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Oct 26Liked by Thom Hartmann

I am not the first to say this but it bears repeating. None of the self identified Maga conservative, nationalist "Christians" are actually Christians. These are all, every one fake Christians. They worship not Jesus but all that Jesus came to quietly rebel against from the Old Testament. Do they love their neighbor, do they forgive, do they feed the poor, protect the weakest among us, are they compassionate or do they idolize the wealthy, the mega-rich and promote violence to achieve their ends of dominance over others who do not think like them? Do they believe in the individual's freedom of expression and religious ideas, as did the Founding fathers at least in principle if not always in practice, or do they believe in controlling the thoughts of their young and suppressing freedom of thought by banning books? Which book would Jesus burn? Which woman would Jesus execute for accusing a man of rape? Which man would Jesus condemn to death for some dubious crime? He would not. These people are not followers of Jesus and have no right to call themselves Christian.

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My friend coined a term: "Chrino" Christian in name only. Good don't you think? Pass that along to get that going will you!

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Thom, I have been singing this tune and sounding warmings for years, and people have always said I have been overreacting. Chilling.

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I too have been saying this for a long time. I have a great interest in WWII, especially the European theater. I have watched just about every documentary available & have read many books. I've been saying that trump is acting like Hitler for years, & it's just this year that people are actually leaning into that thought & have come to realize that what folks like you & I have been saying are right!

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So... do something.

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And what makes you assume I am not doing anything? Pretty arrogant assumption on your part.

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Chill. We gotta cut out this crap. You're making us sound like THEM.

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Prove it. So much kvetching...

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I don't really have to prove anything to you. You sound like a judgemental jerk.

I don't have to tell you how much money I have donated, but it is substantial along witb working with local and state groups to spread the word and educate people.

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Katherine, since you don't like being accused, don't accuse others. You say that Daniel sounds like a judgemental jerk,Well you sound like a petulant child.

Daniels point is that RR's pages are filled with whiners and complaining do nothings, He on the other hand has a leadership role in registering people to vote and having themvote in Florida.

What have you done besides bitch.?

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Thanks but no thanks for the arrogant manslpaining .Obviously, reading comprehension is not your strong point since I already said what I had been doing, not that I owe you or anyone else an explanation. And how you can characterize my intial post as "whining" is beyond me.

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Chill. We gotta cut out this crap. You're making us sound like THEM.

To both of you.

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You are Exabit A. Those that do nothing are complicit.

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Troll much, D Solomon?

Care to share something worth reading?

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🙄

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Oct 26Liked by Thom Hartmann

knocking on doors today, bro!:)

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Oct 26Liked by Thom Hartmann

Malcolm Nance, 8-29-24, “…What geniuses in the prospective Trump II administration have not factored in is the stone-cold fact that there are over 400 million firearms in the United States. Undocumented immigrants, their families and friends and allies will have access to enough of them to make the effort rival the Civil War. 

It doesn’t take calculus to factor in that even if only 1% of the firearms available were acquired by deportation rejectionists, that would be 4 million semiautomatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns that could be used to resist any deportation effort.  There are enough illegal, stolen, or even legal firearms that anyone who wanted to defend with weapons could easily acquire one.  Mass deportation would lead to raging gun battles around the country by people defending their families and themselves from an unjust policy. 

Do not think it would just be allies of the families in revolt.  This would quickly cascade into forcing political parties, members of the military, and whole military commands to decide whether to allow presidential injustice or mutiny, as the orders would be blatantly unlawful no matter what the Supreme Court rules. 

To be sure, a Trump II administration will not be exerting themselves to find the 75,000 Canadians, the 50,000 Irish included in the 579,000 European immigrants living illegally in the USA.  MAGA’s hatred and desire to rip the nation apart is based on a dream to cleanse it of people of color and to halt their falling demographic dominance in America.  It is a bitter and hateful policy that Trump is gambling that white Americans are racist enough to risk mass murder, concentration camps, and the ending of the American democracy to maintain the white dominance of the country.  This could devolve from respect for the Rule of Law to a “Constitutional” dictatorship rapidly, with the legal blessing of a corrupt Supreme Court. 

Recall everything the Nazi party did was also lawful under the German Supreme Court, including theft, deportation, mass murder, and genocide.  Laws are only as good as the people.  When evil men control the laws, they also control whether you live or die.

Perhaps that is Trump’s master plan after all.”

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Oct 26Liked by Thom Hartmann

What you quoted Malcolm Nance saying is what I have been attempting to warn people about for a year.

There are 400 Million guns in this country.

Women are also not going to give up their rights without a fight.

We are not going back!

What Tucker Carlson said? Right - jackass - forgot about that Second Amendment didn’t you?

Why do these foolish Republicans keep telling people that Kamala Harris is going to make people give up their guns? She owns a gun. So does Tim Walz. She also knows that WE WON’T give up our guns.

She and the military leadership supporting her know that the American people won’t give up their guns.

Threaten women’s right to Vote Republicans?

Out fathers fought in WW2 and Korea and other wars to preserve that right.

We will fight to keep it

It’s called “Consent of the Governed”

It’s in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

What about all the other Americans - who are not - White, Christian, Males

They won’t go back either!!!

Elon and others - UNIONS will not be broken so owners can bleed employees dry.

Owners tried in the past and it didn’t work, but it got bloody.

And that was before the country was flooded with guns.

The Second Amendment is the reason the United States will not be taken over by a corrupted Supreme Court, a bunch of billionaires and an religious zealots bent on creating a theocracy.

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Kay, all Putin in the deep state New World order oligarchs want is to destroy America. They want to keep us in the dark ages!

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My ancestors were Vikings and pirates. Maybe the Almighty planned it that way.

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That’s what Project 2025 aka Mandate for Leadership has planned. We the people - average working and low income Americans will be treated like serfs in a feudal system America. Just like Russia under the Tsars.

That’s why I keep pointing out the guns.

Vikings were serfs

Pirates weren’t serfs

Those with weapons aren’t serfs

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Kay there are liberal airheads like Stephanie Miller who take on the mantle of self righteousness and would not own a gun, even in self defense, It is altogether centuries to late to parade under the self rightous banner of ant gun, they are out there and they aren't coming back. The way to control firearms is via ammunition, gun without ammo is lousy baseball bat.

The government , an authoritarian government, can halt the production of ammunition, and what is out there will be quickly expended. In combat, thousands of rounds are expended for every round that hits a target., It was even worse with an automatic fire weapon.

I use to ask if a person would rather die fighting, or climb into a cattle car to be exterminated later, but I know the answer, It is the same as to why a person will dig their own grave, or climb into a 55 gallon drum.... hope.

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My late mother, a Presbyterian, told me if every Jew in the Warsaw Getto, killed a Nazi, the Germans wouldn’t have slaughtered so many Jews.

She was a child during WW2.

We have Finnish heritage. We fight. Our ancestors fought the Russians.

We fight - we don’t give in.

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KayG ... a kindred soul! Same here: maternal grandparents immigrated from Finland in the 1880s, and many relatives fought the invaders/thieves of the Karolinskas

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Oct 26Liked by Thom Hartmann

Daddy, go to hell already. Your daughter is acting out, Tucker, because you ignore her emotional needs for support and guidance because you are too transfixed on the Big Daddy Phallus Worship. Jesus did say, those without sin, cast the first damn stone and the Pharisees all walked away. Speaking of pigs. And witch hunts. While the double standard persists in ALL walks of life for women, MAGA celebrates their every right to freedom of speech to be as indiscreet as they want --to call women of high standing whores and teasers, they want to make rape a misdemeanor, they want to be like big Daddy and grab pussies and abuse women to prove their masculinity...rape them and discard them and take no respnsibility for fatherhood. This is the allure to the fools that MAGA are. They are too full of themselves and their cruelty is inflating their egos--this is how torturers barricade their consciences. They are ready to kill and lynch again to prove their masculinity. These weak men think that dominating women will make them powerful. It only makes them repulsive! and murderers because women are already dying from their abuse of our rights. Women get your YAYA's up and get your neighbors out to please VOTE while we have a VOTE. OUR DAUGHTERS AND GRANDDAUGHTERS will not stay and get beaten, raped, forced to carry a rapist's children. Time has come today.

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As a man, and strong supporter of Harris and despiser of Trump, I wholly endorse what you say Lynn. What still puzzles me is the large number of women, notably white non-college women who support Trump. They simply don't care about Trump's deficits and misogyny? I hear that Trump is the right's "Avatar". For rural white women in Wisconsin who plan to vote for Trump, he is the avatar for what exactly? If the Democrats have failed them what are Republicans going to do to make up for the Democrats' deficits? From my perspective there is no viable plan, no useful policy. I just do not get it. If anyone has any deep insights to help this "coastal elite progressive white male" I would appreciate it. Forever pointing at immigrants as the source of problems rather than at the top 1% syphoning money away from the bottom 99% is a tired old story but it seems it still has significant appeal.

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My MAGA sister was in town from FL. She is very well educated - BUT has been fed Lies through the Trump media and echo chamber. Including that Kamala Harris will take away our guns. We got into over that and my Michigan relatives joined in to try and straighten her out. No avail. The lying MAGA media has to be defeated too. They were let go by the courts and the insurrectionist controlled House of Representatives.

The whole lot has to go.

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Lynn, what I found extremely odd about what Sean Hannity was saying, was that Trump was going to spank the bad little girls, he did not mention spanking the bad little boys?

I think women are doing a much more commendable job at keeping a civilized society then men are. I also think that women are more intelligent than men because they are allowed to have a conscience. Everything we do in life is right or wrong, moral or immoral. If you don't have much of a conscience you don't have much good character. American males are raised to be thugs. Putting them in charge of the family, is like putting a fox in charge of the hen house. In order to be intelligent one must be right, so one must care whether one is right or wrong!

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Lynn, I agree with your sentiments, totally.

I must demur on one item. The Pharisees. The Pharisees were Greek Educated stoic Jews.

They were a group of laymen and scribes who opposed the Sadducees, the party of the high priesthood. The Pharisees believed in:

Oral tradition: The Pharisees believed that oral tradition, or "the unwritten Torah", was binding and passed down by Moses.

Resurrection: The Pharisees believed in the resurrection of the dead.

Priestly purity: The Pharisees believed that all Jews should be priestly.

Providence: The Pharisees believed in providence or fate.

The Pharisees were meticulous observers of the Law, as interpreted by the Scribes, or Soferim. Their beliefs became the foundation of Rabbinic Judaism after the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD. The Mishna, the first part of the Talmud, incorporated the teachings of the Pharisees on Jewish law.

The Sadducees were a Jewish religious and political party that was active in Judea from the second century BCE until the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE. They were a traditional ruling class of priests and wealthy merchants who were part of the Jewish elite.

Here are some things to know about the Sadducees:

Beliefs

The Sadducees were conservative and only accepted the written Law of Moses, which is the first five books of the Bible. They rejected doctrines that were not in the Law, such as the existence of angels, resurrection, and retribution in a future life.

Power

The Sadducees controlled the Sanhedrin, the governing body for both religious and civil issues, and the Temple in Jerusalem. They also had the military support of the Roman rulers of Palestine.

Rivalry

The Sadducees were in constant conflict with the Pharisees, another major Jewish political and religious movement at the time. Both groups claimed authority over Jewish society, but their sources of authority differed greatly.

Dissolution

Why the phuck would a gentile get in the middle of such an internecine squabblie is beyond me, but Christianity is, after all, just another Jewish heresy.

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William, you are a wealth of information on Jewish law. You know more about Jewish history than most Jews. May I ask how your interest came about? It's fascinating. You have said you are not Jewish. Your take on the war in the Middle East is much like mine and some of our US Generals, but it is a minority opinion in the US, as evidenced on college campuses. I'd love you to take on Robert Reich and Bernie Sanders, who align themselves with the Palestinians, while asking the IDF to fight handcuffed.

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In their guts, even cult followers know Trump is nuts. They know he's old.

Many of us have already voted. https://election.lab.ufl.edu/early-vote/2024-early-voting/ My wife has been working the polls. Virtually everyone she saw was a senior citizen, and our job is to get out the Gen Z vote, which can generate a blue tsunami. Although we are a minority party in Florida, we think that millions of "No Party" voters trend heavily with us. And as counterpunchers, Trump underperformed by 13 % in the Republican primary.

1. Uncle Sam needs you! https://www.mobilize.us/ (And me.)

2. Please repeatedly post "not suckers or losers" comments in social media. According to Facebook, there are 4 million veterans and active duty members on Facebook, as well as 12.5 million family members and 242 million friends with veterans or active duty members. Military sites, veterans' organizations, historical sites.

Vote vets has already flipped many 2016 and 2020 Trump voters.

3. It's up to people like you who are on social media.... when you comment you'll see what I mean. Many of the people involved are dependents, family members, friends and neighbors who are interested in the military and or national security and for whom this is news. Takes repetition and substantiation by people they trust.

I am a Vietnam combat veteran -- probably the lone survivor from my units. I have been a "veteran" since Jan 21, 1968. The grandchildren (or great-grandchildren) of my late colleagues want to hear from someone like you.

When you post on say a FB history site, you may start a conversation with potential voters who may flip on this basis.... I'm getting a number of positive comments.

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FT 6 is texting to 1,210,938 unregistered folk in MI this afternoon.

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Join Swifties for Kamala & Voters of Tomorrow in calling & texting battle-ground states while watching the Eras Tour! Calling into North Carolina before the show & texting into Ohio, Florida!!!, and Arizona to make sure folks have a plan to vote. A training will be provided before every shift.

https://www.mobilize.us/votersoftomorrow/event/725870/

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Also BYOP is still registering new Democrats in MI, WI, NC, NV. https://www.fieldteam6.org/free-byop-textbanks

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Many people are canceling subscriptions to major newspapers afraid to endorse a presidential candidate as if both were equal. I haven’t subscribed to these newspapers because I’ve known their failure to expose the corruption in our education system due to cowardice for decades now. Taking education out from under us was the beginning of the end of democracy. Trump symbolizes the end. Take a look at WhiteChalkCrime.com and learn what these publications have been doing to us for decades. Cowardice has always been democracy’s biggest enemy.

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Reading all these reports, it seems that these are Americans completely untethered from the idea of America (and America is an idea more than it is a nationality). They are polluted with ginned-up rage; there is no sign of Christ in their Christianity; their justice is always violence; and their filthy lucre is their speech. The GOP doesn't care about anything but winning elections and becoming the viceroys of this descent into madness, because the pay is good.

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The polls are not "news." They are, at best, opinions....

Gen Z especially, have never voted previously and therefore are "unlikely" and uncounted by the polls. FT 6 says it has added 5 mil new Democrats in the swing states.

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Daniel, in David Feldman's most recent report, he does an excellent job of explaining that in detail and what they mean. It was interesting when the state was tied, but the Democratic senate candidate was winning by 5 points. Feldman pointed out that voters won't vote for the Democratic Senate candidate and also vote for Trump.

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Oct 26Liked by Thom Hartmann

My husband and I are extremely concerned about the possibility that Trump might get elected. We have already voted. We were wondering if you have any suggestions in regarding how we might protect ourselves if he does, like hiding our money somewhere and stocking extra food.

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Bizarre that we're even thinking that way, right? I don't know what to do other than prepare to resist...

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Sherry unless you stock piles of bags of rice, you can't hide away enough food to sustain you If Trump wins you are not looking at a short term situation like a hurricane. And hiding your money, where, banks are accessible to the government

My wife has very considerable 401a and 457a fund which she has not tapped but must before November next year. We are going to close it out and buy a Cashiers check. In January.

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Thom failed to mention that in addition to people with Hispanic family names, Miller et al. intend to also focus on pink triangles too - the LGBTQ community - trans people especially - as if any of us have control over our birth anomalies. It remains to be seen if citizenship revocation and expulsion or just imprisonment will be applied. I guess for Evangelicals, all of whom give preference to the OT vs the New Testament - stoning might be their preferred treatment. It sure looks like 1950's racism is back with a vengeance.

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I have been saying all along that Trump is just the set-up guy. Musk will be the closer.

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Jon, I said something similar to that on Reich's substack this morning. The billionaire class is not afraid of Trump. Trump is their tool to get more money and power. They want Trump to create a deep recession because they use recessions to acquire a bigger slice of the whole economy and pull further away from us in their portion of money and power. Inequality will increase with heavy tariffs and a deep recession. The working class will be more financially insecure when they must pay an additional $4000 per year for necessities due to the added expense of the tariffs. They want Trump even though I'm sure they laugh at him and his cult. By the way, Bezos now owns less than 10% of Amazon's stock. Black Rock, Vanguard, State Street, and some other Corporations trying to own the whole world own the rest.

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Gloria you don't know how correct you are. Banks, financiers hate inflation, with a passion, but they love deflation /depression because it enables them to foreclose and acquire real wealth, meaning property, which they seil sell later, and reap a profit.

I now a guy who self financed his home,preferably to struggling people, required a down payment, not too large mind you, and when they could no longer afford the payments, he foreclosed on them pocketed the profits and started all over again .A popular scheme around military installations, because troops always move on, and aren't in a position to sublet, manage or oversee their property.

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A quick Google search will tell you that historically, the wealthiest individuals tend to become even wealthier during and after a recession, and the reasons why. Even if everyone overall loses wealth, as in the Great Recession, the wealthiest widen the gap between themselves and everyone else, which is their game. Inequality increases. The billionaires, with their keen eye for opportunities, are eagerly waiting for the next recession to exploit it to their advantage. They will gladly use Trump for their purposes while the rest of us become more financially insecure.

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I don't have to google search that Gloria I've know that since 1980.

There were two classes of people during the depression, the have nots and the ultra wealthy.

All of those high value classic cars like the Cord, even the Rolls Royce, the Auburn's were built during the depression.

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Oct 26Liked by Thom Hartmann

These people are sick and twisted. Their focus on everyone else’s sex lives is beyond bizarre and sick. They used to hide under rocks. Now, they are mainstream republican psychos. All the normal republicans have left the party. Damn. When I get to be dictator, all these Christian fascists will be kicked to the curb.

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Why do billionaires rig their news coverage for Trump? Follow the money with this interactive map!

https://thedemlabs.org/2024/10/26/billionaires-rig-their-news-coverage-for-profits/

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Oct 26Liked by Thom Hartmann

My husband and I have already voted. I listen to your podcast faithfully. We moved out of Florida and back to New England for several reasons. One was for medical care and the other was thinking we might be safer if Trump gets elected. That possibility boggles our mind. We would totally appreciate any suggestions you might have about how we might protect ourselves from the fascist monster...

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Good morning Thom, The Hiiden History of the American Dream is in my hot little hands. Vromans called last week that it was in and I zipped down the hill to grab it. 100,000 is a significant number. Congrats. Anything good is worth the effort, so, obviously, your Substack is worth the effort!

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I bought two copies; one to read, and another to donate to my local library 📖📚

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Oct 27Liked by Thom Hartmann

I see Jackbooted thugs breaking down doors to get at 'illegal immigrants'! And you know of course there will be no legal reviews of any of this as trump will do away with any of that pesky legal stuff! Nothing must be let allowed to get in the way of his purification of the country, right? And then when they come for the Jackbooted thugs that aren't quite loyal enough, then what? Who's going to stand up for them? NO ONE, for 2 reasons, no one will care that they are getting just desserts &/or there will be no one left! Either way they can be eliminated like the rest of us.

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It feels more like 524 AD than it does 2024 AD, IMHO. The right wing Christians and other religions of faith, not facts, have resisted change for thousands of years! They are mostly responsible for this mess we are in. They support unlimited greed, lying, poor parenting, poverty for others, sadism, slavery, misogyny, torture, anarchy... Yet they blame the people who got them a decent standard of living and human rights for the destruction of the human race!

It sounds like the New World order oligarchs have enough immigrants, now they want to kick the unproductive ones out of the country, they don't plan on creating more jobs, partly because I don't think they are intelligent enough. They are rulers not leaders. Russia and Hungary, their population has not grown in about 30 years. The right-wing fascist think tanks like the idea of private ownership of government and no unions. Next to go will be the minimum wage and social spending. First to go will be anyone who criticizes the fuhrer or any of his policies or accomplices... It may take less than one year for America to lose its World reserve currency status because all of our debt is not backed up by gold but by the"full faith and credit of the United States government". Will our allies have any faith left in America when it pulls out of NATO and gives Ukraine to Russia? Or when we are ran by a madman with dementia? This may have been planned back when Ronald Reagan was President, tear down the wall, convert China to fascism and make them the new world reserve currency after looting the treasury with unfunded wars, free trade, immigration, tax breaks for the rich, bank bailouts, offshore banking, capitalist healthcare...

The right wing cult has been groomed since birth to need someone else to do their thinking for them. A Daddy figure, cause males don't want a strong mommy figure. Any male or female without a conscience, who doesn't care about right and wrong is unfit to be a leader! It would be hell being a female and having to have some stupid male rule the roost. The males and females need to be able to think for themselves and not need an authoritarian figure. The churches have made mush out of their brains before they have any ability to reason, while still toddlers! Teaching them to believe in the supernatural, and teaching lies as the absolute truth, teaching them to hate the other, teaching them that Jesus and other supernatural saviors are just a credit card to sin with...

While the national guard are busy knocking on immigrans doors, the other governmental police will be knocking on American citizens doors. Even in the blue States. I'm sure the corrupt Supreme Court of the United States will not object, as long as they can accept tax-free tips.

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Quite a rant Bob, but I love it every single word even the misspellings

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