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Good morning and welcome to the new “reign of terror trump” monarchy. I feel betrayed, and disgusted rather than disappointed by fellow Americans who made their choice. I worry for my family (grandchildren and great grandchildren) who are going to be the victims of this oligarchic nightmare. I no longer feel safe with fellow Americans and their hatred of anyone not like them. I will not say the pledge of allegiance or sing God Bless America anymore. I can’t find any patriotic feelings in me at the moment, sadly.Seriously if I had the money I would become an ex-patriot and move to Canada or Portugal. God help us.

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Deeply saddened and stunned. Utter disbelief. Betrayed, yes, that's a good word.

I'm concerned that everything will be on the auction block starting with Ukraine, NATO, the Constitution, ad infinitum.

Take some time to gather ourselves up and face the challenges with strength and confidence.

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One major anomaly is that a majority of women supported abortion but many of them also voted for Trump.

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Women have always been on the auction block no matter their color, etc. Regrettably, women fail to recognize that fact along with their value and power.

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I believe that I mentioned something like that would happen Daniel.

Never underestimate human nature,and the need of females for a protector and provider, Trump didn't that is why he announced I will be your protector. He grabbed them by the mons venus and they followed.

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Help ourselves. Unite. Become a force for the good. Draft Marianne Williamson to create the Beloved Community for real. "Let's do something already to turn the world around/How about the Beloved Community?" https://suzannetaylor.substack.com/p/lets-do-something-already-to-turn

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A group of women sitting cross legged on Afghan rug, rubbing crystal and singing paens o f love for all mankind is not going to save our bacon or change the world.

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Same here. Exactly.

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I am super happy to be living in Costa Rica and have no intent on ever going back to the USA.

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Thanks Thom Hartmann for being the great American Voice for Democracy. I've been listening to you since the days of Air America and this is my very first comment. I'm a 78 year old Vietnam Veteran who is heartbroken and worried about our future and world peace. God Bless us all

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Democracy, moneycracy and now comes kleptocracy full force. The billionaires will gorge themselves with government money, overpriced contracts with the benediction of this old unhinged disgusting fake jesus my ass trump, who will cut his share along the way, as usual. Corruption will blossom. Putin rejoice. Damned!

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Good night, America. Franklin and many of the framers were right; the working class is pobably too bovine to govern themselves for long. We're about to get what we've asked for.

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Nah. Putin won. Used psyops. Intimidation. E.G. Bomb threats + .massive spending by his allies, like Musk ... Otherwise we would have won.

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Sadly. Fear is baked into the amygdala. Everything else was BS. The "economy" issue is a classic pretext for racism. So is the "border." Trump's ads go directly to the Jungian collective racist subconscious. They teach this stuff. This is what OUR CIA tried to do worldwide. They conned the media. Murdoch is a willing idiot, Thom.

We did this effectively starting in Europe post WWII. Kept the commies from taking over. Effective in Iran and Guatemala 1952 - 1953. Didn't work well in Cuba, southeast Asia. Putin has perfected it. I.e. Hungary, Slovakia.

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Everything you said is true but there's no getting away from the fact that given a choice the majority of voters chose fascism.

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They are the suckers who are born every minute. 90% vote contrary to their own economic and even physical health.

To quote myself in one of my novels" They no know wha' they no know."

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Actually something like an authoritarian figure is needed to really get serious about our changing climate. We're certainly moving way too slowly to be a step ahead of disasters. Of course as long as we remain a divided congress/citizenry an authoritarian King would be preferable.

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Which comes first:

Nuclear annihilation or climate apocalypse

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Putin won without launching one missle. Hang on for the climate, next up.

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A radio talker once mused on whether well be done in by fire or water - wildfires or sea level rise / flooding. My vote is for neither of the above; tropical diseases will get us in the end.

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Thom - totally brilliant and insightful thinking and writing - thanks so much - as what you said totally clarified and is consistent with all my thoughts & fears. The question is now what to do next?

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It's over.

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Thom,

They have unchecked power now. There will be not stopping them from redistricting, gerrymandering and manipulating voting rolls. Any future elections will be "pretend/sham" elections, ar least in my lifetime. (Vis a viz Hunagary).

I don't see a lot of hope. If they get rid of social security, I don't know what we will do.

Despair may not be an option, but I am there.

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The central question of this election is why have the Dems lost the Hispanic vote. Not a majority, not yet, but more than enough to shatter the so-called Dem coalition. A close second is why do people continue to vote against their own economic interests. Inflation cost the Dems this election, but the kind of inflation that is coming when Trump implements across the board tariffs and mass deportations will dwarf what occurred post-Covid

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Richard: If you consider that the Hispanic culture is macho, paternalistic, and that democracy is feminine then your question as to the Hispanic vote answers itself. In fact it answers why Trump has swept the board,

The Patriarchy, that is male rule, male domination has been perceived as being under threat.

Power is a zero sum game. Either you have power or you are submissive, and submissive males are, in their minds eye, equivalent to females.

Trump voters, outside of the female camp followers, are in large part InCels and Viagra/Cialis users. They need drugs to erect and penetrate because social progress has mean that these poor creatures have lost control over women. The image of the virile black male, also propels them. The Hispanic culture is indelibly Catholic, and patriarchal as is Evangelical and Pentecostal cults.

The popularity and need for Viagra and Cialis, and the rise of the InCels, were red flags that were totally ignored and MAGA is the result.

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As usual Mr. Farrar your claim that yesterday's election result is a consequence of "InCels" and Viagra and Cialis, is itself, your usual imbecility.

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Not just incels Gerald, and pulling that phrase out of my response is a strawman fallacy. I can't help but take notice that you have difficulty with being contradicted.

So you are a Marxist, I take it, well Marxism is just another savior ideology, like Islam and Christianity, or Capitalism.

One thing about ideologies, that enable one to cloak themselves in self righteousness and obviate the need for self examination or critical thinking.

I have the solution, Jesus, Mark, Lenin, Mao, Adam Smith, Gerald f Dobbertin.

I don't have any solutions, but there are many causes,and the only way to find the root cause is to pound rocks into stones,stones into sand and sand into dust.

But the moment you do that, you find yourself at odds with someones idea of a savior and cause.

Makes life so simple doesn't it. Capitalism the cause, Marx the solution. Except it isn't.

Human nature, that which drives us, is the problem, and no ism is a solution.

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They say that such people are voting for their own perceived interests... to not let someone they look down on (e.g. a woman), take a position over them. It ruins their self-image of being the smartest person in the room.

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founding

A burning empire upon a landfill.

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We're on the clown train to tire-fire mountain.

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Thank You, Thom, for sharing your thoughts and insight this morning. I'm in mourning, and your all invited to the funeral on January 20th 2025. Looking towards the skyline for the Sunrise that always comes after a long dark night. Blessings to you All 🙏💔

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Joe Biden is still the President. He can still act as President and resign, making Kamala Harris the President. She will be immune based on the Supreme Court decision. She could order that Donald Trump be imprisoned along with his likes. People need to speak up.

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Wouldn’t that be a twist to the expected story 🤣

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Great Idea....One problem the Democratic Party has no guts or backbone to support something like this.

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Biden doesn't have to appoint Harris, he can do that himself, but he won't, for the same reason that he appointed an arch right winger as AG.

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I tend to buy the assertion by several journalists that the election was less about billionaire political influence and more due to RURAL RAGE at America's economic inequality that has gotten out of control due mainly to Democrats dithering.

As a Boomer kid we used to label rich people "millionaires." Now you are not rich unless you are a billionaire. The sad irony is that if your net worth is around $6M, your standard of living is rich, but you are just in that top One Percent. Standard-of-livingwise, the distance between the 1% and the .01% is about the same as from the top 1% to the bottom 10%.

It is not as if people like Matt Stoller and Dean Baker haven't been warning us almost daily for many years about the "Rigged" system. It is that Democratic presidents dithered and lacked the motivation to raise taxes on the wealthy, fix social security, and bust some trusts.

Today's election was not a RED WAVE, it was a toxic RED TIDE that slowly bubbled up from below the infamous "poverty line" stimulated by Rural Rage at being abandoned by the "elites" who were benefitting from a perverted US economy. Because all red tides are toxic, the MAGAs will, ironically, suffer the most from their support for replacing democracy with billionaire autocracy - perhaps because they bought into the myth of Trickle-Down economics promoted by - the billionaire autocracy.

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Tomonthebeach, The Democrats sat on their hands as the richest, most powerful empire in history allowed millions of its citizens to fall into poverty, ill health, illiteracy, religious superstition, fear and despair. Meanwhile the biggest expenditure in the national budget since Dwight Eisenhower was allocated for nuclear aircraft carriers, fighter planes, rockets, nuclear submarines, 800 military bases around the world. And this was accompanied by tax breaks for the wealthiest people in history. All of this is the inevitable result of unconstrained capitalism. An economic system which has been busy searching for raw materials, labor supply, and markets everywhere in the world while abandoning our own domestic labor force and our own domestic industry and internal national interests. Is it a mystery why American voters fell for the false promises of the most dishonest president in our history?

Now we can look forward to the possibility of Elon Musk being appointed our government's "efficiency expert" who will shut down 2 trillion dollars in government expenditures; according to Musk's own words. This is exactly what Andrew Mellon told Herbert Hoover to do. And after Hoover did, the country plummeted into the worst depression in history. Again; is it a mystery why American voters fell for the false promises of the most dishonest president in our history? Just as they fell for Hoover's blathering about austerity at the end of the Gilded age. If you are not the kind of person who bends to the force high winds; then maybe it is time to read books by John Maynard Keynes and Karl Marx.

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Gerald, one exception to your comment. If it were not for this military industrial complex, you would not be making your self rightEous comments, nor would any of us probably be alive, well I would I was born before WWII but I can't imagine what kind of world I would be living in. Our navy and Air force protect the sea lanes and skies, that we can ship and recieve products and resources that we can't produce on our own., without a military industrial complex can you imagine what second language we would be speaking,or our descedants should they suvive the threatened catastophic end of the antrhopocene.

It is one thing to poitificate on ideological grounds, after all men have been doing that since Sumer (religion is just another ideology and it has it's pontificators as well

And all together a different thing to live in reality. The problem with ideologues is that they are so wound up and devoted,that they are incapable of considering the consequence of their beloved ideology.

And Marx, I know you take exception,but he was not at a socialist, that is misreading from ignorance perhaps willful. He was in fact a proto libertarian. But I've covered that ground already,.

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Mr. Farrar, you claim that you returned from Viet Nam in your youth and eventually changed. You did not. Your head is still in Viet Nam. You are still the failed soldier and husband of your youth. All your childish tough talk about violence and Viagra and sexual imagery is revealing to all. Grow up!

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Are you ignoring that there have been many Republicans in Congress stopping Democrats moves to make the changes you suggest? (Maybe we can thank Mitch McConnell for orchestrating what he has wrought, and we all now face.)

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I do not think so. Voters do not get that subtle about federal policy making. Clinton loved monopolies and embraced Reaganomics which made big cities richer and rural areas poorer. A lot of rural areas lost manufacturing jobs when Clinton encouraged businesses to migrate overseas. Blaming Republican opposition ducks disinterest in rural economics. What did Obama do to raise taxes on the wealthy or go after monopolies when he had majorities in both houses? Not much.

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Tom, have you ever actually lived in rural America. I have, and they really don't get incensed over the economy, as certain people think.

It starts with the pulpit and the press, they are told what to think, what to prioritize in their lives, and who are the devil's spawn.

Take a trip through rural America, via Zillow and google, I mean the rural America you are talking about, like Crossett, Arkansas and Bastrop, LA. They aren't hauling in 90,000 dollars a year in income, but they aren't paying 500,000 for a home either.

If I didn't mind living with stifling bigots. I could sell my property,pocket the proceeds and move to rural America and live like a King

Check these prices: https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Crossett_AR/beds-3-3

A 3 br 2 bath house for $45,000 brick ones for $145,000 to $150,00

Then check Redmond WA https://www.tollbrothers.com/luxury-homes/Redmond-WA?h_type=Condo&campaignid=16877818268&adgroupid=138506173809&targetid=kwd-489705524138&keyword=condos+redmond+wa&loc_interest=1027725&loc_physical=1014391&matchtype=p&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAxKy5BhBbEiwAYiW--wJ3NKzzZnO13esn2NmIasVv8Ni9olosCdnhOiZCLFH6vC4TdYoFiRoC4R8QAvD_BwE

Aslo, in rural America most homes are mortgage freem family heirlooms passed down from generation to generation.

There are virtually no family farms anymore, they have all been bought up or driven into bankruptcy, or virtual serfdom by Agribusiness

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Does growing up with a cornfield at the end of my back yard count?

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Thom, while I agree with everything in your article, remember that Trump told his followers at a rally that he didn’t want or need their votes. That it was all taken care of and it would be the last time they would have to vote? To me this says that our voting system itself has been tampered with and compromised. The one time he told the truth and we weren’t listening.

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I have not stopped wondering about this question. And, what exactly was his and Speaker Mike Johnson's secret? With intense work to lie, trick, and destroy all that is good, what has been done via AI, Putin, and Elon Musk? Let us not just roll over and say, okay.

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BOHICA

"BOHICA" stands for "Bend Over, Here It Comes Again." It's a slang term often used in military and corporate environments to express resignation or frustration about an unpleasant situation that is recurring or inevitable.

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Sir Okie Doke, I laughed like hell when I read your words. But I simply cannot bring myself to use the word in my own writing.

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Yes, yes, yes. We wont fix ourselves unless we know what to fix and this it IT!!!!! The rule of the oligarchy has to end!!!!! Get a coalition of people who are on it to figure out moves to make. Read Geoff Deihl. He is on it, too, and so smart. https://geoffreydeihl.substack.com/p/will-the-corporatocracy-stand. And get Marianne Williamson for sure. Here she is today: https://mariannewilliamson.substack.com/p/reflections-on-election-night.

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I read Ms Williamsons screed, hogwash, self pitying whining. she blames Trumps win on the fact that there was no Democratic primary, as if she could have won the primary and won the election.

she lives in a fantasy world, a reality of her own making She would never ever win a primary,much less a general election.

The world in which we live is rough, tough, tumble and rumble not airy, fairey, blue sky and buttercups. She is not a fighter, and thus unfit to lead.

Too late now, but Democrats should have taken the hint.

Trump ran an attack campaign, negativity, fear, name calling and it has worked for him, hasn't it, while Kamala ran a peace, love and inclusive campaign, and look where that got her and us.

When our troops landed on Normandy they did so under a barrage of artillery shells from ships off shore, and under a barrage of bullets from the defenders. No one was throwing flowers, and peace signs were they.

If it isn't obvious by now that positivity , love and inclusion doesn't work, it will never be obvious.

But it is all moot now. Trump is in, the Constitution is a dead letter, and any future election will be a charade like those in Russia or Hungary.

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Mr. Farrar, you sound like a 7 year old boy playing with his tin soldiers. Your head is still in Viet Nam.

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Trite, but cute and way beneath what I thought was your stature. I can and do admit when I am wrong though.

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