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Unequivocally right on, Thom Hartmann.

The GOP and their foreign and domestic sponsors are razing the institution of democracy itself. We can all wave goodbye to any of our more granular well-intentioned causes if we let them salt the "social earth" that is democracy. Absolutely zero of our higher aspirations can be achieved in the current ecosphere the GOP are forcing upon us. None.

The fight of our life is for democracy first - and it's ALL hands on deck.

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Right! It's the culture...

40% of the 2024 electorate will be younger voters, Gen Z, and 70% trend Democratic.

That demographic alone can sweep out Republicans.

That's why Taylor Swift can be the inspiration. Biden has said some stupid stuff, but IMHO he has the capacity to assemble a new Democratic coalition and take advantage of the GOP's Achilles heel .

Channel Taylor Swift. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10227578125173481&set=a.2177836920222

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/22/1201183160/taylor-swift-instagram-voter-registration

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGDjbq-jhtK/?hl=en

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You are correct John, If Trump and the Republicans win, the first targets will be us. An open season on all the right and Trump declares an enemy of Christianity and white supremacy.

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What does (foreign sponsors) mean?

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Foreigners who lend morale and financial support to the destruction of democracy. Jennie

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Give it up William. Jenny cannot vote in the US, was born in Singapore, has an Irish passport, lives in France & doesn’t seem to understand the politics of any of those places.

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LOL, Thanks HulitC. I get the picture.

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Which foreigners William?

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Are you looking for an insult, or a quarrel, something to bite on and nit pick and go off on a tangent.

You could have googled foreigner, but I did: a person born in or coming from a country other than one's own.

INFORMAL

a person not belonging to a particular place or group; a stranger or outsider.

A foreigner covers a lot of ground and is all inclusive, but apparently you wish to separate foreigner into just one or two groups, so you can launch your screed.

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IF anyone on here is a 'nitpicker' William I suggest you look in a mirror.

I believe you said something which was patently of no value, back it up or apologise?

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And there you go. You step on yourself, when called out, you turn the subject and attack the source of your pain.

Again your question "Which foreigners" is argumentative and an attempt to entrap or play victim.

And you dare suggest I apologize. For what? You being exposed as a person with an agenda.

So use more than your thumbs on your cell phone, to clearly elucidate your complaints, your ideology, all we have are short non explanatory sentences, where you either vent or try to entrap.

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And there isn't enough shame in all the hearts of every human who ever lived to counter the profit-first willfully undutiful mainstream media behemoth which continually legitimises the GOP in spite of everything the GOP does and does not do. On this particular topic, the media's deafening silence on the very loud GOP effort to steal peoples right to democracy (via VOTING) is nothing more than a green light to proceed with the purge. Their silence, in no uncertain terms, is total permission and normalization of the absurdity that says so long as the people can't stop the GOP from doing it, then it is the right of the GOP to do it.

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Biden may be losing any edge he once had due to his foreign policy positions. Ive seen polls showing 70% of young voters oppose the administration’s stand regarding a ceasefire and the assault on Gaza. Many see this as a moral issue. This is too big an elephant to sweep under the rug. I’d like to see Thom discuss this.

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Yes it is being discussed in many places but I think the voting issue here is probably THE most important.

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Joy in Hong Kong, How is life under a dictatorship. You would be jailed for asking such a question about your government.

Those feckless, stupid 70% of young voters will be drinking a cup of their own kool aid, if they don't vote Democratic.

The senseless idiots, have bought the lies of HAMAS, hook line and sinker, the left has been infiltrated by Muslims, and it started under George W Bush, when he invaded Iraq.

Muslims saw the war as a war against Islam, especially in Afghanistan and assholes like Lt Gen Chrystal didn't help, when he depicted the war in Afghanistan as a Christian Crusade, so naturally the immature and thoughtless students and leftists, who legitimately opposed the war, took it as a war on Islam, because of Marxists professors who cast everything as imperialism and colonialism, and reflexively sided with "oppressed" Muslims. Islam is the most misogynistic and intolerant religion on earth, except when it comes to race/

Women are to be hidden behind bee keeper suits (Abaya, Chador, Burqa,. Nigab), and can't travel without being accompanied by a male. If raped they have to produce 4 male witnesses, who by being witnesses are actually accomplices, failing that she is considered and adulteress and the penalty for that is death, in Iran they dig a pit, wrap the victim in a sheet, bury her up to her waist and then from a ring drawn around her, stone her to death.

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How is life in the US with kids being shot in schools?

More guns than people/lousy health care and hideous education?

Not all Islam William is the same you are talking about different sects of Islam. I doubt a Sufi would even fight a war.

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For more on voter suppression, check out Greg Palast on YouTube.

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Out of their cold dead hands!

From the Atlantic's John Brownstein: " As many as 7 million to 9 million more members of the racially and culturally diverse Gen Z could cast ballots in 2024 than did in 2020, while the number of the predominantly white Baby Boomers and older generations voting may decline by a corresponding amount, according to nonpartisan forecasts. As a result, for the first time, Gen Z and Millennials combined could account for as many votes next year as the Baby Boomers and their elders—the groups that have made up a majority of voters for decades." Could is the operative word; his article was about the fact they are not all Democrats.

So once again the GOP may be doing just the opposite of what would benefit them if they hope to have a party left 25 years from now. They did not get the memo that "Mean People Suck".

Great Report, Thom. Time for those of us of a certain age to make sure we give Zoomers these facts and encourage them to register and vote in EVERY election. Let them know their voice must be heard. Set a good example.

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Every US citizen should be able to vote, with no hoops to jump through - at least no hoops that make it harder from some citizens to vote than others. The requirement to be registered to vote is one of the greatest obstacles to voting. Being a citizen should be enough. But a practical problem with that is that Americans, unlike most other countries, have a strong aversion to carrying proof of citizenship, and policy makers have believed for a very long time that proof of citizenship (not just swearing that one is a citizen) is necessary to permit one to vote. One state (a red state at that) does not require voter registration. Thus, voters just show up at polling places and vote, without having had to go through the process of registering. To my knowledge, that state has suffered no significant issues because of fraudulent voting.

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Well, if the American public is stupid enough to elect a dictatorship I guess they deserve one. I'd like to hang around a few years after it gets started just to see all the pissed off Trump supporters when Trump doesn't close the border and when he takes away their social security. They will be hooping and hollering and celebrating the first couple of months probably though.

I see where Elon musk and other right wingers are upset about the people who don't have children. Now they are saying, why should people without children be supported by people who raise children, that is paraphrased from an article I read this morning. They already seem to have forgotten that the single people paid more in taxes than the breeders and the rich. Someone has to pay for that earned income tax credit. Bringing a child into a capitalist dictatorship is child abuse anyway. It won't take the dictatorship thugs long to have a nuclear war fighting over someone else's resources. I predict the war and concentration camps will be used to cull all of the non-productive. These voters better get along well with their children who will probably hate them for bringing them into this world. Lots of luck with the Trump supporters living with their children in their old age. The billionaires deserve all that social spending money. They worked hard for it.

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My 2nd post retirement job was a law firm administrator aka office manager. We had to partners who were husband and wife, the wife did not change her name, neither had my wife.

I am by avocation, a genetic genealogist and manage a Y DNA surname project. The biggest problem in genealogical research is women shedding (with obvious glee) their birth name and adopting the husbands surname. This alone creates millions, hundreds of millions, impenetrable brick walls.

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I hope so, but it arose and persisted because in the eyes of those that ruled society, men in crowns and funny hats, thumping a book of fiction, devalued women, and the worst part is women were, and not only complicit but actively involved in their own servitude.

Like Phyliss Schafly, Boebert, ACB, MTG, Ashley Babbit and every other woman in the world, that submits to the non status of a woman. especially those that willingly wear head scarves, and bee keeper suits, and those that enable the worst aspects of men who control their lives.

There is a word for them Quislings.

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Thom Hartmann again is telling us how the rightwing is manipulating who gets to vote in GOP held states. Another way they are demonstrating a nationwide concerted effort to take and hold power.

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The GOP doesn't have to rig the vote. But they are doing it in case it's close. Biden on his own is doing a very good job of turning Americans against the Democratic party. His failure to appoint a decent attorney general and prosecute all the traitorous dictatorship insurrectionist instigators in a timely manner, coupled with his inability to use his bully pulpit and explain to the American people what a dictatorship is and what a dictatorship can do. He never mentions a dictatorship can harvest your organs or confiscate your guns or starve you or enslave you or take your social security or your health care or poison your air food and water or torture you or kill you. The voters didn't vote for Biden during the last election they voted against Trump. I am forced to vote for Biden again.

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Dec 5, 2023·edited Dec 6, 2023

Bob, Biden has the ability to use the presidency as a bully pulpit , but not the desire. And this is a fact, his speeches are pedantic, boring, uninspiring and monotone boring. Trumps are illiterate, childish, petulant and filled with hate which he easily transmit to his cult, but he exhibits energy and speaks to the lowest common denominator,which has the thought ability and literacy level of a 5th grader, and that is being generous I wanted to say a third grader.

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So what happens if Republicans lose another rep or two to retirement (e.g. Bill Johnson), gets sick/treatment for a while (e.g. Scalise) or gets expelled (e.g. Santos/Devolder/Zabrovsky/Ravache...) ... ? (Interestingly if that last were really all different people-- then their resignations would already have the Dems in the majority.) Do the "rules" of the house allow for the Dems to take over mid session?

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Now that Russia is no longer communist (just straight up dictator using Christianity for moral propaganda) the GQP wants to go back to doing deals with Russian kleptomaniacs.

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