Gloria here has broached the subject correctly. Until such time that the DNC does an about face and fully embraces the platforms of Sander's 2016 election bid, throws in what Alexandria Ocasio Cortez brings to the table, aggressively declares a new day in American politics that address all the inequities with a vengeance, and promises to…
Gloria here has broached the subject correctly. Until such time that the DNC does an about face and fully embraces the platforms of Sander's 2016 election bid, throws in what Alexandria Ocasio Cortez brings to the table, aggressively declares a new day in American politics that address all the inequities with a vengeance, and promises to fix what they helped create, I cannot endorse the DNC. Right here and now, ALL IS LOST. If anyone thinks they can essentially go on as before with a tweak here and there, they are every but as delusional as MAGA voters.
We are going to endure (or not) the most forceful course "correction" by this new party that nearly if not ALL Republicans have capitulated to. Everything we have counted on as bedrock over the past 80 some years will be destroyed. Through capricious, callous, gleeful and vengeful actions, laws, and edicts, the USA will become a very different country. I see awareness of that in this forum, but not in the eyes of the Americans I encounter, do business with and interact with in any way, shape or form. Football and Disney go on as if nothing has changed. As it becomes evident to the majority, they will be looking for answers because it will be clear that THIS answer was alarmingly and stupidly wrong.
New leadership COULD come from the Democrats. But they haven't even denounced neo-liberalism yet. Again, until they do, and until they admit that Bernie was precisely right and that they have been unforgivably fraudulent for decades now, the people that voted for Trump will not be fooled again. Our government has been taken over by Plutocratic forces that are not unique to America, but that only America has the chance of fixing. So far, I say, they don't agree with me.
And I did not even mention The Heritage Foundation's contribution to this cluster f**K, with their intolerable theocratic agenda and their "Bannonish" glee with the installation of a Czar. Or the appalling success of Leo Leonard's mission of taking over the Supreme Court to make it little more than a green light for the raping of America as we have known it, along with the 90% of us.
I completely agree with you. Possibly everything needs to crash and burn before something better happens, I don't think for a minute if Harris would have won Dem's would have had a serious course correction, just some more status quo.
Peter. I agreed about Sanders, Until I learned that Bernie Sanders honeymooned in Moscow and that 10 day trip shaped his views about Russia, and it also explains his opposition to aiding Ukraine.
Got to keep the eye on the ball. It's all about the culture. Hate Trumped logic. 90% of the margin voted against their own economic and physical health.
I supported Bernie until he picked the wrong team re Cuba. So long Florida. Same went for BLM. Down here in the tropics the Dems went for Trump.
The way for a Dem to win is to be inclusive not exclusive.
Problem with Bernie is he is deep down a Marxist. I have antipathy towards Marx and Marxism, for one thing he is not a socialist, he was a proto libertarian,
but I have no truck with any ist or ism, be it secular or sectarian.
Ism's require unfettered devotion and loyalty, and are antithetical to critical thinking and individuality.
From what I have seen, in the eyes of a Marxist, a Marxist government can do no wrong, regardless of how antihuman they are, and in my opinion Putin the beneficiary of the residual Marxism of many on the left In the 1950s and 1960s the Brits called them Tankies (a wikipedia article on Tankie), we have a 2024 version of Tankie, in the form of Tulsi Gabbard, Jill Stein, et al.
While IMO, Trump voters are in fact, deplorable, white Christian nationalists racist, Not all are.
There is significant portion of the black and Hispanic population that are Trump humpers, despite the overt raacism of the GOP, they shunt it aside, ignore it, because there is something that trumps (no pun) race, and that is male dominance. The cry is Male power, not black power.
As regards inclusion. The racist doesn't like being told he or she is racist, the bigot doesn't like being told that he or she is a bigot.
They make pretense that they are not, that is how they survive.
Bill Maher had a TV show Politically Incorrect, very popular because people, don't like having their speech and bigotry throttled. He is still at it, only now he can safely vent on the last remaining minority that has no constituency. the Trans and is enjoined by gays like Andrew Sullivan,who angrily defends his gains but would gladly squash transwomen, probably because much of homophobia is misogynistic in origin. and he is proud of being a gay man, not a wanna be woman. (Iran has formalized this opinion as it forces gay men, if caught, into sexual reassignment surgery, which is a step up from ISIS which throws them off
roofs.)
I well imagine that there is a lot of homosexual activity in Islamic countries, for the same reason as prison "marriages" Imagine a Saudi Porn magazine with men beating off to women in abaya's.
Bigotry and prejudice exists and you can't legislate it away, trying to just exacerbates the problem, and you can''t stifle speech either, you just piss off the people whose speech is stifled.
What you can do is disarm the speech, by making it everyday. In America cunt is a female specific slur, and feminists get outraged, in England men and women are called cunt,it is like calling someone an arse.
Queer was once an epithet hurled at gay men, lesbo or dyke hulred at lesbians.
The LGBT community has owned the word queer,and it is no longer a slur.and dykes proudly call themselves dykes (as opposed to lipstick lesbians). Dykes on Bikes, a feature of every gay pride parade.
Blacks use the word niggah addressing each other and even to whites, We are long past Jim Crow and how the word was used to keep blacks down. Blacks will use the term "my niggah" affectionately. if it were common parlance it would have no demeaning effect.
I see movies these days were women are called "dicks",don't be a dick", Maybe we should stop policing language. All it does is fan the flames and builds resentment.
Berkeley was the mother of the free speech movement, until Bill Maher started calling out Islam for what it is,misogynistic and homophobic,and making jokes about their women in bee keeper suits, then the hypocrisy showed up, and they cancelled Bills performance at Berkeley.
Free speech for me but not for thee.
Now on campus's Jew hatred is de jure and permissible, but "Islamophobia"never
There is no such ting as Islamophobia, just another case of social terrorism.
A phobia is an irrational fea. Disdain and dislike for Islam or any religion is not phobic. Especially the triumphalist, intolerant, misogynistic and homophobic religions.
I can’t find a credible source that says Sanders is against aid for Ukraine. He voted against the aid package because of Gaza. Sanders needs to clarify his stance on Ukraine unless he has and I can’t find it.
Gloria here has broached the subject correctly. Until such time that the DNC does an about face and fully embraces the platforms of Sander's 2016 election bid, throws in what Alexandria Ocasio Cortez brings to the table, aggressively declares a new day in American politics that address all the inequities with a vengeance, and promises to fix what they helped create, I cannot endorse the DNC. Right here and now, ALL IS LOST. If anyone thinks they can essentially go on as before with a tweak here and there, they are every but as delusional as MAGA voters.
We are going to endure (or not) the most forceful course "correction" by this new party that nearly if not ALL Republicans have capitulated to. Everything we have counted on as bedrock over the past 80 some years will be destroyed. Through capricious, callous, gleeful and vengeful actions, laws, and edicts, the USA will become a very different country. I see awareness of that in this forum, but not in the eyes of the Americans I encounter, do business with and interact with in any way, shape or form. Football and Disney go on as if nothing has changed. As it becomes evident to the majority, they will be looking for answers because it will be clear that THIS answer was alarmingly and stupidly wrong.
New leadership COULD come from the Democrats. But they haven't even denounced neo-liberalism yet. Again, until they do, and until they admit that Bernie was precisely right and that they have been unforgivably fraudulent for decades now, the people that voted for Trump will not be fooled again. Our government has been taken over by Plutocratic forces that are not unique to America, but that only America has the chance of fixing. So far, I say, they don't agree with me.
And I did not even mention The Heritage Foundation's contribution to this cluster f**K, with their intolerable theocratic agenda and their "Bannonish" glee with the installation of a Czar. Or the appalling success of Leo Leonard's mission of taking over the Supreme Court to make it little more than a green light for the raping of America as we have known it, along with the 90% of us.
The Heritage Foundation’s arrogant assumption that the plutocrats and Christian Nationalists know what’s best for the American people is galling.
I completely agree with you. Possibly everything needs to crash and burn before something better happens, I don't think for a minute if Harris would have won Dem's would have had a serious course correction, just some more status quo.
Peter. I agreed about Sanders, Until I learned that Bernie Sanders honeymooned in Moscow and that 10 day trip shaped his views about Russia, and it also explains his opposition to aiding Ukraine.
Got to keep the eye on the ball. It's all about the culture. Hate Trumped logic. 90% of the margin voted against their own economic and physical health.
I supported Bernie until he picked the wrong team re Cuba. So long Florida. Same went for BLM. Down here in the tropics the Dems went for Trump.
The way for a Dem to win is to be inclusive not exclusive.
Problem with Bernie is he is deep down a Marxist. I have antipathy towards Marx and Marxism, for one thing he is not a socialist, he was a proto libertarian,
but I have no truck with any ist or ism, be it secular or sectarian.
Ism's require unfettered devotion and loyalty, and are antithetical to critical thinking and individuality.
From what I have seen, in the eyes of a Marxist, a Marxist government can do no wrong, regardless of how antihuman they are, and in my opinion Putin the beneficiary of the residual Marxism of many on the left In the 1950s and 1960s the Brits called them Tankies (a wikipedia article on Tankie), we have a 2024 version of Tankie, in the form of Tulsi Gabbard, Jill Stein, et al.
While IMO, Trump voters are in fact, deplorable, white Christian nationalists racist, Not all are.
There is significant portion of the black and Hispanic population that are Trump humpers, despite the overt raacism of the GOP, they shunt it aside, ignore it, because there is something that trumps (no pun) race, and that is male dominance. The cry is Male power, not black power.
As regards inclusion. The racist doesn't like being told he or she is racist, the bigot doesn't like being told that he or she is a bigot.
They make pretense that they are not, that is how they survive.
Bill Maher had a TV show Politically Incorrect, very popular because people, don't like having their speech and bigotry throttled. He is still at it, only now he can safely vent on the last remaining minority that has no constituency. the Trans and is enjoined by gays like Andrew Sullivan,who angrily defends his gains but would gladly squash transwomen, probably because much of homophobia is misogynistic in origin. and he is proud of being a gay man, not a wanna be woman. (Iran has formalized this opinion as it forces gay men, if caught, into sexual reassignment surgery, which is a step up from ISIS which throws them off
roofs.)
I well imagine that there is a lot of homosexual activity in Islamic countries, for the same reason as prison "marriages" Imagine a Saudi Porn magazine with men beating off to women in abaya's.
Bigotry and prejudice exists and you can't legislate it away, trying to just exacerbates the problem, and you can''t stifle speech either, you just piss off the people whose speech is stifled.
What you can do is disarm the speech, by making it everyday. In America cunt is a female specific slur, and feminists get outraged, in England men and women are called cunt,it is like calling someone an arse.
Queer was once an epithet hurled at gay men, lesbo or dyke hulred at lesbians.
The LGBT community has owned the word queer,and it is no longer a slur.and dykes proudly call themselves dykes (as opposed to lipstick lesbians). Dykes on Bikes, a feature of every gay pride parade.
Blacks use the word niggah addressing each other and even to whites, We are long past Jim Crow and how the word was used to keep blacks down. Blacks will use the term "my niggah" affectionately. if it were common parlance it would have no demeaning effect.
I see movies these days were women are called "dicks",don't be a dick", Maybe we should stop policing language. All it does is fan the flames and builds resentment.
Berkeley was the mother of the free speech movement, until Bill Maher started calling out Islam for what it is,misogynistic and homophobic,and making jokes about their women in bee keeper suits, then the hypocrisy showed up, and they cancelled Bills performance at Berkeley.
Free speech for me but not for thee.
Now on campus's Jew hatred is de jure and permissible, but "Islamophobia"never
There is no such ting as Islamophobia, just another case of social terrorism.
A phobia is an irrational fea. Disdain and dislike for Islam or any religion is not phobic. Especially the triumphalist, intolerant, misogynistic and homophobic religions.
We’re not going to get anywhere until the Dem gerontocracy finally decides their tired of the party losing.
It's not us. It's them. But for psy ops we'd have won.
I was tired of it many years ago.
The Repubs had better tricksters than we did. If we had a Carl Rove, we'd have won in 1980, 1984. 2024.
This past year I wasted my time and effort chasing stuff like data mining. We could see the effects from psy ops. The bookies had it right.
*they’re*
If Kamala had to lose, then it was good that she lost big--hopefully to activate the Dem leaders into re-thinking how to win.
She didn’t lose “big” though. More people didn’t vote for trump than did.
I can’t find a credible source that says Sanders is against aid for Ukraine. He voted against the aid package because of Gaza. Sanders needs to clarify his stance on Ukraine unless he has and I can’t find it.
Gaza was a convenient excuse, it sat/sits well with many progressives,doesn't it.
I’m wondering about his position on Ukraine.
I already knew his views on Gaza.
Bernie is, after all, an experienced politician. As such he is certain to keep his views veiled.
The press is all too willing to cross examine any Dem or Independent.