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William Farrar's avatar

I don't think that Trump or anyone can purge the voting roles NATIONALLY, nor can the SAVE Act or an Executive order be NATIONAL law, and in that regards even the Supreme court of the US, inserting itself into state elections, including gerrymandering is in violation of the 10th Amendment.

It takes a constitutional amendment to change laws and procedures, for voting, marriage, guns,.

Red States can and will abide by any law passed by congress or ruling by SCOTUS that fits their needs, but Blue states aan and should disregard and ignore.

The problem is that We The People, have been conditioned to accept SCOTUS as the absolute final word, and the same with Congressional laws, and even the best of us, based on emails i get from the Bulwark and Meidas Touch, etc have fallen into that trap.

S howard's avatar

William, we go under the name United States, but we are actually the wild west and now a fascist state. They actually ARE doing it. The question is: what can the dems do about it?

William Farrar's avatar

There is nothing that can be done at the federall evel, because they control the judicial system, the police, the military. However there is a lot that can be done at the sate level

From governors issuing executive orders, attorney generals filing law suits, in State Courts.

For instance Mary Moriate, prosecutor of Hennepin County, MN could have filed charges against Greg Bovino and the agents like Johnathan Ross, who killed Good and Pretti, she has all the evidence she needs in the form of Video's, which have been used in other criminal cases, but she is a coward and hides behind the DHS, claiming that they won't cooperate. She doesn't need their cooperation

There is a lot our blue state governors and attorney generals can do, IF and that is big if, they have a spine. So are they have been great at standing in front of a mic and talking big.. an alligator mouth and humming bird ass.

Christopher Armitage has a substack, it is dedicated to state solutions, and he has samples of comments and calls, with legal references you can use to harass your elected representatives, and that is what it takes.

Here is a sample:https://cmarmitage.substack.com/p/is-there-a-legal-strategy-that-could

Here is his latest; The Courts Struck Down Virginia’s Gerrymander. Here Is a List of Times the GOP Has Ignored Court Rulings and Just Done What They Wanted Without Consequence.https://cmarmitage.substack.com/p/the-courts-struck-down-virginias

Why don't the Dems do the same,ignore the courts.?

sign up for his substack

S howard's avatar

I see your point William but do we really want to push the wild west we are in to get even more wild? I suppose if we want a full on war with the right we could and probably should do that. I am getting sick and tired of the criminals and criminality for our federal gov right now especially the inferior, treasonous and insurrectionist SCOTUS and the fat cats.

It is obscene and with the money Musk , and many other rich crooks have and their willingness and ability to celebrate and support the dark side we certainly need to act on things now and not later. We need to know that the powers that be are in fact ready to push that envelope as hard as it needs to be pushed.

William Farrar's avatar

You either stand up and fight for your rights or you live and die a slave.

Our founders knew that and put themselves on the line.

And it is going to get even more wild, with Trumps GESTAPO knocking down door.

Do you really think that those detention centers being built (7 of them in the OBBB) are for immigrants

ICE has been trained and conditioned to knock down our doors and haul off the people (us, that Trump has declared radical left winning antifa terrorists, or did you miss that.

Liberals, progressives, leftist need to get off their backsides and get the message, we are ON THE MENU.

S howard's avatar

I agree William. We are on the menu and I don't want those fascist velociraptors knocking on my door.

William Farrar's avatar

Fascist velociraptors. I love it, what an accurate description.

Gloria J. Maloney's avatar

It's not even what CAN dems do about it, it's what WILL dems do about it.

S howard's avatar

You have a good point Gloria

Protect the Vote's avatar

The 2024 Georgia Vigilante Challenge Becomes A National Purge

Has anyone ever wondered why Cheeto and his Nazi allies in Congress have wanted the SAVE Act to pass? Why has the DOJ been actively pursuing the voting registration data of states' voter roles? The Nazi Republicans have been actively pursuing voter information but why?

The answer lies in Georgia during the 2024 election when in a beta test the Nazi Republicans began a voting purge of registered Georgia voters by a tactic now called a "vigilante challenge" which is a law on the books in many states that allow any state citizen to challenge another registered voter in the state simply by presenting the name to the Secretary of State's(SOS) office Unless the challenge is offset by the registered voter's information, disenfranchisement of the voter occurs Thousands of vigilante challenges flooded the Georgia's SOS offices and given the sheer numbers it pushed Cheeto's narrow electoral win(bit.ly/41UelTx)

Now fast forward to Theil's Palantir fascist software and a national purge using the vigilante challenge on a national scale This is one of many tactics that will be used to nullify the angry American sentiment heading toward the 2026 midterms Buckle up!!!

William Farrar's avatar

Only a handful of people challenged the voters. Remember the Brooks Brother Riots in Florida, when Bush stole that election.

The Republicans can only win by stealing and fraud. The problem is the Democratic party that sits back and lets them, like Kamala did on Nov 6 at 4 PM, when she conceded the election while votes were being counted and while voter fraud was taking place by Republicans in Pennsylvania and Florida.

You don't win by surrendering after a slap in the face.

Protect the Vote's avatar

Not true that it was only handful of people If you listen to the cited investigative journalist Palast report on his documentary it will be apparent Literally thousands of Nazi volunteers did the work Some challenged one or two voters others hundreds

William Farrar's avatar

I've been on this since the election, The law permits you to challenge more than one person, that is why I said a handful of people. Imagine this, a working group sitting around tables, scrubbing voter rolls, and then initiating challenges., it was a factory line production, not individual NAZI's here and here.

Chris Brodin's avatar

If they succeed in stealing another election it will be the end of democracy in the USA. It’s like the dems are in a physical fight but just keep taking body punches. Why?

Gloria J. Maloney's avatar

They want to keep their high-paying jobs with good benefits and insider trader information. Not all, but many.

Jeffrey Hobbs's avatar

The Republican notion that taking race into account when redistricting is racist assumes that minorities do not experience discrimination any more. Yes, and they don't experience it any less, either. If there were no racial discrimination, Blacks and Whites would vote the same way by party, but of course they don't--far from it. In this way, party affiliation becomes a convenient fig leaf for racial gerrymandering.

Robot Bender's avatar

No, they know minorities are more likely to vote Democratic. That's why they're trying this.

S howard's avatar

Black lives matter.

Women's lives matter

Immigrant lives matter.

Your life matters.

S howard's avatar

We are all in the same life boat while tRump and his sycophants build concentration camps and disrupt world order.

FDD's avatar

Shame on the DNC & elected Dems, especially so-called leaders, for not making these tactics the main story in their communications and forcing msm to report on it… the Rethugs are now openly fascist but the Dems are complicit…

Gordon Berry's avatar

There is no complicity of the Democrats in this effort - almost every Deocratic leader has deplored the Rethug effort. But I agree that the Rethug "fixing" of the vote is the #1 need to clean up before November - We need Democratic vote counting machines in every precinct to counteract ther present counting cheats which have been well publicize by "This will Hold" and other investigations etc .

FDD's avatar

Based in Thom’s research, the failure of Dems to shine a light on these fascist tactics is why I believe Dems are complicit, unwittingly so, but they MUST begin making this a huge story that everyone understands…

S howard's avatar

I am getting sick and tired of the criminals and criminality in our federal gov right now especially the inferior, treasonous and insurrectionist SCOTUS and the fat cats.

It is obscene and with the money Musk , and many other rich crooks have and their willingness and ability to celebrate and support the dark side we certainly need to act on things now and not later. We need to know that the powers that be are in fact ready to push that envelope as hard as it needs to be pushed.

Tomonthebeach's avatar

What has never been made clear is what individual voters can do prior to an upcoming election to ensure they are validly registered to vote. Eliminating voters solely on the basis of having names on a list of convicted felons is surely illegal. If they have SSNs, DOBs, and other identification data, that should clarify voter identity. Then there is this law stating that STATES run elections. Of course, Fascist Florida and Texas can and have colluded.

At 79, I can and do vote in Florida by mail. Nothing like standing in a long line in tropical heat with arthritis. But this year, I had to re-register for mailed voting - new DeSantis scam. I had to get online and request that a ballot be mailed to my house. Lots of Boomers and Silents are computer illiterate and do not even have a PC with internet access. Many likely ignored the card mailed from the county elections office and are clueless that they will no longer be getting ballots automatically like what used to be the law.

Dianne Walter's avatar

I completely agree! The only way I can think of to counter this corruption is a massive voter turn out in November.

Patricia Lane's avatar

These fascists do not play by any accepted rules or standards . They are thugs endorsed by the right wing Supremely illegal Supreme Court in- ( justices). We know who they are . Along with widespread education on ALL of these dirty tactics to kill democrats voting rights we need to work on legislation to change the parameters on John Robert’s League of Liars.

Many of them have violated the few rules intended to keep them straight as

alleged justices.

They should go first .

But we need to be in charge of new rules for the court.

They sure as hell don’t have the integrity to do it. They’ve proven that many times over.

Sir Okie Doke's avatar

The GOP is a hive-minded Keyser Söze, based on their annihilation of the Black vote.

Söze's the mythic [possibly fabricated by another character [Verbal Kint ]} Turkish crime lord.

Keyser is at the center of "The Usual Suspects" (1995).

However, the GOP may, that's MAY, be relying too heavily on 100% White racism.

We'll soon find out !!!

PS You may want to check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF1cZrQV1Js

#VOTE smart #Draft Barron for Iran

Marc Guilbert's avatar

Trump's Mother's Day message has a truly disturbing entry buried within: where tRump refers to Bloomberg economists having (I'm quoting exactly here) - ...a "terminal" case of TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME.

You have to give Rs credit for messaging discipline. The fact that "TDS" keeps getting carted out tells me they are planning to use it as an excuse someday. The DHS put out their "The peace of a nation no longer besieged by the third world - America after 100 million deportations" tweet, which can be interpreted to mean they want 100 million less people walking our streets freely. The number of folks they call "illegal" immigrants is nowhere near that number. But add it to the 80 million people who voted for Biden or Harris, then it makes sense.

I'm concerned the real reason they want voting records is to get the list of 80 million folks who voted against him, then have RFK Jr. declare TDS a legit mental illness, with the main symptom being not voting for Trump in an election, so that they can all be dealt with, somehow. Maybe sending us to forced farm labor camps (aka "Wellness Camps that RFK has touted) to replace the migrant workers who they've kicked out of the country? Or worse?

Retired Analyst Mike's avatar

Democrats need to push an alternative to the Save Act. If necessary they need to push for a Constitutional Right to Vote and Have Your Vote Counted. Only being charged and convicted of voter fraud should be the single way to throw out a vote.

The Government already has all the data to prove citizenship or eligibility. The election officials should not have authority to throw out any vote but should only be able to refer them for a criminal investigation. Voter fraud is a crime so it should require a serious investigation. This would target voter fraud instead of the SAVE Act objective of voter suppression.  Once and for all we would have clear information on how rare is voter fraud. This should deter Trump and his supporters from making false claims of mass voter fraud. 

S howard's avatar

Hey, Retired Analyst Mike. Good Call!

Retired Analyst Mike's avatar

Thank you. I want to be on Thom's show as guest and do a 15 minute segment. Please read my substack it is free. I have much more analysis on the site.

Protect the Vote's avatar

Free And Fair Elections Under Attack: WE the People Must Respond

This Hartmann reporting(https://bit.ly/4wo97hi) is essential to Substack readers to bring awareness to the Nazi Republican assault on free and fair elections For the most part WE the People are unaware of this sinister plot by the Nazis to retain power forever

First steps WE must take:

Early voting is MANDATORY to ensure that any challenge to your vote can be thwarted

WE the People can fight this with awareness of this Nazi attempt and urging everyone of our friends, neighbors, relatives, and family to vote early to avoid being disenfranchised as a registered voter After voting one last step to check that your vote has been tabulated

Call your senators today through the Capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121 and tell them you want algorithmic transparency legislation and Section 230 reform.

Make sure your voter registration is current at vote.org, check on your state-level legislators at openstates.org, and start telling everyone you know that science has now proven that the 2024 election wasn’t a free and fair contest of ideas

Also contact your state rep/state senator to introduce a trigger law and have it in place before the 2026 midterm election: if the federal government interferes with the election, the state will redirect federal taxes to an escrow account

Demand of any candidate that you support will make it a priority to stop at a federal level voting rights laws that close all of the criminal Nazi Republican loopholes that will guarantee voters free and fair elections

S howard's avatar

In only disagree with one word in your entire commentary. That word is republican. Please note there are no republicans. The republicans have all been replaced by fascists. Remember, if it walk like a duck and talks like a duck it is a duck. Same holds true for fascists in republican clothing. Call them out for what they really are. Nazis yes, fascists yes, Repubs not a chance.

Protect the Vote's avatar

Thanks for the clarification Spot on

Dianne Walter's avatar

This is just shocking. I had no idea the purging was so extensive. We need to call our representatives and senators immediately to highlight this criminal conspiracy!

Protect the Vote's avatar

The 2024 Georgia Vigilante Challenge Becomes A National Purge

Has anyone ever wondered why Cheeto and his Nazi allies in Congress have wanted the SAVE Act to pass? Why has the DOJ been actively pursuing the voting registration data of states' voter roles? The Nazi Republicans have been actively pursuing voter information but why?

The answer lies in Georgia during the 2024 election when in a beta test the Nazi Republicans began a voting purge of registered Georgia voters by a tactic now called a "vigilante challenge" which is a law on the books in many states that allow any state citizen to challenge another registered voter in the state simply by presenting the name to the Secretary of State's(SOS) office Unless the challenge is offset by the registered voter's information, disenfranchisement of the voter occurs Thousands of vigilante challenges flooded the Georgia's SOS offices and given the sheer numbers it pushed Cheeto's narrow electoral win(bit.ly/41UelTx)

Now fast forward to Theil's Palantir fascist software and a national purge using the vigilante challenge on a national scale This is one of many tactics that will be used to nullify the angry American sentiment heading toward the 2026 midterms Buckle up!!!

Gene Wood's avatar

Assuming we have elections this year and in 2028 this may be the last time we have the ability to vote .. the trend so far isn’t good .. now’s the time to get these bastards out of office

Jackie's avatar

Thom, this is going to be a heavy lift. I, need to know how we stop the taking of a voices and our vote. What, is the plan against this, Thom? Keep using the same playbook and they do. Well, what do we do?