For the majority of Americans who are so poor they barely have to pay income taxes, Scott’s plan is just the latest in a 40-year barrage of assaults and insults coming from the GOP
Correlation doesn’t mean causation, but Scott, Gingrich, Romney, McConnell, Murdoch, Hannity — and (most of) the other usual suspects too many to mention who perpetrate horrible fascist policies while enjoying life’s most favorable circumstances — share key traits: rich, white, male, old, cynical, powerful, far-right, antidemocratic, militaristic, racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, religiously bigoted, self-centered, greedy, a godly sense of privilege, and an utter disdain for the unwashed masses. But first, they are all congenital liars with no conscience. So then, is shameless dishonesty the causation, the glue that binds their shared delusions and malice to their power and position?
Notice how the homegrown template of U.S. oligarchy exactly fits the profile of war criminals running the opposing Russian crime syndicate, which also incessantly lies to and fleeces their hapless citizens, who now must pay the steep price for the sins of their masters — and for being dumb enough to believe state-sanctioned conspiracy theories when they should know better. Americans should sit up and take notice: the Russians are just a little further down the spectrum of an Orwellian dystopia that's in our near future if we don’t change our ways. (Think DeSantis and thought police.)
Also, notice how both “baskets of deplorables” on both continents are mostly of a certain age: either they were just beginning or were in the middle of their careers in business-slash-politics during the heydays of the “Reagan Revolution.” The generation who engineered the inevitable demise of the American middle-class is the same one who now stands to benefit at the expense of future generations. Or, in the words of their inner voice: Hog everything for yourself and screw the kids and their kid’s kids!
From a family and education perspective the ability to raise children in the USA has suffered since it became impossible for one family wage earner to support his/her family. Schools increasingly have been forced to act in loco parentis for a growing percentage of school children from single family house holds, poverty families as well as from 'busy' middle class families. The percentage of 'homeless' children has reached alarming proportions (https://policyadvice dot net/insurance/insights/homelessness-statistics/). Regardless of gender politics we need a national, secure and reliably funded system that enables all parents to be able to afford to have one care-giver at home when our children leave for school, and one present when they return home and need to be listened to, plus urged to do their homework.
Romney's and Senator Scott's claim that "Romney pointed out, though, about 47 percent of Americans in 2012 made so little money that, after applying the standard deduction, they paid no income tax. " should not be mentioned without listing the effective, net income tax rate of all our mega-corporations. Shame on both.
However, our tax system is neither fair, nor effective, and global welfare states do not appear to be leaving a 'happy' permanent 2nd class cohort. Many of us would simply like a no-CPA tax system where all income is taxed at a flat rate. No more generational Rockerfeller or Bill & Melinda Gates perpetual trust funds that are bigger than some countries annual budget. It's neither conservative nor liberal-just a bit of common sense.
Well argued, although a flat tax doesn’t seem as fair as a graduated income tax — especially if it’s not coupled to a corresponding wealth tax on ALL the wealth of the wealthy, beyond just their reported income and at least equal to the steep wealth tax on the middle-class schmuck, whose main form of wealth is home equity wrested from the bank.
Say for instance, a 15% tax (or whatever) on Joe and Jane Lunchbucket’s meager incomes on top of their already hefty payroll taxes, property taxes, vehicle taxes, user “fees” here, there, and everywhere, etc., etc., would dent their modest lifestyle a helluva lot worse than the same percent on the income of your average billionaire struggling to make ends meet, juggling all those yachts, jets, international travel, luxury hotels, mansions, jewels, gold, original artwork, ass-kissing politicians, and such.
Besides, most of Thurston Howell III’s income derives from triple-bank-shot investment vehicles that pay little or no comparative taxes. And, the percent of pain of payroll taxes is also miniscule in comparison, since it’s capped off. Most crooked rich bastards don’t even have “regular” income to tax, and most everything they do from eating to shitting is deductible in one way or another, anyway, depending on how “genius” they are at cheating the system. The middle class picks up the slack to fund the government while their rulers ride for free. That’s the whole point.
I wouldn't say the 15% flat tax is unfair if you are someone who loves the homeless so very much that you would give anything to see 4, 5, or even 10 times as many of them living on our sidewalks. Of course, with Scott's plan, lack of food and medical care would definitely put a cap on their numbers. But the problem for Teach1 is that, with upwards of 60% of the population living outdoors and weak with hunger, who would bury all those dead? Just as now, many of them would be working full time, or at least part time, but add another 15% tax on top of everything else they must pay for would be absolutely devastating. Being poor is the most expensive way to live anyone could ever experience. Believe me - I know. Economic ineguity would no longer be between rich and poor, but between uber rich and homeless. Ahhh! There's nothing like the smell of carrion in the morning. I will give Teach1 credit for knowing what he would like to see, considering he most likely has a sufficient income and would like to buy more with it, but sometimes we really need to think things through. Everything else he had to say really was well reasoned.
As of this posting, over 1,703,000 people have already died from hunger this year worldwide, and it's only March. Even in America, supposedly the most advanced nation on Earth, hunger is inexcusably rampant. This suffering planet needs more of that good old socialism, helping people live healthy and productive lives, and less of the bad, dog-eat-dog, jungle “capitalism” (euphemism for unregulated predation) that steals the quality of life of workers and their families, and too often their actual lives, while mainly benefiting the top predators… and always, always resulting in concentrated monopolies. In medieval times, their gilded towers were palaces of stone surrounded by vast lawns and gardens walling off the common folk; today, they have towers of steel with expansive windows to gaze down at the little people scurrying about at their beck and call.
Forget schoolbook economic jargon; down on the mean streets, real human beings behind the statistics are faithfully slogging to nonunion, low-wage jobs (sometimes two or three) day and night in a frantic, never-ending struggle, working paycheck to paycheck until they die under the oppression of high prices, low wages, and lifelong debt — Easy Street socialism for kings and queens; Dead End capitalism for lowly subjects.
Deepspace, thanks for the link. I just spent an hour reviewing and reading the website. Fascinating and sobering. It was refreshing to bobe up on my global human stats. Be well, Frances
Isn't it amazing when someone learns everything they know about the federal system by defrauding it? If I was caught by the Feds, I'd want them to go away too. Seems his proven strategy of ruining an entity by running it is exactly what he has in mind. But, we should not worry about anything, because he is a religious man. I think that means he gets all the power, and God gets to take all the responsibility.
Trump, Scott, and DeSantis, how can Florida be so lucky? I have to say Rubio is beginning to sound more reasonable than I previously thought.
Good, I hope somebody stops Trump from getting the nomination. Scott is a new thought for this task. I expected DeSantis, Christie, Haley, maybe even Romney. My fear would be the non-trumps could fragment the vote and bring trump the nomination again. I hope they winnow it down quickly. IMO the return of Dumpf to the white house is the worst case scenario.
It is now Friday but Felonious-Fuckery Forges Forward with Fragile egos and Fascist Filchers Foregoing the Fallacy of Saturn & Sun. Evil takes no Furloughs.
Forever we must Fight, for Freedom is a Fleeting Fantasy if not Founded on Fortitude and Foresight.
The letter "F" is a proud member of the alphabet and is free to use as it resides within the public domain (for now). Nonetheless, John wishes to thank the alphabet for making this blithering blabber possible through the excessive use of one of its member letters.
Correlation doesn’t mean causation, but Scott, Gingrich, Romney, McConnell, Murdoch, Hannity — and (most of) the other usual suspects too many to mention who perpetrate horrible fascist policies while enjoying life’s most favorable circumstances — share key traits: rich, white, male, old, cynical, powerful, far-right, antidemocratic, militaristic, racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, religiously bigoted, self-centered, greedy, a godly sense of privilege, and an utter disdain for the unwashed masses. But first, they are all congenital liars with no conscience. So then, is shameless dishonesty the causation, the glue that binds their shared delusions and malice to their power and position?
Notice how the homegrown template of U.S. oligarchy exactly fits the profile of war criminals running the opposing Russian crime syndicate, which also incessantly lies to and fleeces their hapless citizens, who now must pay the steep price for the sins of their masters — and for being dumb enough to believe state-sanctioned conspiracy theories when they should know better. Americans should sit up and take notice: the Russians are just a little further down the spectrum of an Orwellian dystopia that's in our near future if we don’t change our ways. (Think DeSantis and thought police.)
In a recent poll, a whopping 69% of ruskies, albeit waning, are still true-blue Putin believers, even after two weeks of Ukrainian atrocities: https://theconversation.com/putins-public-approval-is-soaring-during-the-russia-ukraine-crisis-but-its-unlikely-to-last-177302
Also, notice how both “baskets of deplorables” on both continents are mostly of a certain age: either they were just beginning or were in the middle of their careers in business-slash-politics during the heydays of the “Reagan Revolution.” The generation who engineered the inevitable demise of the American middle-class is the same one who now stands to benefit at the expense of future generations. Or, in the words of their inner voice: Hog everything for yourself and screw the kids and their kid’s kids!
The Chosen One said it best when confronted with the prospect of a dismal future: “Yeah, but I won’t be here.” - Saint Donald. https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-on-coming-debt-crisis-i-wont-be-here-when-it-blows-up
From a family and education perspective the ability to raise children in the USA has suffered since it became impossible for one family wage earner to support his/her family. Schools increasingly have been forced to act in loco parentis for a growing percentage of school children from single family house holds, poverty families as well as from 'busy' middle class families. The percentage of 'homeless' children has reached alarming proportions (https://policyadvice dot net/insurance/insights/homelessness-statistics/). Regardless of gender politics we need a national, secure and reliably funded system that enables all parents to be able to afford to have one care-giver at home when our children leave for school, and one present when they return home and need to be listened to, plus urged to do their homework.
Romney's and Senator Scott's claim that "Romney pointed out, though, about 47 percent of Americans in 2012 made so little money that, after applying the standard deduction, they paid no income tax. " should not be mentioned without listing the effective, net income tax rate of all our mega-corporations. Shame on both.
However, our tax system is neither fair, nor effective, and global welfare states do not appear to be leaving a 'happy' permanent 2nd class cohort. Many of us would simply like a no-CPA tax system where all income is taxed at a flat rate. No more generational Rockerfeller or Bill & Melinda Gates perpetual trust funds that are bigger than some countries annual budget. It's neither conservative nor liberal-just a bit of common sense.
Well argued, although a flat tax doesn’t seem as fair as a graduated income tax — especially if it’s not coupled to a corresponding wealth tax on ALL the wealth of the wealthy, beyond just their reported income and at least equal to the steep wealth tax on the middle-class schmuck, whose main form of wealth is home equity wrested from the bank.
Say for instance, a 15% tax (or whatever) on Joe and Jane Lunchbucket’s meager incomes on top of their already hefty payroll taxes, property taxes, vehicle taxes, user “fees” here, there, and everywhere, etc., etc., would dent their modest lifestyle a helluva lot worse than the same percent on the income of your average billionaire struggling to make ends meet, juggling all those yachts, jets, international travel, luxury hotels, mansions, jewels, gold, original artwork, ass-kissing politicians, and such.
Besides, most of Thurston Howell III’s income derives from triple-bank-shot investment vehicles that pay little or no comparative taxes. And, the percent of pain of payroll taxes is also miniscule in comparison, since it’s capped off. Most crooked rich bastards don’t even have “regular” income to tax, and most everything they do from eating to shitting is deductible in one way or another, anyway, depending on how “genius” they are at cheating the system. The middle class picks up the slack to fund the government while their rulers ride for free. That’s the whole point.
https://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2012/01/transcript-thom-hartmann-vs-stephen-moore-should-millionaires-get-more-tax-cuts-decembe
I wouldn't say the 15% flat tax is unfair if you are someone who loves the homeless so very much that you would give anything to see 4, 5, or even 10 times as many of them living on our sidewalks. Of course, with Scott's plan, lack of food and medical care would definitely put a cap on their numbers. But the problem for Teach1 is that, with upwards of 60% of the population living outdoors and weak with hunger, who would bury all those dead? Just as now, many of them would be working full time, or at least part time, but add another 15% tax on top of everything else they must pay for would be absolutely devastating. Being poor is the most expensive way to live anyone could ever experience. Believe me - I know. Economic ineguity would no longer be between rich and poor, but between uber rich and homeless. Ahhh! There's nothing like the smell of carrion in the morning. I will give Teach1 credit for knowing what he would like to see, considering he most likely has a sufficient income and would like to buy more with it, but sometimes we really need to think things through. Everything else he had to say really was well reasoned.
As of this posting, over 1,703,000 people have already died from hunger this year worldwide, and it's only March. Even in America, supposedly the most advanced nation on Earth, hunger is inexcusably rampant. This suffering planet needs more of that good old socialism, helping people live healthy and productive lives, and less of the bad, dog-eat-dog, jungle “capitalism” (euphemism for unregulated predation) that steals the quality of life of workers and their families, and too often their actual lives, while mainly benefiting the top predators… and always, always resulting in concentrated monopolies. In medieval times, their gilded towers were palaces of stone surrounded by vast lawns and gardens walling off the common folk; today, they have towers of steel with expansive windows to gaze down at the little people scurrying about at their beck and call.
Forget schoolbook economic jargon; down on the mean streets, real human beings behind the statistics are faithfully slogging to nonunion, low-wage jobs (sometimes two or three) day and night in a frantic, never-ending struggle, working paycheck to paycheck until they die under the oppression of high prices, low wages, and lifelong debt — Easy Street socialism for kings and queens; Dead End capitalism for lowly subjects.
https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/people-and-poverty/hunger-and-obesity/how-many-people-die-from-hunger-each-year/story
Deepspace, thanks for the link. I just spent an hour reviewing and reading the website. Fascinating and sobering. It was refreshing to bobe up on my global human stats. Be well, Frances
Sobering stuff. Be well also.
Isn't it amazing when someone learns everything they know about the federal system by defrauding it? If I was caught by the Feds, I'd want them to go away too. Seems his proven strategy of ruining an entity by running it is exactly what he has in mind. But, we should not worry about anything, because he is a religious man. I think that means he gets all the power, and God gets to take all the responsibility.
Trump, Scott, and DeSantis, how can Florida be so lucky? I have to say Rubio is beginning to sound more reasonable than I previously thought.
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Why thank you. Now, I'll probably get booted for spelling out the most popular word in the world: *U** .
(Gotta ease into it slowly.)
Good, I hope somebody stops Trump from getting the nomination. Scott is a new thought for this task. I expected DeSantis, Christie, Haley, maybe even Romney. My fear would be the non-trumps could fragment the vote and bring trump the nomination again. I hope they winnow it down quickly. IMO the return of Dumpf to the white house is the worst case scenario.
Florida, Faux Newz, Fraud...
It is now Friday but Felonious-Fuckery Forges Forward with Fragile egos and Fascist Filchers Foregoing the Fallacy of Saturn & Sun. Evil takes no Furloughs.
Forever we must Fight, for Freedom is a Fleeting Fantasy if not Founded on Fortitude and Foresight.
The letter "F" is a proud member of the alphabet and is free to use as it resides within the public domain (for now). Nonetheless, John wishes to thank the alphabet for making this blithering blabber possible through the excessive use of one of its member letters.
Fck the fcking fckrs forever and never forget or forgive their fckery in the foreseeable future. (Got lots of F's but getting low on the letter U.)