He’s already using the language of narcissistic collapse, priming his cult followers to experience rage and act out revenge fantasies on his behalf in a clear call to stochastic terrorism...
Those of us who are anti-trump/white supremacy have seen through him all along. We are also confounded by Trump’s supporters who now sit in prison. And those who put Trump paraphernalia on their vehicles and deface the American flag by wearing it as a costume.
I agree with you 100% he should be taken from the public eye and placed in a secure place where he can’t threaten those who don’t agree with him. He is a known criminal and convicted sex offender. His passport should be revoked and no more pity rallies for him and his perceived victim hood. He is a poor excuse for a human being and he knows this, very painful to understand that about yourself. The thought of committing violence on his behalf is arousing to him and to his base. He is a very dangerous person to be allowed to move freely around our country.
"People need to wake up. They can't hear God's voice if they're asleep."
--Vernon Cooper, LUMBEE
Black Elk, a Sioux, talks about the hoop of many hoops. He says that above the people is a hoop, a conscience, the total belief of the people. If the hoop is sick, meaning dysfunctional, co-dependent, a lot of alcoholism, family abuse, violence, racism and sexual abuse, the people can get used to this and think this is normal. In other words, the people are asleep. If we have left the spiritual way of life, the people are asleep. If we are giving our power to another entity, the people are asleep. In most tribes, there are Coyote Clans. The job of the Coyote Clan people is to wake the people up. They need to become a nuisance and irritate the people. We must return to the spiritual walk.
Oh Great Spirit, keep me awake today. Let me hear the voices of our ancestors...let me hear the voices of the Grandfathers. Because everybody is doing it doesn't make things right. Let me hear the truth today and become a coyote for the people. Give me the courage to be willing to be different. Let me walk straight on the Red Road.
Many years ago, I too was a victim two violent attacks from someone I dated, a classic malignant narcissist. So not only did I identify with this post, its psychological description of Donald Trump is both logical and chilling. Thank you for another enlightening post.
The problem is Fox "News." If Fox spouted the same garbage, but with a liberal bias, the Republicans would have found a way to shut it down decades ago. Until we figure out how to get a handle on disinformation in a way that still honors the first amendment, we will continue our "Narcissistic Collapse." There is something deeply wrong (even evil) about Rupert Murdock and now his heirs. If we can't find a way handle this one man and his destructive empire, we are doomed.
Well damn. You made me open that dark closet of my mind that I manage to keep shut for days at a time, while soothing myself that the evil energy is diminishing, not gathering force. Every instinct I have tells me there is no choice but to face this thing, stand against it with calm & resolve, prepare for the worst while searching for signs of hope. Try not to over react as irrational forces explode all around us. Trust and help preserve the justice system we have - that it may one day be fortified & sharpened by this present madness. Hang together as a unified Coalition of the Sane with one purpose: preserving the democracy we have so we can get past this trouble and make the democracy we want.
I find this article frightening yet very helpful in mentally preparing for the near future. Thank you, Thom.
Rudolph Hess, the nazi war criminal, was held in Spandau prison in Germany as the only prisoner for 20 years until he died. There were 6 other nazi war criminals who were incarcerated along with Hess and had died, leaving Hess as the only prisoner for the last 20 years of his life. That is what needs to happen to trump when he is convicted and sentenced to prison. A decommissioned prison, or a building that is able to house the secret service agents who will double as "guards" . He should not have access to the internet, his phone, or anything else that allows him access to the outside world to continue to stir up even more trouble.
I think we face more of a journalistic collapse leading to a tribalism that precludes critical thinking than the narcissistic collapse you cite. Although there is something to that Thom, what with pundits and performative politicians seeking attention at all costs, even to the point of embracing a moral and spiritual collapse to prop up corrupted leaders in order to satisfy the echo chamber in the interest of maintaining sponsorships and revenue.
I don' think there is any question that Trump in his Narcissistic Collapse will try to take out anyone who opposed him , or who he believes opposed him.
He is truly losing his grip made more pronounced by adderral addiction.
Every thing Trump has done that is destructive , he will ‘up the ante on ‘at least verbally . But his most fervent followers will also be melting down .
Our system of governing has been corrupted so thoroughly by our politicians on both sides of the politics that we cannot have justice for wrong doing as they all over the last 40/50 years have closets full of corruption so they can't name the wrong doers now.......I am so sick of "the wheels of justice turns slowly"!!!! Criminals run free even after convicted. Why is Bannon still free after conviction? Why is Julian Assange(ms) still in prison deteriorating in confinement and no one in our government is willing to set him free for telling the truth. "it never can happen here" has been torn to shreds.
The narcissists support the institutions that have failed them. Capitalism (unlimited greed), religion and the family unit. They have supported their own demise. Now, they want to blame it on those who opposed unlimited greed, religions that rely on faith not facts, and the broken family unit where mental illness grows faster then a weed does after a rain. Instead of fixing the institutions, they fantasize about exterminating all of the people that do not meet their expectations. That way, they won't be proven to be losers. That is how a loser becomes a winner, in a narcissists mind. The narcissist mind, is so closed and self-centered, it can't be rehabilitated. What are we going to do with all these narcissists if Trump goes to jail? What are we going to do with all these narcissists if Trump does not go to jail? You just can't live in peace around a narcissist. They can turn on you at any moment. Americans need to keep the narcissist away from running the military and police forces.
Brilliant article, Thom. How often I, as a proponent of non- violence, have been taunted with,” Well, what would you have done about Hitler?” My reply has often been,” Hitler would have and could have been stopped earlier in his rise to power if people had acted on foresight.”
Your brilliant public recognition and discussion of the mental disease of one who seeks to lead our country by winning elections-as-popularity-contests( and in Trumps case, via an effort backed by actual geopolitical enemies waging war to destroy our country by this means)is key to stopping Trump. Since people are reluctant to point the finger at some and say “ You’re mentally ill”- especially when that person appears rich and successful, so people depend on the persons continued success- it is the law that is our only defense here. And of course the GOP, fueled by historic racism in its belief that only white men can rule our country and keep it intact, is going after the courts.
The solution, it does seem to me, must include a recognition of Trump’s personal mental sickness.(sudden thought: will he resort to an Insanity Defense?) A good leader could help summon the narcissistic followers to better goals. Though such a leader would have to survive the war plans of monied interests arrayed to smear them. As long as our country, our world & our inner compulsions as humans driven by survival-guilt-and-terror, demand more and more material wealth as personal protection against both inner and outer collapse, justice-oriented nonviolent activists will have to work hard and long and creatively (with scarcer resources and more crises) to fulfill the promise we inherited of self- government and equal value for all humans. And, it becomes increasingly clear, for all life on earth- but that’ll take a while too!! But it’s our task- our dues for life on earth.
My worst funeral attended EVER---the wife was leaving, the husband/father killed her and himself, and their daughter, with her 4 year old in tow, found them. He knew she would, because she just left to get and return with their grandchild . The daughter also got to decide the "arrangements". The wife's parents and siblings had to sit through a funeral for THEIR daughter/sister with the murderer on full display. That pastor had nothing; God is not in something like this.
You cannot walk through this life without some of these sick, sorry people turning your world up-side down. Work, home, school---we all have to deal with them. From what I have read, the only solution is to avoid contact whenever possible. I think that translates into not going out of your way to confront one of the cult members, no matter how much your middle finger is itching.
A sober response from us to convictions and jail-time for Trump would be best, but you know that's probably unlikely in the event it happens. Always be careful. Keep your game-face on. .
What a frightening and interesting time to be alive!!!
A synchronicity is in the works - the Lincoln Project released another of their short videos, and this one features Republicans admiring Hitler's quotes and behavior: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xai5yE4rr-c
I am finally feeling empowered and hopeful. I agree-incarcerate him for well documented crimes as soon as possible. We as a nation must not be victimized by this psychopathic narcissist and his grasping followers. We are so much better, so much stronger than this. This is the strongest and longest lasting democracy in the entire history of human kind. Of the people by the people and for the people! We Shall Overcome!!!
Thom - I thoroughly enjoy your newsletter and your thinking. I think that you are quite correct about Trump. A book that I would recommend to you is "People of the Lie: The Hope for Healing Human Evil" by M. Scott Peck. Dr. Peck, a psychiatrist, is no longer with us. But, his work has stood the test of time. He defines evil as "lazy narcissism." His book, in my view, describes Trump exactly. You might find Peck's discussion of exorcisms quite illuminating. I did. The "it" of evil, according to Peck, is centered on destruction. If you look at Trump and his behavior it is all about destruction, hate, grandiosity, and violence. He must be locked up. He will never change his behavior. Bill Schneider [bill@cdg-corp.com]
Will America Face “Narcissistic Collapse” as Trump Descends into Legal Hell?
Those of us who are anti-trump/white supremacy have seen through him all along. We are also confounded by Trump’s supporters who now sit in prison. And those who put Trump paraphernalia on their vehicles and deface the American flag by wearing it as a costume.
I agree with you 100% he should be taken from the public eye and placed in a secure place where he can’t threaten those who don’t agree with him. He is a known criminal and convicted sex offender. His passport should be revoked and no more pity rallies for him and his perceived victim hood. He is a poor excuse for a human being and he knows this, very painful to understand that about yourself. The thought of committing violence on his behalf is arousing to him and to his base. He is a very dangerous person to be allowed to move freely around our country.
Native American
"People need to wake up. They can't hear God's voice if they're asleep."
--Vernon Cooper, LUMBEE
Black Elk, a Sioux, talks about the hoop of many hoops. He says that above the people is a hoop, a conscience, the total belief of the people. If the hoop is sick, meaning dysfunctional, co-dependent, a lot of alcoholism, family abuse, violence, racism and sexual abuse, the people can get used to this and think this is normal. In other words, the people are asleep. If we have left the spiritual way of life, the people are asleep. If we are giving our power to another entity, the people are asleep. In most tribes, there are Coyote Clans. The job of the Coyote Clan people is to wake the people up. They need to become a nuisance and irritate the people. We must return to the spiritual walk.
Oh Great Spirit, keep me awake today. Let me hear the voices of our ancestors...let me hear the voices of the Grandfathers. Because everybody is doing it doesn't make things right. Let me hear the truth today and become a coyote for the people. Give me the courage to be willing to be different. Let me walk straight on the Red Road.
Many years ago, I too was a victim two violent attacks from someone I dated, a classic malignant narcissist. So not only did I identify with this post, its psychological description of Donald Trump is both logical and chilling. Thank you for another enlightening post.
Thank you, Thom, for another great essay!
The problem is Fox "News." If Fox spouted the same garbage, but with a liberal bias, the Republicans would have found a way to shut it down decades ago. Until we figure out how to get a handle on disinformation in a way that still honors the first amendment, we will continue our "Narcissistic Collapse." There is something deeply wrong (even evil) about Rupert Murdock and now his heirs. If we can't find a way handle this one man and his destructive empire, we are doomed.
Well damn. You made me open that dark closet of my mind that I manage to keep shut for days at a time, while soothing myself that the evil energy is diminishing, not gathering force. Every instinct I have tells me there is no choice but to face this thing, stand against it with calm & resolve, prepare for the worst while searching for signs of hope. Try not to over react as irrational forces explode all around us. Trust and help preserve the justice system we have - that it may one day be fortified & sharpened by this present madness. Hang together as a unified Coalition of the Sane with one purpose: preserving the democracy we have so we can get past this trouble and make the democracy we want.
I find this article frightening yet very helpful in mentally preparing for the near future. Thank you, Thom.
Rudolph Hess, the nazi war criminal, was held in Spandau prison in Germany as the only prisoner for 20 years until he died. There were 6 other nazi war criminals who were incarcerated along with Hess and had died, leaving Hess as the only prisoner for the last 20 years of his life. That is what needs to happen to trump when he is convicted and sentenced to prison. A decommissioned prison, or a building that is able to house the secret service agents who will double as "guards" . He should not have access to the internet, his phone, or anything else that allows him access to the outside world to continue to stir up even more trouble.
I think we face more of a journalistic collapse leading to a tribalism that precludes critical thinking than the narcissistic collapse you cite. Although there is something to that Thom, what with pundits and performative politicians seeking attention at all costs, even to the point of embracing a moral and spiritual collapse to prop up corrupted leaders in order to satisfy the echo chamber in the interest of maintaining sponsorships and revenue.
I don' think there is any question that Trump in his Narcissistic Collapse will try to take out anyone who opposed him , or who he believes opposed him.
He is truly losing his grip made more pronounced by adderral addiction.
Every thing Trump has done that is destructive , he will ‘up the ante on ‘at least verbally . But his most fervent followers will also be melting down .
Anyone not holding his hand will be at risk.
Our system of governing has been corrupted so thoroughly by our politicians on both sides of the politics that we cannot have justice for wrong doing as they all over the last 40/50 years have closets full of corruption so they can't name the wrong doers now.......I am so sick of "the wheels of justice turns slowly"!!!! Criminals run free even after convicted. Why is Bannon still free after conviction? Why is Julian Assange(ms) still in prison deteriorating in confinement and no one in our government is willing to set him free for telling the truth. "it never can happen here" has been torn to shreds.
The narcissists support the institutions that have failed them. Capitalism (unlimited greed), religion and the family unit. They have supported their own demise. Now, they want to blame it on those who opposed unlimited greed, religions that rely on faith not facts, and the broken family unit where mental illness grows faster then a weed does after a rain. Instead of fixing the institutions, they fantasize about exterminating all of the people that do not meet their expectations. That way, they won't be proven to be losers. That is how a loser becomes a winner, in a narcissists mind. The narcissist mind, is so closed and self-centered, it can't be rehabilitated. What are we going to do with all these narcissists if Trump goes to jail? What are we going to do with all these narcissists if Trump does not go to jail? You just can't live in peace around a narcissist. They can turn on you at any moment. Americans need to keep the narcissist away from running the military and police forces.
Brilliant article, Thom. How often I, as a proponent of non- violence, have been taunted with,” Well, what would you have done about Hitler?” My reply has often been,” Hitler would have and could have been stopped earlier in his rise to power if people had acted on foresight.”
Your brilliant public recognition and discussion of the mental disease of one who seeks to lead our country by winning elections-as-popularity-contests( and in Trumps case, via an effort backed by actual geopolitical enemies waging war to destroy our country by this means)is key to stopping Trump. Since people are reluctant to point the finger at some and say “ You’re mentally ill”- especially when that person appears rich and successful, so people depend on the persons continued success- it is the law that is our only defense here. And of course the GOP, fueled by historic racism in its belief that only white men can rule our country and keep it intact, is going after the courts.
The solution, it does seem to me, must include a recognition of Trump’s personal mental sickness.(sudden thought: will he resort to an Insanity Defense?) A good leader could help summon the narcissistic followers to better goals. Though such a leader would have to survive the war plans of monied interests arrayed to smear them. As long as our country, our world & our inner compulsions as humans driven by survival-guilt-and-terror, demand more and more material wealth as personal protection against both inner and outer collapse, justice-oriented nonviolent activists will have to work hard and long and creatively (with scarcer resources and more crises) to fulfill the promise we inherited of self- government and equal value for all humans. And, it becomes increasingly clear, for all life on earth- but that’ll take a while too!! But it’s our task- our dues for life on earth.
Exactly!
My worst funeral attended EVER---the wife was leaving, the husband/father killed her and himself, and their daughter, with her 4 year old in tow, found them. He knew she would, because she just left to get and return with their grandchild . The daughter also got to decide the "arrangements". The wife's parents and siblings had to sit through a funeral for THEIR daughter/sister with the murderer on full display. That pastor had nothing; God is not in something like this.
You cannot walk through this life without some of these sick, sorry people turning your world up-side down. Work, home, school---we all have to deal with them. From what I have read, the only solution is to avoid contact whenever possible. I think that translates into not going out of your way to confront one of the cult members, no matter how much your middle finger is itching.
A sober response from us to convictions and jail-time for Trump would be best, but you know that's probably unlikely in the event it happens. Always be careful. Keep your game-face on. .
What a frightening and interesting time to be alive!!!
A synchronicity is in the works - the Lincoln Project released another of their short videos, and this one features Republicans admiring Hitler's quotes and behavior: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xai5yE4rr-c
We know "Who let the dogs out!"
I am finally feeling empowered and hopeful. I agree-incarcerate him for well documented crimes as soon as possible. We as a nation must not be victimized by this psychopathic narcissist and his grasping followers. We are so much better, so much stronger than this. This is the strongest and longest lasting democracy in the entire history of human kind. Of the people by the people and for the people! We Shall Overcome!!!
Thom - I thoroughly enjoy your newsletter and your thinking. I think that you are quite correct about Trump. A book that I would recommend to you is "People of the Lie: The Hope for Healing Human Evil" by M. Scott Peck. Dr. Peck, a psychiatrist, is no longer with us. But, his work has stood the test of time. He defines evil as "lazy narcissism." His book, in my view, describes Trump exactly. You might find Peck's discussion of exorcisms quite illuminating. I did. The "it" of evil, according to Peck, is centered on destruction. If you look at Trump and his behavior it is all about destruction, hate, grandiosity, and violence. He must be locked up. He will never change his behavior. Bill Schneider [bill@cdg-corp.com]