Thanks Daniel, however there are 613 Laws in the book of Laws, Leviticus) and this Joshua who the Romans named IHSus, and the Church Iesus, and became Jesus, means Savior, and he declared that the laws of Leviticus are not abolished. , but fulfilled whatever that means.
Christ supposedly means messiah, massiach in Hebrew, for annointed (w…
Thanks Daniel, however there are 613 Laws in the book of Laws, Leviticus) and this Joshua who the Romans named IHSus, and the Church Iesus, and became Jesus, means Savior, and he declared that the laws of Leviticus are not abolished. , but fulfilled whatever that means.
Christ supposedly means messiah, massiach in Hebrew, for annointed (with oil) one.
The Greek had no word for messiah, so the early church reached into their version of the dictionary, and came up with Christos, meaning to rub with oil, (see also Crisco)
I do not wish to tread into antisemitic territory, not add to tropes.
This is how I see the rise of Christianity. After the Romans plundered the Temple and hauled the silver away to build the Coliseum and other structures,as well as take tens of thousands if not more as slaves, and after Masada. The Hebrew leadership realized that they could not destroy Rome from without, so they came up with a clever plan to destroy it from within, but preaching a religion of pacifism, and welfare, like turn the other cheek,
Like all new ideologies it spurred competitors, the most virulent of them were gentile converts and soon the market places of Rome and it's cities, were a den of noise,with these neophyte missionaries vying with each other for attention, thus followers and thus coin.
It must have been a maddening scene, into which a wannabe Emperor named Contantine defeated his challenger Maxentius at the battle of the Milivan Bridge.
He did so by use of psychological warfare. The Romans, at the time, were polytheists, and among their gods was an Eastern goddess, known by many names, (Venus) but known as Astarte, Ashera, Esther, Astar, Ishtar and she was not only a goddess of fertility, but a fierce warrior goddess known to take no prisoners.
Her signet was the Chi (X) superimposed on the Rho (P), thus the Papal symbol, he had his army paint the Chi Rho on their shields and this terrorized the army of Maxentius who outnumbered, Constantines, and they fled thus he won the day and the Empired.
After assuming the Imperial Throne, he had to deal with civil disorder. He himself was a disciple of Mithra, also born on Dec 25th).
Mithrra was the main god of the Roman legions, originally a Persian god, IIRC,
It didn't take much for him to come to the realization, as Ahkenaton did before him, that it is much easier and cost effective, to rule a nationwith one god, rather than dozens maybe hundreds of competing priesthoods, all demanding attention and temples (expensive). and needing to be placate that he may rule, so he ordained that there was only one god, and he chose the most loudmouthed and bullying of the soap boxers, to be the Bishop of Rome, the MFWIC, but that didn't stop the quarreling.
There were different interpretations of this new religion. So gathered these loud mouths up and had them shipped to Nicea in modern Anatolia, set guards at the door, plied them with wine,young boys,maidens until they came up with a consensus as to doctrine, and the result was the Nicene Creed and the Catholic religion. There still was no real , but many competing Popes or\Bridge or Pontifficus Maximus, until Charlemagne
A dude named Jerome, assisted with a dude subsequently given the title of The Great One or St Augustine, translated the assorted documents gathered from these "apostles" and translated them into the vulgar Latin (the Latin of he common people) and there were many versions of Vulgar Latin, they still survive in he form of the Romance Languages.
Augustine who had been a Manichean Priest (Mithra was a Greek apostle of Zoroastrianism named Mani, until he watched Pope Leo "The Great" thrown the Manicheans to the lions with all of the glee once reserved for Christians, saw the light and became a fanatical convert.
His contribution was to introduce the duality of god , punishment, reward hell and heaven, good and bad into this fledgling cult of Rome, he gave us Satan the bad god and he who is not named, (HaShem) the good god. In Zoroastrianism, the Good God is Ahura Mazda and the bad god is Ahriman.
These concepts do not exist in Hebrew, or shall I say the Hebrew of the Torah.
Before it was finally approved by Constantine, it was vetted by the richest and most powerful man in Rome. Piso. It is unknown what influence Piso asserted on the final product, ,most certainly it was "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is Gods", Thus there was no excuse for tax avoidance claiming a religious exemption.
The war like nature of this Piso Jesus can be found inserted into Luke where he says sell your cloak and buy a sword and bring them before me that will not reign over them and slay them LUKE 19 and 22)
Piso also blamed the Jews for the crucifixion A crucifixion of a person who never existed and was probably a Jewish rebel, if anything.
This is what I have discerned from over 70years of reading and researching.
The Jews were quietly living their own lives, not bothering anyway, collecting taxes and rents from a caravan stop named UruSalem, when the Romans invaded and slaughtered them into submission.
In the catacombs of the coliseum in Roma, all the inscriptions of the graves of the martyrs are in Hebrew. The first popes were Jews.
Constantine's wife converted him. At Nicea, the argument was whether they had to follow those 613 laws and whether to accept the trinity as Arianism, Christ was not divine but was a created being was rejected by a close vote. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea
Thanks Daniel, however there are 613 Laws in the book of Laws, Leviticus) and this Joshua who the Romans named IHSus, and the Church Iesus, and became Jesus, means Savior, and he declared that the laws of Leviticus are not abolished. , but fulfilled whatever that means.
Christ supposedly means messiah, massiach in Hebrew, for annointed (with oil) one.
The Greek had no word for messiah, so the early church reached into their version of the dictionary, and came up with Christos, meaning to rub with oil, (see also Crisco)
I do not wish to tread into antisemitic territory, not add to tropes.
This is how I see the rise of Christianity. After the Romans plundered the Temple and hauled the silver away to build the Coliseum and other structures,as well as take tens of thousands if not more as slaves, and after Masada. The Hebrew leadership realized that they could not destroy Rome from without, so they came up with a clever plan to destroy it from within, but preaching a religion of pacifism, and welfare, like turn the other cheek,
Like all new ideologies it spurred competitors, the most virulent of them were gentile converts and soon the market places of Rome and it's cities, were a den of noise,with these neophyte missionaries vying with each other for attention, thus followers and thus coin.
It must have been a maddening scene, into which a wannabe Emperor named Contantine defeated his challenger Maxentius at the battle of the Milivan Bridge.
He did so by use of psychological warfare. The Romans, at the time, were polytheists, and among their gods was an Eastern goddess, known by many names, (Venus) but known as Astarte, Ashera, Esther, Astar, Ishtar and she was not only a goddess of fertility, but a fierce warrior goddess known to take no prisoners.
Her signet was the Chi (X) superimposed on the Rho (P), thus the Papal symbol, he had his army paint the Chi Rho on their shields and this terrorized the army of Maxentius who outnumbered, Constantines, and they fled thus he won the day and the Empired.
After assuming the Imperial Throne, he had to deal with civil disorder. He himself was a disciple of Mithra, also born on Dec 25th).
Mithrra was the main god of the Roman legions, originally a Persian god, IIRC,
It didn't take much for him to come to the realization, as Ahkenaton did before him, that it is much easier and cost effective, to rule a nationwith one god, rather than dozens maybe hundreds of competing priesthoods, all demanding attention and temples (expensive). and needing to be placate that he may rule, so he ordained that there was only one god, and he chose the most loudmouthed and bullying of the soap boxers, to be the Bishop of Rome, the MFWIC, but that didn't stop the quarreling.
There were different interpretations of this new religion. So gathered these loud mouths up and had them shipped to Nicea in modern Anatolia, set guards at the door, plied them with wine,young boys,maidens until they came up with a consensus as to doctrine, and the result was the Nicene Creed and the Catholic religion. There still was no real , but many competing Popes or\Bridge or Pontifficus Maximus, until Charlemagne
A dude named Jerome, assisted with a dude subsequently given the title of The Great One or St Augustine, translated the assorted documents gathered from these "apostles" and translated them into the vulgar Latin (the Latin of he common people) and there were many versions of Vulgar Latin, they still survive in he form of the Romance Languages.
Augustine who had been a Manichean Priest (Mithra was a Greek apostle of Zoroastrianism named Mani, until he watched Pope Leo "The Great" thrown the Manicheans to the lions with all of the glee once reserved for Christians, saw the light and became a fanatical convert.
His contribution was to introduce the duality of god , punishment, reward hell and heaven, good and bad into this fledgling cult of Rome, he gave us Satan the bad god and he who is not named, (HaShem) the good god. In Zoroastrianism, the Good God is Ahura Mazda and the bad god is Ahriman.
These concepts do not exist in Hebrew, or shall I say the Hebrew of the Torah.
Before it was finally approved by Constantine, it was vetted by the richest and most powerful man in Rome. Piso. It is unknown what influence Piso asserted on the final product, ,most certainly it was "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is Gods", Thus there was no excuse for tax avoidance claiming a religious exemption.
The war like nature of this Piso Jesus can be found inserted into Luke where he says sell your cloak and buy a sword and bring them before me that will not reign over them and slay them LUKE 19 and 22)
Piso also blamed the Jews for the crucifixion A crucifixion of a person who never existed and was probably a Jewish rebel, if anything.
This is what I have discerned from over 70years of reading and researching.
The Jews were quietly living their own lives, not bothering anyway, collecting taxes and rents from a caravan stop named UruSalem, when the Romans invaded and slaughtered them into submission.
In the catacombs of the coliseum in Roma, all the inscriptions of the graves of the martyrs are in Hebrew. The first popes were Jews.
Constantine's wife converted him. At Nicea, the argument was whether they had to follow those 613 laws and whether to accept the trinity as Arianism, Christ was not divine but was a created being was rejected by a close vote. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea
Thanks Daniel I know that, but resisted saying as much as I hesitated adding to antisemitic tropes.