There has to be a way to stop the presidency of trump. Abe Lincoln halted the unruly confederates with suspending habeas corpus. We got a civil war, but that would be better than a fascist USA. Biden must act. No question.
There has to be a way to stop the presidency of trump. Abe Lincoln halted the unruly confederates with suspending habeas corpus. We got a civil war, but that would be better than a fascist USA. Biden must act. No question.
Thom cited and interviewed Stephen Spoonamore, who was CEO or CTO at seven high technology firms including two that specialized in hacking and counter-hacking operations. He wrote a memo alleging that to "a near certainty" the results have been changed at a scale which reversed the election. He recommends a hand recount to most likely require reversal. He cites to a letter from 7 experts in computer science who go into detail. https://freespeechforpeople.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/letter-to-vp-harris-111324.pdf
I don't think Spoonamore knows jack about law. Many of the acts alleged may be crimes -- either state and/or federal.
Every other state has similar provisions. AZ and NV apparently aberrant...that may be enough. But note that Greg Palast also says 2.7 million votes are missing.
The requirements for TROs are usually iminent and imediate threats..
We had Consitutional crises before...Bush v Gore. A civil war.
I watch -- not really...time is fleeting. MSNBC has NYT and WAPO editors and columnists every day. Are not called out.
Trump spread the big lie. His Jan 6 message was "stop the steal" This time, he apparently, with Musk's and Russkie help, performed a steal.
The most inflential talking head on MSNBC is Diaz Balart. Has one brother who is a MAGAT member of Congress -- Mario. Older Brother Lincoln was also in Congress -- in essence was Republican kingmaker in Florida. Also on Telemundo, which is now the Spanish language Fox.
Daniel, I had no idea. CNN is ruled by right wing corporate money. O'Donnell and Maddow are bucking the tide, if you watch them regularly. I never would have guessed that those who wield the power are who you mentioned.
Write to the WH. There needs to be a groundswell of support for a simple hand count. It could save our democracy. We have to be active participants. We can't retreat and wait for someone else to do it.
Because Kamala couldn't wait to concede, 5 hrs after the last vote was cast she conceded while votes were being counted, she sanctified the election by getting on the phone to Trump, she couldn't wait to concede and sold out every person who voted for and donated to her.
Daniel, I did not know that Hartmann interviewed Stephen Spoonamore. However my question revolves around the elephant in the room, a hacked election. My hair is on fire, with each revelation Hartmann describes. It seems to me if he agrees with Spoonamore, why hasn't he made it a central focus of the letter. I wrote to the WH. Everyone should be doing that. Biden/Harris are also unusually silent on the issue.
Daniel, why hasn't Hartmann, Reich and HCR made this a central issue of their newsletter? Am I missing something? Spoonamore and Professor Haldemann have voiced the vulnerabilities of these machines. Spoonamore goes so far as to name the time Musk used Starlink to alter the results of the 2024 election. Biden/Harris have shown no interest so far in addressing this. https://tinfoilmatt.substack.com/p/security-expert-says-vote-tabulators-hacked
MSNBC has not reported on stuff like this....the real story since 2016 has been Russians in our youtrow. Mueller convicted national security advisor Michael Flynn and the chair of the Trump presidential campaign, Paul Manafort. The investigation resulted in charges against 34 individuals and 3 companies, 8 guilty pleas, and a conviction at trial.
Mueller did not reach a conclusion about possible obstruction of justice by Trump, citing a Justice Department guideline that prohibits the federal indictment of a sitting president. That pisses me off. It's uo to a jury to determine whether there was complicity. I thought that Mueller was farblonget and Weissman, who MSNBC has elevated to expert, should, at least have preserved Trump's testimony,
Even Midastouch has failed to investigate.
I'm sure that there are experts who can state, to a reasobable degree of probability, whether the Russian threats, intimmidation, proopaganda had an effect. If so, to what extent?
Are willing idiots complicit?
MSNBC should be reporting in the blue wall and other states. All I hear is Trump. In Pa, there are dozens of voting lawsuits. What do local DAs say?
Daniel, I agree. However, Barr was a major factor in distorting Mueller's testimony. When Mueller testified, he did not have the verve, stamina etc. He looked like an old man, whose time had passed. I joined Bluesky. I have not heard from them, but they are another avenue to get the message out. I also think if people like you contacted O'Donnell about the hacked election, you might be more successful than me in getting a response.
There is, SCOTUS gave Biden unlimited power so long as he can claim he is acting in his capacity as President.
If it were Trump, he would precipitate a crisis, cause an uproar, demonstrations, which would be used by agents provocateur to cause violence and property damage, which would then be a pretext for declaring a national emergency, and martial law, and suspend habeas corpus and call out the military to use against the people.
In fact that is exactly what Trump will do, to shred the constitution. The laws are there, all he has to do use them.
An order to Seal -Team 6 to take out those who are destroying our country would certainly be an action of official presidential business and therefore making the president immune from any legal action.
There has to be a way to stop the presidency of trump. Abe Lincoln halted the unruly confederates with suspending habeas corpus. We got a civil war, but that would be better than a fascist USA. Biden must act. No question.
Thom cited and interviewed Stephen Spoonamore, who was CEO or CTO at seven high technology firms including two that specialized in hacking and counter-hacking operations. He wrote a memo alleging that to "a near certainty" the results have been changed at a scale which reversed the election. He recommends a hand recount to most likely require reversal. He cites to a letter from 7 experts in computer science who go into detail. https://freespeechforpeople.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/letter-to-vp-harris-111324.pdf
I don't think Spoonamore knows jack about law. Many of the acts alleged may be crimes -- either state and/or federal.
Proof of crime might trigger it, depending on the facts and statute. Feds: https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you/scams-and-safety/common-frauds-and-scams/election-crimes-and-security
Pa. https://govt.westlaw.com/pac/Document/NE9692E70343011DA8A989F4EECDB8638?originationContext=document&transitionType=StatuteNavigator&needToInjectTerms=False&viewType=FullText&ppcid=4373140374c44d6283d5fa30147210e8&contextData=%28sc.Default%29
https://whyy.org/articles/lancaster-county-voter-registration-fraud-investigation-elections-2024/
Every other state has similar provisions. AZ and NV apparently aberrant...that may be enough. But note that Greg Palast also says 2.7 million votes are missing.
The requirements for TROs are usually iminent and imediate threats..
We had Consitutional crises before...Bush v Gore. A civil war.
YES. Why hasn't this been done? Even Musk said that hacking the vote would be "easy." Trump always cheats. So: why hasn't the recount begun?
Rowland, I've written to the White House to demand a hand count of the ballots.
Need AGs in all jurisdictions involved. As I say, supra, may be crimes.......
Daniel, Nicole Wallace said that she thought Biden/Harris are engaged in doing that.
I watch -- not really...time is fleeting. MSNBC has NYT and WAPO editors and columnists every day. Are not called out.
Trump spread the big lie. His Jan 6 message was "stop the steal" This time, he apparently, with Musk's and Russkie help, performed a steal.
The most inflential talking head on MSNBC is Diaz Balart. Has one brother who is a MAGAT member of Congress -- Mario. Older Brother Lincoln was also in Congress -- in essence was Republican kingmaker in Florida. Also on Telemundo, which is now the Spanish language Fox.
Daniel, I had no idea. CNN is ruled by right wing corporate money. O'Donnell and Maddow are bucking the tide, if you watch them regularly. I never would have guessed that those who wield the power are who you mentioned.
Write to the WH. There needs to be a groundswell of support for a simple hand count. It could save our democracy. We have to be active participants. We can't retreat and wait for someone else to do it.
Because Kamala couldn't wait to concede, 5 hrs after the last vote was cast she conceded while votes were being counted, she sanctified the election by getting on the phone to Trump, she couldn't wait to concede and sold out every person who voted for and donated to her.
Daniel, I did not know that Hartmann interviewed Stephen Spoonamore. However my question revolves around the elephant in the room, a hacked election. My hair is on fire, with each revelation Hartmann describes. It seems to me if he agrees with Spoonamore, why hasn't he made it a central focus of the letter. I wrote to the WH. Everyone should be doing that. Biden/Harris are also unusually silent on the issue.
Would stealth be advisable? Of course, we all know how easy it is to keep a secret 🤣
Gally, you're asking a question Daniel is more capable of answering.
Daniel, why hasn't Hartmann, Reich and HCR made this a central issue of their newsletter? Am I missing something? Spoonamore and Professor Haldemann have voiced the vulnerabilities of these machines. Spoonamore goes so far as to name the time Musk used Starlink to alter the results of the 2024 election. Biden/Harris have shown no interest so far in addressing this. https://tinfoilmatt.substack.com/p/security-expert-says-vote-tabulators-hacked
Got me. How about MSM, NYT, Wapo, et cet.
Call Musk to the stand....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV58O0USCaY
NYT and MSM are lost causes. However, Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell are gifts that keep on giving.
It's worth contacting them.
MSNBC has not reported on stuff like this....the real story since 2016 has been Russians in our youtrow. Mueller convicted national security advisor Michael Flynn and the chair of the Trump presidential campaign, Paul Manafort. The investigation resulted in charges against 34 individuals and 3 companies, 8 guilty pleas, and a conviction at trial.
Mueller did not reach a conclusion about possible obstruction of justice by Trump, citing a Justice Department guideline that prohibits the federal indictment of a sitting president. That pisses me off. It's uo to a jury to determine whether there was complicity. I thought that Mueller was farblonget and Weissman, who MSNBC has elevated to expert, should, at least have preserved Trump's testimony,
Even Midastouch has failed to investigate.
I'm sure that there are experts who can state, to a reasobable degree of probability, whether the Russian threats, intimmidation, proopaganda had an effect. If so, to what extent?
Are willing idiots complicit?
MSNBC should be reporting in the blue wall and other states. All I hear is Trump. In Pa, there are dozens of voting lawsuits. What do local DAs say?
Daniel, I agree. However, Barr was a major factor in distorting Mueller's testimony. When Mueller testified, he did not have the verve, stamina etc. He looked like an old man, whose time had passed. I joined Bluesky. I have not heard from them, but they are another avenue to get the message out. I also think if people like you contacted O'Donnell about the hacked election, you might be more successful than me in getting a response.
People in the swing states must contact their elected representatives.
The best I can do is comment.
I am not a public figure. If I lived in a blue state my reps might respond, but I live in Florida. I am banned from X, Facebook.
I get some letters to the editors published. I do not have the gravitas to speak directly to any of these people.
Daniel, I have followed you on three newsletters. IMO, you undermine your influence. However, I'm sure you're correct about the swing states.
There is, SCOTUS gave Biden unlimited power so long as he can claim he is acting in his capacity as President.
If it were Trump, he would precipitate a crisis, cause an uproar, demonstrations, which would be used by agents provocateur to cause violence and property damage, which would then be a pretext for declaring a national emergency, and martial law, and suspend habeas corpus and call out the military to use against the people.
In fact that is exactly what Trump will do, to shred the constitution. The laws are there, all he has to do use them.
An order to Seal -Team 6 to take out those who are destroying our country would certainly be an action of official presidential business and therefore making the president immune from any legal action.