The Iroquois were fierce, aggressive, and put their enemies through the gauntlet to prove themselves or punish them. The gauntlet of public opinion must continue to rise in rebellion in the streets and in social media and take back our government from this cabal. this attack on law firms and the media is disgusting. Thanks for your daily contributions to raise the consciousness of the masses.
I am with you Lynn but the streets througout the nation must spontaneously erupt, not just in big cities like NY, Portland or Seattle, because Trump is waiting for an excuse to declare martial law, he has already declared the insurrection act.
Jim Stewardson and I believe this regime is planning on invoking the Insurrection Act, potentially as early as 4/20/25, in order to enact martial law. As a first step, Trump signed this order yesterday, illegally invoking the wartime Alien Enemies Act of 1798. This has already been blocked by a federal judge, but the regime is already trying to get the judge impeached. It will move fast to the criminal theocratic cult masquerading as SCOTUS, who will almost certainly allow this unconstitutional crime to continue https://www.mind-war.com/p/collapse-the-political-system-has
Mr. Farrar, I believe my response to Mr. Hartmann is near the end of the list of comments. My comments usually are near the end of the list because I am slow to respond. I am sandwiched between Mr. Solomon and you, I think. I am pleased to see we are so close to agreement today.
Do what I just did, go to the point where you can read the whole thread and do a ctrl f search for gerald. All I can find is your response to me and one to Hobbs.
You are so correct. Hitler did the same thing by attacking lawyers who defended his victims and judges who ruled against him. By 1936 the Nazi “Justice” system was just that, but he went even farther by setting up the “People’s Court” under Roland Freisler as a separate court system to try “enemies of the state”. Most of its victims were put to death.
We have to stop him. Stay safe and watch your six.
Those big firms have the first and fifth amendments and the culture pattern to protect them.
The little guys, E.G. people on SSI and Medicaid, ironically many who were MAGATs, don't..
It seems to me that Trump is his own worst enemy. We have the capacity to take advantage. I don't know it as a fact, but I expect that most of the members of the law firms he has attacked are Republicans. I knew many members of those firms. Some appeared in my cases -- almost always representing big cats -- E.G. big business. Add to this his attack on judges. Maybe multipy it, square it. Every member of Congress who is a lawyer needs to be asked whether they accept the rule of law.
The easiest way to beat Trump in this atmosphere is Feathers of Hope. We don't control Congress but we're only a couple of votes away from shared government. Check out the Republicans who may be helpful. https://jerryweiss.substack.com/
The Iroquois could manage a democracy because they weren't saddled with huge disparities in wealth and poverty; capitalism tends to exacerbate such disparities. Acceding to the demands of the wealthy while ignoring the needs of the poor is the natural result; ultimately the rich want everything, as we are seeing now.
Thanks for the Jeffrey, you are absolutely correct. What works at small scale does not work at large scale, Not everything is scalable.
I am not sure that capitalism is the correct termor concept, by which to describe our economic/political environment. It is , for many, the only tool that we have because it was gifted us by Karl Marx.
Karl also gifted us with words like Bourgeoisie and proletariat because in his day there was no such thing as a middle class, which itself was lower, middle, and upper.for him there was only the bourgeoisie, by which he meant mean who owned the means of production and those who worked for those who owned the means of production. Of the ruling elite, the upper class, he had nothing to say, perhaps because they were the ones who financed him as The League of Just Men.
The closest one can come to a middle class in the 18th and 19th Century was the "middlings", which included shop keepers, freemen, guild, craftsmen.
I don't knolw. Comunnist societies existed before Marx was born. I always refer to "The Derserted Village." 1770. The Theory of Moral Sentiments was written in 1759 and An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations in 1776.
I grew up ten miles from Wampum, Pa..... and about 15 miles from Old Harmony. Wampum was the means of exchange.... Old Harmony and Old Economy were communist towns.
I wasn't talking about communist societies Daniel, I was talking about Marx's concepts of bourgeoisie and proletariat, Not communism
I know communism predates Marx, the Iroquois confederation was communist.
White kids that were kidnapped and adopted into the Iroquois didn't want to return and those that were forced to return often ran away to join the tribe.
I know that you know of Oneida dinner ware, it was produced by what was then a communist society.
Again I was not talking of communism. It seems that the mere mention of Marx evokes and image of communism, and that is the problem.
Yes Mr. Hobbs you are correct. have you read THE DAWN OF EVERYTHING by David Graeber and David Wengrow? They are, or were, pioneering cultural anthropologists. Graeber has died.
The courts and judges, along with these lawyers and law firms are our last line of defense against trump. If they fail to live up to the challenge, America will fall. We the people are hard at work, protesting, marching and bombarding their representative's with calls, post card's and town halls. It's only a matter of time before this administration will not be tolerating any of this. God help us Thank You,Thom, I'm thankful we have you, and will reStack ASAP 💯 🙏 🇺🇦 💔
I worked for the US District Court of Kansas for 28 years. Judges don’t like to be told what to do. In fact, they can’t tell each other what to do. Even a chief judge in the court has no power to tell another judge what to do. Of course an appellate court can overrule them, but that’s different. I have more hope in the judiciary than any other institution to do act independently, and that they will follow the law, at least as they interpret it. The majority of them won’t be bullied. Let justice prevail.
The orange slime and his henchman import are worse than any mafia. Indeed they’re Putin’s echo of malicious laughter. Whatever lawyers are left, need to group together to mobilize.
'Then, Trump’s billionaire buddies (most notably, but not exclusively, Elon Musk) poured billions of dollars into elections across the country, so profoundly cowing Republican politicians afraid of suffering the same fate as Adam Kinzinger or Liz Cheney that they’d go along with — and, with heads bowed, publicly justify — even the most absurd of Trump’s ideas and pronouncements.'
I don't believe this for a second. It isn't mere fear of being primaries that has cowed R politicians. It is that they have been compromised by Putin. The RNC servers must've contained information so damaging to R's that they turned on a dime to become Trump sycophants instead of bitter opposition.
VoteVets has begun attaching donvict’s abuses and crimes to specific, named elected Republicans, who so far fear donvict more than they fear their constituents. The entire Democratic Party needs to apply that technique across the board - loudly and relentlessly. It’s past time to drop the gloves.
I am a member and I ask them to talk to Jerry Weiss....
Fred Wellman has a combined Vote Vets, Midas broadcast... Just a few minues ago he discussed torture.... This takes me back to GWB and Git-Mo. My colleague, Moe Davis was the chief prosecutir who refused to accept torture induced evidence.
We only need a few Congeressional Republicans who remember the oath. The 1953 Code of Conduct. The Geneva Accords.
Trump has viewed unscrupulous attorneys and corrupt courts or courts which can be manipulated as his special tools to bully and intimidate people. Now, bullying and intimidating attorneys or judges who might oppose his action and tactics are prime targets. He must be tagged with the label of someone who exploits and abuses our justice system to accomplish his dirty work. This theme must be central to all stories and explanations for his behavior and must be reiterated clearly at every opportunity. His explicit strategy is to misappropriate court protections and policies designed to assure fairness and equality to benefit only himself. Our courts must not allow themselves to be used and abused by the rich and powerful and we must be reminding them every day that they exist to dispense justice for everyone. Trump's pattern is conspicuous, and the spotlight should be on his intentional and strategic misuse of the law and the courts as a highly corrupt, mob-style legal bully.
Good question. Some of Trump's attorneys have been disbarred and I'm sure more will in the future. But while they are working on a given case, I suspect that judges are required to put up with a lot of skullduggeries to avoid being accused of bias and to protect the client's interests, even though we all know that the pigheaded orange client is the most culpable in these cases. I am really hoping that the judge in the case involving the flights to El Salvadore locks up the clowns that have been playing stupid games with him for contempt, but he doesn't want to jeopardize the victims and will likely give them slack in hopes of getting cooperation at some point. This is three-dimensional chess and there are angles we cannot see in all likelihood.
Thanks Thom for revealing another element of Trump and minions attempts to take down the republic. The very people involved in this destruction already have money power and influence beyond the rest of us, that is, they are beneficiaries of the system they are tearing down. Are we dealing with a selfish cabal of narcissists who want everything for themselves only? If they impoverish most of us who will buy their products and services? Doesn't heir greedy push for more and more now hurt them in the long run?
It is shocking to observe that not a single Republican legislator appears to have a functional spine, much less a moral compass. For that matter, neither do most Democrats. I think that American voters on both sides of the aisle fail to realize that nearly all their legislators are dim bulbs. MTG and Tuberville are the norm, not exceptions. Thanks to Citizens United, nearly all are selected by the super-rich to do what they are told.
I spent the majority of my career in Washington, so I had to periodically interact with Capitol Hill denizens. During my first Pentagon tour as a junior officer, I developed a reputation as a ghost-buster - the who-ya-gonna-call guy. That increasingly required interactions with Congress.
Most new bills are written by their donors' lobbyists without regard to unintended consequences for government excellence. As everybody in DC is tuned all day to WII-FM (What's In It For Me), I learned to tactfully point out destructive elements of new bills in a way that they could view as politically consequential in order to encourage trimming away the bad stuff or adding some good stuff.
What we seem to be witnessing today is that the pretense of voter representation has been torn away like the Wizard of Oz curtain, as the oligarchs now brazenly rule rather than pretend to legislate through their minions on Capitol Hill.
When the Extreme Sport of Injustice granted TFG almost complete immunity from wrongdoing while functioning as chief executive, they basically signed a blank arrest warrant for every person in 'murka. Biden could have used this, but very unfortunately did not. Biden had lost most of his mojo by then, and like the flailing D brand, he spent his final six months moping around like a spoiled kid. He said TFG was a threat, but he did nothing to thwart that observation, so now we have EOs saying officers of the courts cannot do their jobs in those courts. What else is left?
Actually, if rednecks in Wyoming are screaming at tyranny loving federal reps., it appears the cracks are becoming visible in the unsteady ship of state. We are talking about a few thousand insurrectionists again, maybe 10k, who have basically intimidated millions of free citizens in relatively high places to run for cover, taking their posh lifestyles with them. Who will have our backs? We will, we must, or this party is over. I wonder out loud how many haters are now feeling queasy, knowing that they REALLY, REALLY HATE bowing and scraping to some fat jerk and its bully sycophants? I grew up in redneck country, and although I rejected those values long ago, I am pretty certain that the last thing they will allow is for some SUIT telling them how to brush their teeth and keep their mouths shut. The Perfect Storm is a few big waves away.
As a retired lawyer, I fully understand the significance of what is happening. I would suggest that Mump should be careful what they wish for. If the only recourse left for those who love this country, its Constitution, and its ideals is the “Mangione option”, someone is very likely to use it. Maybe more than one such someone. That we should be placed in that position is abhorrent. But it is the logical outcome of what they are doing.
Yes, if those disbarred care or not may be important. If Trump does not care well, he could just tell them they still are an attorney by exec order. T makes things up.
The display of their fascism with the car commercial done on the White House driveway was the overt move. This move is not meant for public scrutiny.
Take down or co-opt the big boys with the money and the rest will be easy. Just stick to the Roy Cohn rules of attack attack attack, deny everything, and declare victory. You can't do that when the lawyers and judges work against you instead of FOR YOU and your fascism.
Taking the "try" out of trials is the goal. If we want our democracy, none of us can stop "trying". Folks, let's educate and encourage others---they just closed that department too.
Glad you are not letting them do this in the dark, Thom.
The Iroquois were fierce, aggressive, and put their enemies through the gauntlet to prove themselves or punish them. The gauntlet of public opinion must continue to rise in rebellion in the streets and in social media and take back our government from this cabal. this attack on law firms and the media is disgusting. Thanks for your daily contributions to raise the consciousness of the masses.
Thanks Lynn I appreciated your thoughts. The greed of this cabal as you put it never ceases to amaze me.
Well said Lynn!!
I am with you Lynn but the streets througout the nation must spontaneously erupt, not just in big cities like NY, Portland or Seattle, because Trump is waiting for an excuse to declare martial law, he has already declared the insurrection act.
Jim Stewardson and I believe this regime is planning on invoking the Insurrection Act, potentially as early as 4/20/25, in order to enact martial law. As a first step, Trump signed this order yesterday, illegally invoking the wartime Alien Enemies Act of 1798. This has already been blocked by a federal judge, but the regime is already trying to get the judge impeached. It will move fast to the criminal theocratic cult masquerading as SCOTUS, who will almost certainly allow this unconstitutional crime to continue https://www.mind-war.com/p/collapse-the-political-system-has
How can an EO prevent people from entering a federal building ?
An executive order can't but armed guards like the US Marhsalls or a private service can.
So true. So obvious. No?
Mr. Farrar, I could not agree with you any more than I already do. Please see my response to Mr. Hartmann.
Where is that response Gerald. I have the whole thread open and my ctrl F search only reveals this response and the one that so so true
Mr. Farrar, I believe my response to Mr. Hartmann is near the end of the list of comments. My comments usually are near the end of the list because I am slow to respond. I am sandwiched between Mr. Solomon and you, I think. I am pleased to see we are so close to agreement today.
Do what I just did, go to the point where you can read the whole thread and do a ctrl f search for gerald. All I can find is your response to me and one to Hobbs.
You might be right, and that is the reason we need to cut it off at the pass. Feathers of Hope. Hope you see what people like Murkowski are saying....
Thom,
You are so correct. Hitler did the same thing by attacking lawyers who defended his victims and judges who ruled against him. By 1936 the Nazi “Justice” system was just that, but he went even farther by setting up the “People’s Court” under Roland Freisler as a separate court system to try “enemies of the state”. Most of its victims were put to death.
We have to stop him. Stay safe and watch your six.
Steve Dundas
Those big firms have the first and fifth amendments and the culture pattern to protect them.
The little guys, E.G. people on SSI and Medicaid, ironically many who were MAGATs, don't..
It seems to me that Trump is his own worst enemy. We have the capacity to take advantage. I don't know it as a fact, but I expect that most of the members of the law firms he has attacked are Republicans. I knew many members of those firms. Some appeared in my cases -- almost always representing big cats -- E.G. big business. Add to this his attack on judges. Maybe multipy it, square it. Every member of Congress who is a lawyer needs to be asked whether they accept the rule of law.
Here are the House members. https://clerk.house.gov/documents/Lawyers.pdf
The easiest way to beat Trump in this atmosphere is Feathers of Hope. We don't control Congress but we're only a couple of votes away from shared government. Check out the Republicans who may be helpful. https://jerryweiss.substack.com/
Thom should cover it. Interview Jerry Weiss.
Thanks for this Daniel, appreciate your insight!!
The Iroquois could manage a democracy because they weren't saddled with huge disparities in wealth and poverty; capitalism tends to exacerbate such disparities. Acceding to the demands of the wealthy while ignoring the needs of the poor is the natural result; ultimately the rich want everything, as we are seeing now.
Thanks for the Jeffrey, you are absolutely correct. What works at small scale does not work at large scale, Not everything is scalable.
I am not sure that capitalism is the correct termor concept, by which to describe our economic/political environment. It is , for many, the only tool that we have because it was gifted us by Karl Marx.
Karl also gifted us with words like Bourgeoisie and proletariat because in his day there was no such thing as a middle class, which itself was lower, middle, and upper.for him there was only the bourgeoisie, by which he meant mean who owned the means of production and those who worked for those who owned the means of production. Of the ruling elite, the upper class, he had nothing to say, perhaps because they were the ones who financed him as The League of Just Men.
The closest one can come to a middle class in the 18th and 19th Century was the "middlings", which included shop keepers, freemen, guild, craftsmen.
I don't knolw. Comunnist societies existed before Marx was born. I always refer to "The Derserted Village." 1770. The Theory of Moral Sentiments was written in 1759 and An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations in 1776.
I grew up ten miles from Wampum, Pa..... and about 15 miles from Old Harmony. Wampum was the means of exchange.... Old Harmony and Old Economy were communist towns.
I wasn't talking about communist societies Daniel, I was talking about Marx's concepts of bourgeoisie and proletariat, Not communism
I know communism predates Marx, the Iroquois confederation was communist.
White kids that were kidnapped and adopted into the Iroquois didn't want to return and those that were forced to return often ran away to join the tribe.
I know that you know of Oneida dinner ware, it was produced by what was then a communist society.
Again I was not talking of communism. It seems that the mere mention of Marx evokes and image of communism, and that is the problem.
Yes Mr. Hobbs you are correct. have you read THE DAWN OF EVERYTHING by David Graeber and David Wengrow? They are, or were, pioneering cultural anthropologists. Graeber has died.
The courts and judges, along with these lawyers and law firms are our last line of defense against trump. If they fail to live up to the challenge, America will fall. We the people are hard at work, protesting, marching and bombarding their representative's with calls, post card's and town halls. It's only a matter of time before this administration will not be tolerating any of this. God help us Thank You,Thom, I'm thankful we have you, and will reStack ASAP 💯 🙏 🇺🇦 💔
I worked for the US District Court of Kansas for 28 years. Judges don’t like to be told what to do. In fact, they can’t tell each other what to do. Even a chief judge in the court has no power to tell another judge what to do. Of course an appellate court can overrule them, but that’s different. I have more hope in the judiciary than any other institution to do act independently, and that they will follow the law, at least as they interpret it. The majority of them won’t be bullied. Let justice prevail.
Leigh, I pray you’re correct.
The orange slime and his henchman import are worse than any mafia. Indeed they’re Putin’s echo of malicious laughter. Whatever lawyers are left, need to group together to mobilize.
Many voters wanted a real racist. And . . . that's what they got.
What no one voted for? To be the USSA [The United Soviet States of America.]
Many did not -- but that's what we got.
'Then, Trump’s billionaire buddies (most notably, but not exclusively, Elon Musk) poured billions of dollars into elections across the country, so profoundly cowing Republican politicians afraid of suffering the same fate as Adam Kinzinger or Liz Cheney that they’d go along with — and, with heads bowed, publicly justify — even the most absurd of Trump’s ideas and pronouncements.'
I don't believe this for a second. It isn't mere fear of being primaries that has cowed R politicians. It is that they have been compromised by Putin. The RNC servers must've contained information so damaging to R's that they turned on a dime to become Trump sycophants instead of bitter opposition.
VoteVets has begun attaching donvict’s abuses and crimes to specific, named elected Republicans, who so far fear donvict more than they fear their constituents. The entire Democratic Party needs to apply that technique across the board - loudly and relentlessly. It’s past time to drop the gloves.
I am a member and I ask them to talk to Jerry Weiss....
Fred Wellman has a combined Vote Vets, Midas broadcast... Just a few minues ago he discussed torture.... This takes me back to GWB and Git-Mo. My colleague, Moe Davis was the chief prosecutir who refused to accept torture induced evidence.
We only need a few Congeressional Republicans who remember the oath. The 1953 Code of Conduct. The Geneva Accords.
Trump has viewed unscrupulous attorneys and corrupt courts or courts which can be manipulated as his special tools to bully and intimidate people. Now, bullying and intimidating attorneys or judges who might oppose his action and tactics are prime targets. He must be tagged with the label of someone who exploits and abuses our justice system to accomplish his dirty work. This theme must be central to all stories and explanations for his behavior and must be reiterated clearly at every opportunity. His explicit strategy is to misappropriate court protections and policies designed to assure fairness and equality to benefit only himself. Our courts must not allow themselves to be used and abused by the rich and powerful and we must be reminding them every day that they exist to dispense justice for everyone. Trump's pattern is conspicuous, and the spotlight should be on his intentional and strategic misuse of the law and the courts as a highly corrupt, mob-style legal bully.
Those attorneys should be disbarred. Why are they not?
Good question. Some of Trump's attorneys have been disbarred and I'm sure more will in the future. But while they are working on a given case, I suspect that judges are required to put up with a lot of skullduggeries to avoid being accused of bias and to protect the client's interests, even though we all know that the pigheaded orange client is the most culpable in these cases. I am really hoping that the judge in the case involving the flights to El Salvadore locks up the clowns that have been playing stupid games with him for contempt, but he doesn't want to jeopardize the victims and will likely give them slack in hopes of getting cooperation at some point. This is three-dimensional chess and there are angles we cannot see in all likelihood.
Thanks Thom for revealing another element of Trump and minions attempts to take down the republic. The very people involved in this destruction already have money power and influence beyond the rest of us, that is, they are beneficiaries of the system they are tearing down. Are we dealing with a selfish cabal of narcissists who want everything for themselves only? If they impoverish most of us who will buy their products and services? Doesn't heir greedy push for more and more now hurt them in the long run?
It is shocking to observe that not a single Republican legislator appears to have a functional spine, much less a moral compass. For that matter, neither do most Democrats. I think that American voters on both sides of the aisle fail to realize that nearly all their legislators are dim bulbs. MTG and Tuberville are the norm, not exceptions. Thanks to Citizens United, nearly all are selected by the super-rich to do what they are told.
I spent the majority of my career in Washington, so I had to periodically interact with Capitol Hill denizens. During my first Pentagon tour as a junior officer, I developed a reputation as a ghost-buster - the who-ya-gonna-call guy. That increasingly required interactions with Congress.
Most new bills are written by their donors' lobbyists without regard to unintended consequences for government excellence. As everybody in DC is tuned all day to WII-FM (What's In It For Me), I learned to tactfully point out destructive elements of new bills in a way that they could view as politically consequential in order to encourage trimming away the bad stuff or adding some good stuff.
What we seem to be witnessing today is that the pretense of voter representation has been torn away like the Wizard of Oz curtain, as the oligarchs now brazenly rule rather than pretend to legislate through their minions on Capitol Hill.
Maybe SS -- spinal stenosis. Sometimes "bridging" fuses the spine. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5204263-senate-republicans-elon-musk-social-security/
When the Extreme Sport of Injustice granted TFG almost complete immunity from wrongdoing while functioning as chief executive, they basically signed a blank arrest warrant for every person in 'murka. Biden could have used this, but very unfortunately did not. Biden had lost most of his mojo by then, and like the flailing D brand, he spent his final six months moping around like a spoiled kid. He said TFG was a threat, but he did nothing to thwart that observation, so now we have EOs saying officers of the courts cannot do their jobs in those courts. What else is left?
Actually, if rednecks in Wyoming are screaming at tyranny loving federal reps., it appears the cracks are becoming visible in the unsteady ship of state. We are talking about a few thousand insurrectionists again, maybe 10k, who have basically intimidated millions of free citizens in relatively high places to run for cover, taking their posh lifestyles with them. Who will have our backs? We will, we must, or this party is over. I wonder out loud how many haters are now feeling queasy, knowing that they REALLY, REALLY HATE bowing and scraping to some fat jerk and its bully sycophants? I grew up in redneck country, and although I rejected those values long ago, I am pretty certain that the last thing they will allow is for some SUIT telling them how to brush their teeth and keep their mouths shut. The Perfect Storm is a few big waves away.
As a retired lawyer, I fully understand the significance of what is happening. I would suggest that Mump should be careful what they wish for. If the only recourse left for those who love this country, its Constitution, and its ideals is the “Mangione option”, someone is very likely to use it. Maybe more than one such someone. That we should be placed in that position is abhorrent. But it is the logical outcome of what they are doing.
Collateral attack is via state bar licenses.
Yes, if those disbarred care or not may be important. If Trump does not care well, he could just tell them they still are an attorney by exec order. T makes things up.
The display of their fascism with the car commercial done on the White House driveway was the overt move. This move is not meant for public scrutiny.
Take down or co-opt the big boys with the money and the rest will be easy. Just stick to the Roy Cohn rules of attack attack attack, deny everything, and declare victory. You can't do that when the lawyers and judges work against you instead of FOR YOU and your fascism.
Taking the "try" out of trials is the goal. If we want our democracy, none of us can stop "trying". Folks, let's educate and encourage others---they just closed that department too.
Glad you are not letting them do this in the dark, Thom.
Who stole the kishka? https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/the-case-of-tesla-s-missing-1-4-billion-an-electrifying-mystery/ar-AA1BkGZM
Are the Tesla "protest" burnings an insurance scam?
His fear and hatefulness knows no bounds.