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I stand corrected. You are right. I believe you are saying that the Constitution is a framework and a starting point for achieving “a more perfect union” through innovation and change brought about by debate, advocacy, objection, and compromise. My point was that we who identify as liberals are the real conservatives when it comes to essential rights and protections. Those decisions should not be seen as liberal so much as they are in conformity with the stated ideals of the framers, however poorly they were originally practiced or implemented.

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Agreed! Liberal/conservative is a bit of a conundrum anyway. I don't see the current crop of Republicans as conservatives in any sense of the word. "Reactionaries" is more like it -- is there any such thing as a "utopian reactionary"? Someone who wants to go back to a past that never existed? Long time ago, reading Edmund Burke for the first time, I admired and often agreed with his insights -- antiwar activist though I was, and radical feminist in the making. I never believed in "blow it all up and start over," though I knew some people who did (mostly guys), back in the day. I didn't believe in it because I already knew enough history to realize that it never works out the way the dreamers want it to. The goal matters but how you get there matters at least as much.

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Susanna, "Gentleman in Moscow" is now streaming and makes your point about how go wrong.

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