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Daniel Solomon's avatar

When I lived in Pennsyltucky, I represented several churches, and represented people who were being excommunicated the Archdiocese or in annulments. I represented several groups in schisms.

I started in a Polish school because they took me early. The teachers in public school were Presbyterians. I was "Exhibit A" as the only Jewish kid for several years.

I am still a student, currently in a class at UM - "Cosmic Roots" history of religion.

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William Farrar's avatar

Daniel there is one thing I would like your input on. I know you are familiar with Josephus, but other might not be. Josephus was a Roman Jew, or Jewish Roman, he was a scholar and wrote two books The Antiquities of the Jews and the Jewish Wars.

In the Antiquiities of the Jews, he mentions a Jesus Christ or a man they call Christ.

This is an interpolation (an insertment) by Piso it is assumed, because no Jew, no honest Jew would refer to this Yahooshua, Joshua, Jesus as the Messiah or Christ.

There strict requirements for a mashiach (messiah).

Christians constantly haul out Josephus as proof that Jesus existed, and time and again one has to deflate that claim, as Josephus would never, ever refer to this supposed Jesus as a messiah, annointed one or in Greek a Christ).

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

Propaganda written for Romans, not Jews. Same with the gospels, Paul, etc.

Also, messiahs were ubiquitous. Think Life of Brian.

Apparently James, brother of Jesus and Simon Peter were competitors, but were not literate, at least in Greek, which was the lengua franca of the period. James would have limited Christianity as a sect of Judaism.

There were sects, like Chosen Jews of India or China or Iraq or Ethiopia that had not been in Israel for in some cases, hundreds of years.

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William Farrar's avatar

None of the three "brothers" ever existed. It is all myth. The so called gospels weren't written down until after Nicea.

I totally agree propaganda for the Romans. Jews couldn't beat them on the battle field, or with an insurgency, so best way to beat the enemy if from within. Romans were militaristic, so turn them into pacifists.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

IMHO the Codex Sinaiticus, which included the Synoptic gospels. A/K/A Sinai Bible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gospels

Lots of apocrypha. The Gnostic Gospels.

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William Farrar's avatar

Interesting Daniel. I go deeper than religion. I am into roots and origins of peoples.

For instance I can trace my YDNA back to 1440 West Yorkshire England, but it is 4,000 miles and 3,450 years to what is now the steppes near the Caspian Sea, possibly what is now Northern Iran. YDNA Haplogroup R-Y5582, it branched off into R-YP5578) my branch and R-FT153709 which branched off about 2350 BCE, I have three very distant cousins that I know of so far, one is Iranian two are Kuwaiti.

Religions are artifacts if man, and as such their origin stories are man made.

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