of the Heritage Foundation and architect of Project 2025, when he learned Democrats were making plans to take on Project 2025. Roberts said, “Project 2025 will not be stopped,” and that Democrats are “more than welcome to try” to stop it. He concluded by saying, “We will not give up and we will win.”
Now he’s back at it. On Tuesday, Roberts was on Steve Bannon’s War room. It was minus Bannon, of course, because he’s in federal prison. Instead, Roberts was on with a guest host, Dave Brat.
"We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be,” Roberts told Brat.
Did you get that threat if the left lets them get their way, then the revolution will remain bloodless.
Yes and they see us like the campus radicals of yore, which we are not. They accomplished nothing of substance except to give us Tricky Dick. They are just itching to kill the rest of us who hate the destruction of government of, for and by the people.
Michael Moore's plan to have Biden step down, so Harris gets some exposure, has merit. But if Biden feels he can handle another term, as he indicates, we should ride the Biden express, as long & as far as it will take us. If he falls short in completing another term, he has a good talented progressive, for his back up. We have already witnessed his ability to accomplish an impressively, great amount, with very small Congressional margins. The longer he can remain active and viable as POTUS, the more opportunity Harris has to learn from the old master. Although conservative media has done it's best to downplay & smear Biden's remarkable accomplishments, to keep their audiences loyal, and in the dark, the message is slowly seeping out. (See Hopium's Substack)
We all need to expose the Trump/Heritage Foundation linkage to Project 2025 and the much larger terroristic Christofascist movement and the billionaire/foreign hostiles' conspiracy, that sustains it for what it is, a conspiracy to install a US fascist dictator. Project 2025 and Trump's incredible level of corruption give us all the ammunition we need to take this wannabe dictator out of the running. Even if he has coerced and bought off the Supreme Court & other judges. Here is a link to a PBS Frontline documentary about Mike Flynn, a felonious former Trump National Security Advisor, and now a leader of the Christofascist movement. To be effective our messages have to be very repetitive, just like Trump disinformation.
This video provides us with a sense for the kind of madness we're up against.
https://youtu.be/lhRNDsLbOvQ?si=fQocIfB_NYjK8-bD
Thanks for recommending the Flynn documentary. I had no idea how crazy and threatening the movement is.
Will watch it now.
Do your friends and relatives know Trump hates dogs?
I'm sure it's mutual. Hackles on end anywhere in the vicinity. Like tribbles to Klingons. Humans obviously have lost that survival instinct, at least many of us. Not me. My skin crawls at a glimpse of Trump. (M. Scott Peck, "People of the Lie.") From time to time I reiterate my observation that at least early white invaders were self-selected authoritarian followers of religious cults: something concentrated in the DNA? I don't suppose the Ancestry guy on PBS is looking at that.
I read Psychiatrist M. Scott Peck's book, many years ago. But if memory serves me, much of his book was about case histories observing some really messed up patients, and often times how they messed up their children & relatives. Peck ascribed their pathologies to evil. I also recall, near the end of the book, he related the dangers of group think and how it cause groups to select for new additional members based on the idiosyncracies already shared by the group.
So a police department that has issues with brutality, tends to select for similar personality traits in new recruits.
The strange case of Donald Trump and his childhood likely would have made a terrific case study for Peck. Certainly Peck would have noted Trump's narcissism and capacity for capturing cult members and his ability exploit group think. It would be likely that he would make note of Trump's propensity for evil deeds and his ability to fool fellow travelers.
I hope I can say the same for you.