This same thing happened to my grandson at 12-years old. He was just coming into his hormone years and was pushed this asphyxiation thing by FB and tried it. Luckily, he did not kill himself, but we found out with bruises around his neck. Terrified us. That resulted in his losing FB. We think he learned his lesson, but FB is CLEARLY at f…
This same thing happened to my grandson at 12-years old. He was just coming into his hormone years and was pushed this asphyxiation thing by FB and tried it. Luckily, he did not kill himself, but we found out with bruises around his neck. Terrified us. That resulted in his losing FB. We think he learned his lesson, but FB is CLEARLY at fault for this sort of thing. I got off it for four years, only recently returning and already they are sending me MAGA post after MAGA post with disinformation, slander and fake images. Zuckerberg knows exactly what he's doing. It's about the money.
Facebook Arggh. Parents who let their kids use Facebook, Twitter, Tik Tok should be charged with child endangerment.
My wife, whom I worship, has one fault. Facebook, she's bought crap from Facebook, only to find it a fraud, and we had to get a new credit card. The third time was a charm, I hope, she swore she would never do it again.
I don't disagree, William, that FB is not good for kids. That said, a kid can be ostracized by his peers when not interacting via social media. My daughter was quick to take him off the platform after what happened.
That being said, intelligent, perceptive, self validating parents (a very rare, extremely rare commodity) would teach their children, that they are self validating, and that they don't need the approval of others, much less their peers, and that we are not mindless lemmings.
But that would cut into the control that institutions have over us, like religions.
It took me to the age of 15 when I finally realized that peer pressure and peer approval was injurious to my health and well being, not to mention my sense of self.
I got hooked on cigarettes at the age of 12, peer pressure,, and had I not I would not have had lung cancer.
Think of all of the lives that are lost and ruined, the pain, the suffering, the medical and legal expense endured because people succumbed to peer pressure, to partake in drugs, tobacco, alcohol
There wouldn't be a drug problem among kids, were it not for peer pressure, so many teen pregnancies, because the young girl was not taught how to resist pressure, taunts and entreaties
Mr. Farrar, your words are a painful reminder for me. My mother died of lung cancer, as she was a life-long smoker. Like so many other young people, I tried cigarettes briefly during my Freshman year of college. When our family doctor advised me to quit, I quit. I will always be thankful for that good man's advice. It was easy for me to quit because I never got "hooked" on weeds, as so many young people do. I'm lucky; I do not have an addictive sort of constitution.
You are correct about "peer pressure."
When I attended a public high school we were offered a class called "Health Education," which I took. The course introduced us to the dangers of drugs, tobacco, and booze. Unfortunately there was no sex education. It would perhaps not have been such a workable idea to try to teach girls about "how to resist pressure, taunts and entreaties." After all, sex is one of the natural joys in life. One could ask: why not teach the boys to refuse to apply pressure, taunts and entreaties? My father tried that with me. He told me when I was a boy to not take the neighbor girl Barbara out behind the garage and try to pressure her into sex. He thereby gave me the idea that I could possibly do that. So I did. I failed. I think maybe that Health Ed. course I took should have taught us about safe sex. But, of course, the political conservatives and religious fanatics would have gone berserk.
Thanks Mr Dobbertin. I wish that I had your resistance to addiction. Alas I have a lot of Irish DNA and am genetically inclined to alcoholism, which I finally shook in 1989
My single mother educated me in sex, but with proper words, not street slang (my friends were in awe when I told them that rubbers were prophylactic's)
She demystified sex, made it mundane, and invoked in me the fear of getting a girl pregnant and being responsible for the welfare and susistence of the chiild.
Result I date a lot, but never had sex, except with losing my cherry to a Tijuana prostitute, I didn't have sex until my honeymoon..
I know Suzie, but I also addressed the subject of peer pressure, in the comment just below this reply. We need to teach our kids better, but first we have to learn ourselves, that we are not what others think of us.
I know a woman who would not leave her house for vacation, unless every corner was cleaned, and who was deathly afraid of having to show up in an emergency room, not because of injury, but because she might have dirty undies.
Like who gives a shit, when you are injured, and if you are dead how can you even care what someone may think.
The dead are beyond cognition, and surviving relatives will be filled with grief and not at all ashamed about dirty corners or soiled underwear, but that is what happens to people who have been brainwashed from birth.
I am donating my corpse to science and hopefully it will be dissected by med students, do I care if they see the abuse my years have taken upon my corpse? No.
Unfortunately William, that is not what gets taught during sex education. Why do the right wingers oppose hearing the truth? What kind of life would the babies have with one parent and not enough money to have birthday and Christmas presents or sign up for sports at school or buy graduation pictures or eat decent food or not watch your parents be evicted from houses for lack of payment and then watch the neighbor kids turn into drug addicts and rob people...
It is not about sex, it is about educating young people and turning them into human beings that care about others!
I think the right wingers want unplanned pregnancies and enjoy watching young people destroy their lives and their children's lives! Too bad there weren't more parents like your mother!
After thinking on this, William, I have this to offer: It is easy to blame individuals, especially parents, many who are raising kids alone and sometimes working 2-3 jobs. Perhaps if pampered people who don't have to work for a living would stop prancing around at Planned Parenthoods, and actually start caring for...you know..."life," things would be different.
I was raised by a single mom in a project, who had to work, 1st as a waitress in a diner, then as an analyst in a bank for $1.00 an hour. Myself and two younger sisters had to raise each other. I had to take the rental check to the office once a month.
She had no time, nor inclination to be a helicopter parent. She wouldn't let me hide behind her skirts either and made me fight my own battles.
She had her faults and problems, but we all grew up with a sense of responsibility and one of us got into seious trouble. Well I did come close as a teen, but what to expect from a kid in the project.
This same thing happened to my grandson at 12-years old. He was just coming into his hormone years and was pushed this asphyxiation thing by FB and tried it. Luckily, he did not kill himself, but we found out with bruises around his neck. Terrified us. That resulted in his losing FB. We think he learned his lesson, but FB is CLEARLY at fault for this sort of thing. I got off it for four years, only recently returning and already they are sending me MAGA post after MAGA post with disinformation, slander and fake images. Zuckerberg knows exactly what he's doing. It's about the money.
Facebook Arggh. Parents who let their kids use Facebook, Twitter, Tik Tok should be charged with child endangerment.
My wife, whom I worship, has one fault. Facebook, she's bought crap from Facebook, only to find it a fraud, and we had to get a new credit card. The third time was a charm, I hope, she swore she would never do it again.
I don't disagree, William, that FB is not good for kids. That said, a kid can be ostracized by his peers when not interacting via social media. My daughter was quick to take him off the platform after what happened.
The problem is that humans are social animals.
That being said, intelligent, perceptive, self validating parents (a very rare, extremely rare commodity) would teach their children, that they are self validating, and that they don't need the approval of others, much less their peers, and that we are not mindless lemmings.
But that would cut into the control that institutions have over us, like religions.
It took me to the age of 15 when I finally realized that peer pressure and peer approval was injurious to my health and well being, not to mention my sense of self.
I got hooked on cigarettes at the age of 12, peer pressure,, and had I not I would not have had lung cancer.
Think of all of the lives that are lost and ruined, the pain, the suffering, the medical and legal expense endured because people succumbed to peer pressure, to partake in drugs, tobacco, alcohol
There wouldn't be a drug problem among kids, were it not for peer pressure, so many teen pregnancies, because the young girl was not taught how to resist pressure, taunts and entreaties
Mr. Farrar, your words are a painful reminder for me. My mother died of lung cancer, as she was a life-long smoker. Like so many other young people, I tried cigarettes briefly during my Freshman year of college. When our family doctor advised me to quit, I quit. I will always be thankful for that good man's advice. It was easy for me to quit because I never got "hooked" on weeds, as so many young people do. I'm lucky; I do not have an addictive sort of constitution.
You are correct about "peer pressure."
When I attended a public high school we were offered a class called "Health Education," which I took. The course introduced us to the dangers of drugs, tobacco, and booze. Unfortunately there was no sex education. It would perhaps not have been such a workable idea to try to teach girls about "how to resist pressure, taunts and entreaties." After all, sex is one of the natural joys in life. One could ask: why not teach the boys to refuse to apply pressure, taunts and entreaties? My father tried that with me. He told me when I was a boy to not take the neighbor girl Barbara out behind the garage and try to pressure her into sex. He thereby gave me the idea that I could possibly do that. So I did. I failed. I think maybe that Health Ed. course I took should have taught us about safe sex. But, of course, the political conservatives and religious fanatics would have gone berserk.
Thanks Mr Dobbertin. I wish that I had your resistance to addiction. Alas I have a lot of Irish DNA and am genetically inclined to alcoholism, which I finally shook in 1989
My single mother educated me in sex, but with proper words, not street slang (my friends were in awe when I told them that rubbers were prophylactic's)
She demystified sex, made it mundane, and invoked in me the fear of getting a girl pregnant and being responsible for the welfare and susistence of the chiild.
Result I date a lot, but never had sex, except with losing my cherry to a Tijuana prostitute, I didn't have sex until my honeymoon..
I know Suzie, but I also addressed the subject of peer pressure, in the comment just below this reply. We need to teach our kids better, but first we have to learn ourselves, that we are not what others think of us.
I know a woman who would not leave her house for vacation, unless every corner was cleaned, and who was deathly afraid of having to show up in an emergency room, not because of injury, but because she might have dirty undies.
Like who gives a shit, when you are injured, and if you are dead how can you even care what someone may think.
The dead are beyond cognition, and surviving relatives will be filled with grief and not at all ashamed about dirty corners or soiled underwear, but that is what happens to people who have been brainwashed from birth.
I am donating my corpse to science and hopefully it will be dissected by med students, do I care if they see the abuse my years have taken upon my corpse? No.
Unfortunately William, that is not what gets taught during sex education. Why do the right wingers oppose hearing the truth? What kind of life would the babies have with one parent and not enough money to have birthday and Christmas presents or sign up for sports at school or buy graduation pictures or eat decent food or not watch your parents be evicted from houses for lack of payment and then watch the neighbor kids turn into drug addicts and rob people...
It is not about sex, it is about educating young people and turning them into human beings that care about others!
I think the right wingers want unplanned pregnancies and enjoy watching young people destroy their lives and their children's lives! Too bad there weren't more parents like your mother!
After thinking on this, William, I have this to offer: It is easy to blame individuals, especially parents, many who are raising kids alone and sometimes working 2-3 jobs. Perhaps if pampered people who don't have to work for a living would stop prancing around at Planned Parenthoods, and actually start caring for...you know..."life," things would be different.
I was raised by a single mom in a project, who had to work, 1st as a waitress in a diner, then as an analyst in a bank for $1.00 an hour. Myself and two younger sisters had to raise each other. I had to take the rental check to the office once a month.
She had no time, nor inclination to be a helicopter parent. She wouldn't let me hide behind her skirts either and made me fight my own battles.
She had her faults and problems, but we all grew up with a sense of responsibility and one of us got into seious trouble. Well I did come close as a teen, but what to expect from a kid in the project.