It seems that preaching to the choir is creating an echo but not getting the message to many others. We are stewing in our own juices. Who are the "We" which will impact the outside world? Have "we" allowed the movers and shakers and power brokers to snow and anesthetize the masses and given them license to broadcast their propaganda fre…
It seems that preaching to the choir is creating an echo but not getting the message to many others. We are stewing in our own juices. Who are the "We" which will impact the outside world? Have "we" allowed the movers and shakers and power brokers to snow and anesthetize the masses and given them license to broadcast their propaganda freely far and wide while "we" are immobilized and silenced? How much noise can one person make while being muffled and muzzled? When we let one significant untruth go unnoticed, others spring up and take over like weeds in the field. Hope that there is some limit to the tolerance of the people and that reality will transcend the self-destructiveness of the fascists and fanatics..
It is all about the money, follow the money. Money is power, power to keep and get more money. Only a few people care about the future, and survival of the species, much less their own descendants.
California is following Exxon Mobil, Shell, BP, ConocoPhillips, and Chevron, as well as the domestic oil industry's biggest lobby, the American Petroleum Institute. It demands the companies help fund recovery efforts related to California's extreme weather events, from rising sea levels to drought and wildfires, that have been supercharged by human-caused climate change.
"Oil and gas companies have privately known the truth for decades — that the burning of fossil fuels leads to climate change — but have fed us lies and mistruths to further their record-breaking profits at the expense of our environment. Enough is enough," said Rob Bonta, California's attorney general.
Earth's atmosphere now has 416 parts of Carbon Dioxide for every million parts of air. What does this number mean? Earth's global average temperature is 2.1℉ hotter than it was in 1880
They can't help themselves, The employees, board, shareholders and exec's are on a treadmill, if they stop they get thrown off, and lose their income and status.
Despite our mumblings and grumblings, people live for today and the hell with the morrow.
Lenin knew human nature when he postulated the capitalist, hanging and rope meme. Only it is just not the capitalists it is human nature.
If there was an actually successful program to convert to clean energy, what do you think the denizens of Kentucky, WVA, Texas and Oklahoma would do, in the face of losing their jobs? Celebrate?
It's also an economic and national security issue. Saudi Arabia, the same countr that Thom reports has an“Oil Demand Sustainability Programme (ODSP),” reaching out to poor countries, particularly in Africa, to encourage them to expand their use of oil to power transportation, housing, and electricity, has been undermining our economy and national security since 1973. Owns our largest oil refineries. Controls domestic oil companies like Exxon.
Trump, Saudi/Russia manipulated OPEC to limit production and caused the inflation, funded the war in Ukraine, etc.
We should sue for price fixing and price gouging to recoup our losses. They owe us trillions.
We are not dependent on Saudi or Arabian oil, We export more than we produce. So the question is why are we kissing ass with MSB and the supporters of Terror, like the UAE and Qatar, Why do we spend our money, protecting the Arabian sea. Not for our benefit, not really.
The question was rhetorical, Exxon, BP, Shell etc are protecting their profits, because the profitability of those companies depends on international oil trade.. As I said we are oil independent, and the petroleum cabal, exports oil for profit, forcing us to make up the difference by importing oil, and that produces insane profits for domestic refineries. which are owned by Texaco, and Exxon and other petroleum countries.
During WWII my fathers family moved to Pt Neches Texas to work in the refineries being built to support the war. My mother too as Dad was a Marine in the Pacific.
We lived in company housing, still being built, just outside the gates of Texaco, my mother got a job with Gulf oil. My Dad's family stayed, Dad came home and Mom followed. Dad's youngest brother died in 1964 from Hodgkins disease, he was a refinery field worker and constantly exposed to benzine.
Everyone one of his nephews and nieces children that stayed, died of cancer, if not then their offspring.. they would have fared no better if they stayed in Crossett,AR Cancer Capital of America, now owned by the Koch's Georgia Pacific Company
We had a terrific coal degasification program that was killed by the Reagan administration.
I was somewhat involved in DOL/OSHA/MSHA rulemaking. If you stick a pipe in a mine, methane can be titrated. No need for miners. No shipping coal. That methane can be used on site to turn turbines to make electricity. Any pollution can be captured and buried. DOE has been following this for years. Had I been Manchin, on a governmental and personal level I would have been all over it, but he resisted. Also did not take advantage of the Marcellus shale that underlies most of the state as he views natural gas as the natural enemy of coal.
Another variation on that theme is turning pollution into energy.
I heard cases in Appalachia. Places like Grundy, VA, Pikeville, KY, and Lewisburg WVA, turned the economy through investments in education - medical schools in Pikeville and Lewisburg and Appalachian School of Law in Grundy. Tens of thousands of jobs. Became regional medical centers. Pikeville is also one of the engineering wonders of the world.
As regards liquification of coal. Back in the 70's and early 80's there was a pilot facility set up in North Ft Lewis, WA. It is separated from the main base by a road and RR tracks.
Fully operational and successful, it proved the viability, run by Pittsburg Minining and Manufacturing through a subsidiary.
And you are correct no sooner did Reagan settled in did his government cancel the program. I've seen their shallow excuses, all poppy cock propaganda and lies, like everything else that he Plutocrats defecate.
It seems that preaching to the choir is creating an echo but not getting the message to many others. We are stewing in our own juices. Who are the "We" which will impact the outside world? Have "we" allowed the movers and shakers and power brokers to snow and anesthetize the masses and given them license to broadcast their propaganda freely far and wide while "we" are immobilized and silenced? How much noise can one person make while being muffled and muzzled? When we let one significant untruth go unnoticed, others spring up and take over like weeds in the field. Hope that there is some limit to the tolerance of the people and that reality will transcend the self-destructiveness of the fascists and fanatics..
It is all about the money, follow the money. Money is power, power to keep and get more money. Only a few people care about the future, and survival of the species, much less their own descendants.
California is following Exxon Mobil, Shell, BP, ConocoPhillips, and Chevron, as well as the domestic oil industry's biggest lobby, the American Petroleum Institute. It demands the companies help fund recovery efforts related to California's extreme weather events, from rising sea levels to drought and wildfires, that have been supercharged by human-caused climate change.
"Oil and gas companies have privately known the truth for decades — that the burning of fossil fuels leads to climate change — but have fed us lies and mistruths to further their record-breaking profits at the expense of our environment. Enough is enough," said Rob Bonta, California's attorney general.
I hope California succeeds I believe it was Exxon in 1974 that commissioned the study https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
Earth's atmosphere now has 416 parts of Carbon Dioxide for every million parts of air. What does this number mean? Earth's global average temperature is 2.1℉ hotter than it was in 1880
They can't help themselves, The employees, board, shareholders and exec's are on a treadmill, if they stop they get thrown off, and lose their income and status.
Despite our mumblings and grumblings, people live for today and the hell with the morrow.
Lenin knew human nature when he postulated the capitalist, hanging and rope meme. Only it is just not the capitalists it is human nature.
If there was an actually successful program to convert to clean energy, what do you think the denizens of Kentucky, WVA, Texas and Oklahoma would do, in the face of losing their jobs? Celebrate?
It's also an economic and national security issue. Saudi Arabia, the same countr that Thom reports has an“Oil Demand Sustainability Programme (ODSP),” reaching out to poor countries, particularly in Africa, to encourage them to expand their use of oil to power transportation, housing, and electricity, has been undermining our economy and national security since 1973. Owns our largest oil refineries. Controls domestic oil companies like Exxon.
Trump, Saudi/Russia manipulated OPEC to limit production and caused the inflation, funded the war in Ukraine, etc.
We should sue for price fixing and price gouging to recoup our losses. They owe us trillions.
We are not dependent on Saudi or Arabian oil, We export more than we produce. So the question is why are we kissing ass with MSB and the supporters of Terror, like the UAE and Qatar, Why do we spend our money, protecting the Arabian sea. Not for our benefit, not really.
The question was rhetorical, Exxon, BP, Shell etc are protecting their profits, because the profitability of those companies depends on international oil trade.. As I said we are oil independent, and the petroleum cabal, exports oil for profit, forcing us to make up the difference by importing oil, and that produces insane profits for domestic refineries. which are owned by Texaco, and Exxon and other petroleum countries.
During WWII my fathers family moved to Pt Neches Texas to work in the refineries being built to support the war. My mother too as Dad was a Marine in the Pacific.
We lived in company housing, still being built, just outside the gates of Texaco, my mother got a job with Gulf oil. My Dad's family stayed, Dad came home and Mom followed. Dad's youngest brother died in 1964 from Hodgkins disease, he was a refinery field worker and constantly exposed to benzine.
Everyone one of his nephews and nieces children that stayed, died of cancer, if not then their offspring.. they would have fared no better if they stayed in Crossett,AR Cancer Capital of America, now owned by the Koch's Georgia Pacific Company
Exxon, BP, Shell etc are protecting their profits through price fixing by OPEC. Exxon is controlled by Saudi.
"If there was an actually successful program to convert to clean energy, what do you think the denizens of Kentucky, WVA, Texas and Oklahoma would do, in the face of losing their jobs? Celebrate?" Ongoing. https://clean-energy.thebusinessdownload.com/inflation-reduction-act-charges-up-battery-belt-with-factories/?fbclid=IwAR34ejWut64gEcoqf_wOzjOcab9BnjJ7D3hK6ZKCw87Zdw5nnZ2gjAi9ZL0
We had a terrific coal degasification program that was killed by the Reagan administration.
I was somewhat involved in DOL/OSHA/MSHA rulemaking. If you stick a pipe in a mine, methane can be titrated. No need for miners. No shipping coal. That methane can be used on site to turn turbines to make electricity. Any pollution can be captured and buried. DOE has been following this for years. Had I been Manchin, on a governmental and personal level I would have been all over it, but he resisted. Also did not take advantage of the Marcellus shale that underlies most of the state as he views natural gas as the natural enemy of coal.
Another variation on that theme is turning pollution into energy.
I heard cases in Appalachia. Places like Grundy, VA, Pikeville, KY, and Lewisburg WVA, turned the economy through investments in education - medical schools in Pikeville and Lewisburg and Appalachian School of Law in Grundy. Tens of thousands of jobs. Became regional medical centers. Pikeville is also one of the engineering wonders of the world.
Great response Daniel.
As regards liquification of coal. Back in the 70's and early 80's there was a pilot facility set up in North Ft Lewis, WA. It is separated from the main base by a road and RR tracks.
Fully operational and successful, it proved the viability, run by Pittsburg Minining and Manufacturing through a subsidiary.
And you are correct no sooner did Reagan settled in did his government cancel the program. I've seen their shallow excuses, all poppy cock propaganda and lies, like everything else that he Plutocrats defecate.
True.
COP28 is a suckers game. Biden, Putin and Xi are not attending and the Arabs are using it to sell African countries on the oil addiction
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