It is utter BS to justify imposing religious doctrine on impressionable youth: there isn’t that much overlap between the Ten Commandments and American or Louisiana law...
LOL I was thinking the same thing Daniel. The law mandates that the ten commandments be posted, but not the language, I would hope that at least one school's principal, posts them in Hebrew.
Use to be being honest was a necessary stance. Now there is a willingness to offer a false story and the media gives them space to tell it without checks to facts. A society without honor has no future. This death cult seeks the end of all things except to a past that never existed.
This is a great tribute to the founders of this Country.
In spite of the insistence by some that we must involve the Christians to organize our laws , based on their personal beliefs, the truest patriots of their time said no.
Religion and Government were separate per the Constitution .
This is the Country and freedom was and is our goal.
The lying Republicans who care little for ordinary people’s well being .
They have determined that Christianity , their brand , should inform and control everyone else.
It’s wrong . It’s a lie . It’s a ruse.
And I do believe , whatever Deity there is , Our Supreme Being despises it .
When the GOP will not offer a higher standard of living or financial security or protection of the environment because they are too greedy and brain dead, they always whip out religion, racism and guns to get their mentally castrated cult to vote for them one last time before a dictatorship ends voting and the Constitution all together.
Since the Supreme Court and Biden are all Catholics, and Trump puts money before Nation, I do not expect any healthy honest illegal immigrants to be sent back. Okay maybe just a couple as a token show. Red meat for the cult. In my humble opinion though, the Muslims will be banned. The ones that will be sent back will be a burden to the billionaires.
It is pretty obvious that the ten commandments did not help the Republican party become more virtuous! The GOP constantly tell lies, bear falls witness, are greedy, full of hate, delusional and sadistic.
It is not about virtue Bob, it is about Power. Religion is the keystone and stepping stone of Power. Once you get the populace to fear god, then you can use him,in whatever form, as a sock puppet.
In 1956, I entered 10th grade in Bastrop HS in NE Louisiana, they had adopted the progressive education model, and I found that the school was invigorating and enjoyable, instead of my mind wandering as it did in Olney HS in Philadelphia, I was paying attention. My English lit teacher is one of the few names I can still remember. Drafting, biology are classes I still remember.
Something happened in the 68 years, since then. Politically the state has always been the shitz, racist, religious fanatics, the town folk thought what their local paper and their preachers told them to think.
my friends were Cajuns, Cajuns were Catholic. I lived with my grandparents in a shot gun cabin on the property of their son, my uncle a Southern Baptist Preacher, who was as much a hater and bigot as any I have ever met. he called blacks nigrahs, and he hated with a passion my Catholic friends, and I taunted him by bringing them to church and seated them in the front row pew.
The much vaunted Southern Hospitality is reserved for family and friends, and folk who belong to the same "club"
But I left that small town in north east Louisiana in 1957, impressed with their progressiveness, the roads in Louisiana are shit, next to Arkansas the worst in the country, as bad as the Pennsyltucky Turnpike. But I had high regard for it's schooling, apparently 1956 Bastrop, La is an outlier.
About 30 years ago the government permitted observances of religion at work during lunch or during personal breaks. The first group to take advantage in my office sacrificed live small animals -- chickens -- in our breakroom. Santeria.
In Louisiana the ghost of Marie Leveau, the queen of Voodoo, has a similar following, using animal sacrifices for protection.
Consider that Baghdad By the Sea was the home of "Brother Love", Yahweh Ben Yahweh, among other religious leaders, we expected sacraments that would violate the no smoking ban..
. . are people who are high closer to God's. Great Palace up there, Heaven? Christians think not. They think "Reefer Madness'" was spiritually inspired. Others think it was created by liquor and oil corporations who feared the economic losses. I have heard some say that it was the "burning bush" of Moses. It plays like a ping-pong game.
Another superb summation, Thom. Call me a Madisonian, I guess. From atheism to Greek Orthodoxy, after a Catholic childhood, the last thing I want is a commingling of government and religion in the slightest degree. My own faith has a vivid example of how bad that is—the kleptocrat Kirill, head of the Russian Orthodox Church (formerly, but no longer, in communion with my own), decreed that every Russian so,dire who died fighting the obscene war in Ukraine would go to heaven. Under him, that church is little more than a tool of Putin, as much as or more than it was under the Czars.
I don’t want to live in a “Christian” national. Neither would Christ. Fit true Christian’s, forced religion is an oxymoron. Free will is paramount. You hear God’s call and respond, or not. Any forced conversion is by definition fraudulent, fake, of no moment to God, who if not freely chosen is not chosen at all. That is the error all religious fundamentalists make, because they are not about religion at all. They are about control in THIS life. I despise them, as in many ways theirs is the ultimate sin.
It won’t matter. We will learn soon enough how far gone we are when SCOTUS rules on this. If it hopes to retain a shred of legitimacy or credibility, there can be only one outcome. I am not holding my breath in anticipation.
This report deserves honor and respect for your ability to educate our country about what most people seem to have no understanding...including our SCOTUS. How silly Governor Jim Landry proves himself, running against our Constitution and the sophisticated teachings of our founding fathers. Landry is full of himself and oblivious that he's opposing the reflective brilliance of George Washington, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, and their peers. Thank you Thom for this detailed report on an issue important the the well-being of our country. I will share it with many.
The founding fathers were well acquainted with the fact that Europe had experienced 100's of years of bloody religious warfare and when various religious orders left England/Europe to find religious freedom in the new world they immediately started imposing their religion on others. Seems like they are back at it. Some "christians " want the US to be a Christian theocracy. But there's a problem - which of the 347 versions of Christianity should be in control. Answer: NONE of them. Separation of church and state is an absolute requirement. Dragging any version of religion into our government or public education is violation of the constitution, their oaths of office, and treason
Tks. I did not know that Louisiana is such a slum. Poor people. But easy to target and endoctrinate with (any) religious belief.... such as von trump is djeeeesus back on earth?
Not just Louisiana but the south and midwest, everywhere you go in rural and small town America you find the same mentality.
For one thing the social life is dominated by the church and/or grange, not to mention the American Legion and VFW,where the men get drunk and socialize.
The Egyptian Book of the Dead's 42 Negative Confessions is considerably older than the Bible's Ten Commandments. They are likely 1000 years older, but they were really popular by the time Moses came on the scene. They are pretty rigorous and a lot more interesting, but have all the basics. Plagiarism, maybe?
There is a silver-lining, since it is so easy to point-out how far removed the Republicans and their Golden Calf are from the religious doctrine they want to force upon someone else's children. I hope practicing parents of all religions and NONE use this sickening Louisiana law to educate their kids on the Constitution and tolerance.
Is the Devil happy now that he got the Republicans to lie about this part of our history? He must be ecstatic about Trump.
I know what the Egyptian Feather of Truth would mean for these bigots and liars. From Google quoting the Australian Museum:
"This feather was the symbol for truth and justice and helped determine whether the deceased person had indeed been virtuous. If the heart was found to be heavier than the feather, it was fed to Ammut, the 'Devourer', and the soul was cast into darkness."
The Dominionists, the New Apostolic Reformation, and indeed even moderate Christians claim to follow the Ten Commandments. Until there weren't 10 Commandments there are 613 of them in the book that bears there name, the Book of Laws, Levitucus, also in Deuteronomy.
You will not find one Christian, not one Dominionist, who is willing to live by all 613, much less adjudicate and punish by them. For they contain prohibitions against eating pork and shellfish, the basis of Kosher and in Islam halal), not wearing clothing of mixed fabric.
Much of the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch (first five books) was cribbed from the Egyptians and Babylonians. Circumcision was an Egyptian ritual.
... you may have missed the REVISED TEN COMMANDMENTS from the Bible according to Trump, in which it says it's OK to molest young girls. Here are the new commandments for your convenience.
Maybe we should make the argument that they should just post the constitution instead.
In Hebrew.
LOL I was thinking the same thing Daniel. The law mandates that the ten commandments be posted, but not the language, I would hope that at least one school's principal, posts them in Hebrew.
Use to be being honest was a necessary stance. Now there is a willingness to offer a false story and the media gives them space to tell it without checks to facts. A society without honor has no future. This death cult seeks the end of all things except to a past that never existed.
The more that you oppress people the easier it is to impose your will on them. This explains a lot on the MAGA game plan for the country.
This is a great tribute to the founders of this Country.
In spite of the insistence by some that we must involve the Christians to organize our laws , based on their personal beliefs, the truest patriots of their time said no.
Religion and Government were separate per the Constitution .
This is the Country and freedom was and is our goal.
The lying Republicans who care little for ordinary people’s well being .
They have determined that Christianity , their brand , should inform and control everyone else.
It’s wrong . It’s a lie . It’s a ruse.
And I do believe , whatever Deity there is , Our Supreme Being despises it .
Agreed, SHE despises it!
The highest intelligence probably never despises, but with a gentle sense of humor sees the foolishness of our ways.
I think even our highest Being is a bit Angry at all the lying and hatred being sent out .
Many of the founders, and our first national leaders, were not Christian, but Unitarian.
When the GOP will not offer a higher standard of living or financial security or protection of the environment because they are too greedy and brain dead, they always whip out religion, racism and guns to get their mentally castrated cult to vote for them one last time before a dictatorship ends voting and the Constitution all together.
Since the Supreme Court and Biden are all Catholics, and Trump puts money before Nation, I do not expect any healthy honest illegal immigrants to be sent back. Okay maybe just a couple as a token show. Red meat for the cult. In my humble opinion though, the Muslims will be banned. The ones that will be sent back will be a burden to the billionaires.
It is pretty obvious that the ten commandments did not help the Republican party become more virtuous! The GOP constantly tell lies, bear falls witness, are greedy, full of hate, delusional and sadistic.
It is not about virtue Bob, it is about Power. Religion is the keystone and stepping stone of Power. Once you get the populace to fear god, then you can use him,in whatever form, as a sock puppet.
It will only be a short matter of time before the religious groups start going to war with each other!
As usual William you're right on the money.
The Republican Mob (can’t call it a party any longer) reveres the Ten Commandments, but it completely ignores the Beatitudes.
KIDS: Wow! Mr Trump has violated nearly ALL of these Commandments! I guess you won't be voting for HIM, will you?
MOM & DAD: Uhhhh ...
Bingo!
In 1956, I entered 10th grade in Bastrop HS in NE Louisiana, they had adopted the progressive education model, and I found that the school was invigorating and enjoyable, instead of my mind wandering as it did in Olney HS in Philadelphia, I was paying attention. My English lit teacher is one of the few names I can still remember. Drafting, biology are classes I still remember.
Something happened in the 68 years, since then. Politically the state has always been the shitz, racist, religious fanatics, the town folk thought what their local paper and their preachers told them to think.
my friends were Cajuns, Cajuns were Catholic. I lived with my grandparents in a shot gun cabin on the property of their son, my uncle a Southern Baptist Preacher, who was as much a hater and bigot as any I have ever met. he called blacks nigrahs, and he hated with a passion my Catholic friends, and I taunted him by bringing them to church and seated them in the front row pew.
The much vaunted Southern Hospitality is reserved for family and friends, and folk who belong to the same "club"
But I left that small town in north east Louisiana in 1957, impressed with their progressiveness, the roads in Louisiana are shit, next to Arkansas the worst in the country, as bad as the Pennsyltucky Turnpike. But I had high regard for it's schooling, apparently 1956 Bastrop, La is an outlier.
The state is now a real Shithole.
Religious doctrine. Toe in the water?
About 30 years ago the government permitted observances of religion at work during lunch or during personal breaks. The first group to take advantage in my office sacrificed live small animals -- chickens -- in our breakroom. Santeria.
In Louisiana the ghost of Marie Leveau, the queen of Voodoo, has a similar following, using animal sacrifices for protection.
Were the chickens first "put to the question"?
Santeria dogma insists they were willing.
Consider that Baghdad By the Sea was the home of "Brother Love", Yahweh Ben Yahweh, among other religious leaders, we expected sacraments that would violate the no smoking ban..
Begs the question
. . are people who are high closer to God's. Great Palace up there, Heaven? Christians think not. They think "Reefer Madness'" was spiritually inspired. Others think it was created by liquor and oil corporations who feared the economic losses. I have heard some say that it was the "burning bush" of Moses. It plays like a ping-pong game.
Great and necessary stuff, thanks Tom. Alas, however, Jefferson was not hostile enough, in practice, to tyranny over the Bodies of men (and women).
Thank you, Frank. You remind me to remind my children that all elections are balancing acts. Nobody's perfect.
It’s revealing that the Court’s “originalists” find no common ground with the Founders here.
Another superb summation, Thom. Call me a Madisonian, I guess. From atheism to Greek Orthodoxy, after a Catholic childhood, the last thing I want is a commingling of government and religion in the slightest degree. My own faith has a vivid example of how bad that is—the kleptocrat Kirill, head of the Russian Orthodox Church (formerly, but no longer, in communion with my own), decreed that every Russian so,dire who died fighting the obscene war in Ukraine would go to heaven. Under him, that church is little more than a tool of Putin, as much as or more than it was under the Czars.
I don’t want to live in a “Christian” national. Neither would Christ. Fit true Christian’s, forced religion is an oxymoron. Free will is paramount. You hear God’s call and respond, or not. Any forced conversion is by definition fraudulent, fake, of no moment to God, who if not freely chosen is not chosen at all. That is the error all religious fundamentalists make, because they are not about religion at all. They are about control in THIS life. I despise them, as in many ways theirs is the ultimate sin.
It won’t matter. We will learn soon enough how far gone we are when SCOTUS rules on this. If it hopes to retain a shred of legitimacy or credibility, there can be only one outcome. I am not holding my breath in anticipation.
This report deserves honor and respect for your ability to educate our country about what most people seem to have no understanding...including our SCOTUS. How silly Governor Jim Landry proves himself, running against our Constitution and the sophisticated teachings of our founding fathers. Landry is full of himself and oblivious that he's opposing the reflective brilliance of George Washington, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, and their peers. Thank you Thom for this detailed report on an issue important the the well-being of our country. I will share it with many.
The founding fathers were well acquainted with the fact that Europe had experienced 100's of years of bloody religious warfare and when various religious orders left England/Europe to find religious freedom in the new world they immediately started imposing their religion on others. Seems like they are back at it. Some "christians " want the US to be a Christian theocracy. But there's a problem - which of the 347 versions of Christianity should be in control. Answer: NONE of them. Separation of church and state is an absolute requirement. Dragging any version of religion into our government or public education is violation of the constitution, their oaths of office, and treason
Tks. I did not know that Louisiana is such a slum. Poor people. But easy to target and endoctrinate with (any) religious belief.... such as von trump is djeeeesus back on earth?
Not just Louisiana but the south and midwest, everywhere you go in rural and small town America you find the same mentality.
For one thing the social life is dominated by the church and/or grange, not to mention the American Legion and VFW,where the men get drunk and socialize.
The Egyptian Book of the Dead's 42 Negative Confessions is considerably older than the Bible's Ten Commandments. They are likely 1000 years older, but they were really popular by the time Moses came on the scene. They are pretty rigorous and a lot more interesting, but have all the basics. Plagiarism, maybe?
There is a silver-lining, since it is so easy to point-out how far removed the Republicans and their Golden Calf are from the religious doctrine they want to force upon someone else's children. I hope practicing parents of all religions and NONE use this sickening Louisiana law to educate their kids on the Constitution and tolerance.
Is the Devil happy now that he got the Republicans to lie about this part of our history? He must be ecstatic about Trump.
I know what the Egyptian Feather of Truth would mean for these bigots and liars. From Google quoting the Australian Museum:
"This feather was the symbol for truth and justice and helped determine whether the deceased person had indeed been virtuous. If the heart was found to be heavier than the feather, it was fed to Ammut, the 'Devourer', and the soul was cast into darkness."
The Dominionists, the New Apostolic Reformation, and indeed even moderate Christians claim to follow the Ten Commandments. Until there weren't 10 Commandments there are 613 of them in the book that bears there name, the Book of Laws, Levitucus, also in Deuteronomy.
You will not find one Christian, not one Dominionist, who is willing to live by all 613, much less adjudicate and punish by them. For they contain prohibitions against eating pork and shellfish, the basis of Kosher and in Islam halal), not wearing clothing of mixed fabric.
There are sect of "plain people" who try. Ancient Order Amish. Several other sects.
There are also sects of Moslems who try.
Any sacrifice for their young is an imposition to modern-day self-proclaimed Christians.
Much of the Old Testament, especially the Pentateuch (first five books) was cribbed from the Egyptians and Babylonians. Circumcision was an Egyptian ritual.
The Code of Hammurabi (1755-1750 BC) influenced Mosaic law. Hammurabi was a Babylonian king.
Iknow all about the code of Hammurabi, my wife was a building official, and told me that his was the first code for construction of buildings.
... you may have missed the REVISED TEN COMMANDMENTS from the Bible according to Trump, in which it says it's OK to molest young girls. Here are the new commandments for your convenience.
https://thedemlabs.org/2024/01/07/ten-commandments-maga-edition/