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On Heather Cox Richardson this morning, one reader stated:

The only New Deal program that has stood the test of time is Social Security. The American people have since dismantled, of their own accord, much of the New Deal, in spite of whatever they learned in 'school.' He submitted stats to show FDR programs ... "were so ineffective that in 1939, after six years in office, the unemployment rate was 17%."

My response in part is that FDR and LBJ programs have been undermined since incception by idiologues who spread the misinformation (or disinformation). The people who will be screwed by the House budget include beneficiaries of farm subsidies, SNAP - the modern versions of food stamps, Black Lung benefits, etc. Statistics show that about 80% of the general population need a hand up and FDR initiated the safety net, which is necessary and is certainly better than the nothing that Republicans offer. Statistics also show a ripple effect into the general population. These folks need to spend and eventually their spending increases the GNP.

FDR had a tough time, and there was reaction and a fallback in 1937-1938 but but for FDR reforms this country may have become Communist. Membership levels remained below 20,000 until 1933 and then surged upward in the late 1930s, reaching 66,000 in 1939. We also had an internal fascist threat.

The Banking Act of 1935 and the Securities Act of 1933 were designed to prevent future bank failures and protect investors from fraudulent practices. The Wagner Act also created the National Labor Relations Board to oversee union activities and ensure fair labor practices. Projects like the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) brought electricity and economic development to rural communities.

As to the 17% AI tells me that individuals employed by the Works Progress Administration (WPA) and the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) were not included as employed by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) in 1939. The BLS considered them separately, not as part of the overall civilian labor force.

At the WPA's peak in 1938, it employed 3.3 million workers.

At the height of the Depression in 1933, 24.9% of the total work force or 12,830,000 people was unemployed. Although farmers technically were not counted among the unemployed, drastic drops in farm commodity prices resulted in farmers losing their lands and homes to foreclosure. https://www.fdrlibrary.org/great-depression-facts#:~:text=How%20high%20was%20unemployment%20during,lands%20and%20homes%20to%20foreclosure.

During the Great Depression, the average annual income in the United States was about $1,368 per person. This was a significant drop from the pre-Depression era, as per capita income fell dramatically. For example, by 1933, average family income had fallen by 40% from 1929 levels. In 1929, before the Depression, disposable personal income per capita was $7,361 in chained 2012 dollars, according to the National Center for Education Statistics. By 1939, it had fallen to $7,496 in chained 2012 dollars, according to the National Center for Education Statistics. Average per capita income did not fully recover to pre-Depression levels by the end of the 1930s.

The Social Security Act was signed into law in 1935, and initial taxes were collected in 1937. However, the first one-time, lump-sum payments were made in 1937, and the first regular monthly payments began in 1940.

Many families sought to cope by planting gardens, canning food, buying used bread, and using cardboard and cotton for shoe soles, etc. Millions of unemployed workers "hit the rods" travelling to find work. Families were torn apart. Entire populations had to relocate - in some cases due to climate chjange -- like the dust bowl -- but mostly due to poverty.

During the Great Depression, the US age-standardized suicide rate increased significantly, reaching its highest point in 1932 at 22.1 per 100,000. This was a notable increase from the rate of 18.0 per 100,000 in 1928. The overall suicide rate fluctuated between 10.4 and 22.1 over the 1928-2007 period.

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Boiling this down to "wealth addicts" is exactly the way to go. Addiction of some kind has touched everyone; it's really easy to understand. We must repeat it during every political discussion we have. They are the rotten apples spoiling our future.

I think we also need to commend those that have seen the light. They want to give away most of their fortune before they die. Turns out some do NOT want to take it with them.

Sanford published a paper in 2017 about this: "The Myth of Millionaire Tax Flight-How Place Still Matters for the Rich".  It seems they are most often attached to where they made the money and heavy taxes just don't scare them off. So let's make them pay their fair-share and let's reverse Citizen's United. We can turn those two words back into what they really mean.

Thanks Thom. We deserve life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, especially the people doing all the work. The wealth addicts need some rehab. See you in the streets!

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