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By the way, on my fathers side I lost a great great grandfather, a great great uncle and at least four, maybe more, 1st Cousins, 3 times removed. My 3rd great grandfather was the last to own a slave, he died 1859 in Alabama. He was also conscripted into a Georgia slave patrol before he moved to Alabama.

I am not proud of any of it. My "esteemed" ancestors were dirt and pig farmers, sharecroppers and plow boys, even the slave owned by my 3rd great grandfather was an old man over 45, and grandpa only owned 40 acres, not enough to provide anything more than a subsistence income.

His son and those of his brother, who homesteaded adjoining property, migrated to Louisiana as soon as they could. Didn't much improve their circumstances though, wound up a pig farmer in the tall pines of southern Arkansas

Family story is like many others, riches to rags, the problem with fecundity, not enough property left for all of the young 'uns to inherit. Choice was stay put and work for brother or someone else or pack up and move on. Also if died died, as did my 4th great grandfather, before he could tutor all of his sons, those untutored lacked the necessary skill to succeed, even as a farmer, they could neither read nor write, thus completely at the mercy of the market, bankers, wholesalers, merchants combine that with bad habits and there you got it, the formula for downward mobility.

Took two hundred years and socialism to dig the genes out of the hole. I have a masters, son a PhD, as does his daughter.

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I’ve been offered a membership to the DAR, as have my sisters. We’ve all refused because Nana took issue with the fact Marian Anderson, a black opera singer was denied entry to...I can’t remember if it was the Capitol or Constitution Hall because of her race, and was permitted to perform on the front steps only. Nana was not happy with the DAR and left the organization she had helped foster.

In 2015, her great grandson graduated medical school USUHAS as a member of the USAF at Constitution Hall. He’s now stationed in San Antonio TX.

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I could never see the sense or purpose behind the DAR SAR, Sons of the Conferracy etc.

What purpose do they serve other than bragging rights, and if you need bragging rights then you have a serious identity problem

The genesis of the DAR and Colonial Dames is post civil war, high teas, The wives of the upper class would sit around the "drawing room", white gloves, tea, crumpets, chocolate pie (if you ever saw the movie the help, then you get he picture).

When they weren't gossiping (politicking) they were busy trying to outdo the others. It would start with some biddy claiming that her husband was a cousin (times removed) of Judith Jefferson (aunt of Thomas Jefferson) or some other significant person. and on it went, then one day, a woman. who probably did not have knowledge of any famous ancestor, stood up and said "prove it"

And with that challenge the DAR was started.

I have a 6 h or 7th cousin, once removed who joined the DAR because they handed out scholarships to girls. That's cool,

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