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This is yet another ‘flaw in the system’ brought about by Trump. Yes, he sold pardons. We all know this. It was news in 2021 after the election. Now, he’s flaunting all this in our faces as he again strives to turn our country into a dictatorship.

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I can definitely see Trump monetizing his pardon power just as he did everything else. I could also see Rudy agreeing to split the take, but I could also see Trump stiffing Rudy on this just as he did on Rudy’s attempt to dig up dirt on the Biden family and Ukraine.

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"[T]he chance of the next Republican president being just as corrupt as Trump is far from a remote possibility."

Research Project 2025 to learn what ultra MAGA mega-donors have been developing over the years (decades?) for some future GOP leader. Proj25 is just the latest iteration.

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Pardons for Profit Inc along with its board of dictators - Trump, Kushner, and Guliani - should have been thoroughly investigated and reported on years ago. I remember hearing about this criminal scheme at the time in brief whisperings from our few remaining respectable sources of journalism.

It seems as though our fourth estate is operating in an absurd realm of self imposed gag orderdom by trying to hold itself to the same burden of proof as required by a criminal court - a bar so high it is nearly impossible to clear (given you are represented by "good" legal counsel).

Journalism is NOT criminal court and should never act like one (in terms of tipping the scales to the "defendant's" benefit).

As the unofficial investigative arm of our society, our fourth estate can only function as intended when it does its job with integrity, without "fear or favor", and absent a ridiculous expectation of perfection in proving far beyond any doubt whatsoever that a thing did or did not happen.

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I do not know whether DOJ has "Trump fatigue." But I would believe that it's prioritizing its investigations & prosecutions of Trump by their degree of overt threat to the Republic. We might not know whether it's already investigating Trump and Giuliani for selling pardons until one or more indictments is unsealed.

The Office of the Pardon Attorney, by the way, is in DOJ, not in the White House. So going directly to the White House to seek a pardon would keep the matter out of the ken of career DOJ lawyers who might well have objected.

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Donald tRump is a criminal and always has been. He received excellent tutoring in criminality by mob lawyer, Roy Kohn.

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Why is the DOJ tired of bringing more investigations and charges against the most corrupt president in all of American history?

This really means that at least half of the DOJ is corrupt - starting at the top. Just look at SCOTUS! & Merrick Garland should NEVER have been AG!

We’re losing our “government for the People” to the rich old boys club. Aargh!

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Nov 28, 2023·edited Nov 28, 2023Liked by Thom Hartmann

Trump is unquestionably the most corrupt office holder (surely president) the US has ever had since July 4th , 1776. Donald Trump would be in jail by now were it not for one thing that all America should keep in mind. Trump did not scam and con all that money from his presidency without help. He need protection from his mob, aka the Republican Party. They made sure he and his henchmen were impeachment-proof. They will not even allow impeachment of corrupt justices.

None of our founding fathers ever considered that so many men and women of dishonor would run for public office, much less be elected. Of course, even for those of us with the IQ of a sack of potatoes had to see the light when George Santos, (or whateverhisnameis) was sworn into office as a legislator, and the GOP did not immediately boot him out once it was clear that he was a fraud.

Trump is the most dishonorable person ever to be sworn in as president. He dishonored those of us who served in uniform especially those who died in the service of their country. In his mind we are all suckers. People who suffered as Vietnam POWs, including Col Larry Guarino USAF (longest held) and his #2 officer in Hanoi, CAPT John McCain USN were"losers" despite their daily heroism in captivity. Trump is a man who respects nobody but people who are a threat to his life or his wealth - just like his idol Alphonse Capone or countless shifty mobsters with whom he and his minions collaborated.

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Trump was selling pardons, no doubt. Though chump change when compared with what he was getting for top secret defense information. He told an Australian buddy how close a US sub can get to a Russian sub with being detected. That has to be a top tier secret - or was. Oh, and first we have to detect their subs ... billions of taxpayer money funded development of several technologies involved.

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Great article to forward to DOJ/FBI as a report of crimes...

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Billionaires for fascism and citizens united. Billionaires love SCOTUS and Trump.

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If they can jail Trump, they can jail any billionaire.

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This article almost brings me to tears. My faith in our top institutions is almost gone. Is there any part of our government "by the people" that we can be proud of now? Please help me out and name it.

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Mr. Hartman. Thank you for bringing up this apparently-forgotten subject. To those who believe the DOJ is likely investigating Trump's many illegal acts; and also say we simply do not know about these investigations yet. I say: You are whistling as you walk past the cemetery.

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It occurs to me that there might be some merit in you and Seymour Hersh joining forces on exposés. Maybe also Steve Schmidt and Dennis Kucinich...??? All on Substack.

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Nov 28, 2023·edited Nov 28, 2023

Step right up---get your red hot presidential pardon! For a mere two million dollars you too can escape the consequences of your crimes!

This is just another aspect of the fact Trump thinks buying your way out of trouble is "normal". To him, it's the right of anyone who has money, especially other people's money.

What to do? You can't shame him, and Rudy is too drunk to care about his own reputation. Still exposure is a good thing. This is another reason to vote for Joe. We know he has a conscience and hopefully future presidents will have one too.

This is one more thing to add to Trump's despicable legacy.

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