Rhetoric does not direct human behavior, emotion does, particularly those triggered by survival threat(s). Interesting that even the brilliant investigative journalism of our dear Thom is emotion driven--anger is the great motivator, driven by dopamine in the limbic survival brain, ironically the same module in our central nervous system…
Rhetoric does not direct human behavior, emotion does, particularly those triggered by survival threat(s). Interesting that even the brilliant investigative journalism of our dear Thom is emotion driven--anger is the great motivator, driven by dopamine in the limbic survival brain, ironically the same module in our central nervous system that Our Mad King (wannabe) Donald so masterfully manipulates. Any thought we are able to recall is only retrievable due to its emotional value, including all rhetoric. So, Fascism takes over a nation first on an emotional level, as rage, and the symbols (words) we attach to it are only important in that they allow us to re-experience the emotion, and dopamine/adrenalin are very pleasurable and addicting. We have allowed ourselves to become a nation of dopamine addicts, our own internal cocaine, as we engage in one violent thought/behavior (including vicarious) after another. Our real problems are human overpopulation, climate collapse, and environmental destruction. All the rest are just the inevitable results.
You are talking about how our biological inclinations function, Greeley .. Yes, that is the trend in our bodies.
But, we CAN choose to moderate our processes, to a degree, as well. And we’d damned well better, because the pace of the evolution of those instincts falls far short as the world moves forward quickly and evolution crawls …
We WILL be motivated by emotion. We need to be motivated to also stop and think and choose action based on more than our first impulse.
It's not us, it's THEM. Repeating from yesterday, there is a valid argument that it's not Trump as much as it's his willing co-dependent minions. Under Jungian theory racism is endemic, not taught.
Collective racial subconscious? The archetypal "Hero with a Thousand Faces." Jung, who btw was "Aryan" himself, analyzed Hitler as a "medicine man" and voice of a German collective unconscious. First, he said two types of strong men existed in primitive society: the chief who was physically powerful and the medicine man who was strong not in himself but by the power people projected onto him.
Unfortunately the media feeds this theory. Trump may be a demagogue, and he may have a limited sense of reality, but as ridiculous his appearance and demeanor is, most of his cult members identify with him.
I think speaking those truths about Trump is beneficial. Speaking about a LOT of people who “love” him viscerally is true, too.
But I think reducing nearly all people to automatons manipulated so completely by someone who might understand our unconscious better than we understand our own … that’s a bit too woo-woo for me. I’m not convinced Jung knew as much as he wished he did, or his followers still think he did. We can talk about how our brains work and what ideas swirl around in there at any particular time … but Jung had delusions about some of that, on a par with magic men in the sky.
YES, too many of us are susceptible to being swayed by cult leaders — and there’s a bandwagon effect about being a crowd that is “swayed” by a carnival barker like Don. Once we’re part of a cult, there is an endorphin hit to being in the group. It iS damned tough to break through the fog to an actual thinking person inside the cult follower —
But we’re not all in the Trump cult. Even all the people voting for him are not doing it for the cult, but for venal autocratic reasons. OR, they are truly just not well informed and can have their minds changed, if we try.
We have to prevail in keeping the fascists out of our government this coming year. How about we do it by convincing people to vote for Joe. YES, understanding why SOME people lionize Mr. Orange does matter, but it is not the Be All and End All.
Let’s get people to vote for Joe. Mostly, by talking about all the good reasons they should …
I think the rest of this woo-woo is too often a distraction..
People like you -- a media pro -- are needed at Field Team 6, which targets unregistered people who trend Democratic. A completely different target market.
I have personally -- up close and personal -- seen MAGATS have an epiphany. I'm in discussion groups.
I have checked out the site, Daniel, and expect to do some work with them. Need a little more time and info. In figure I’ll do some mailing, writing, talking - whatever I can do that does not make things worse…
Rhetoric does not direct human behavior, emotion does, particularly those triggered by survival threat(s). Interesting that even the brilliant investigative journalism of our dear Thom is emotion driven--anger is the great motivator, driven by dopamine in the limbic survival brain, ironically the same module in our central nervous system that Our Mad King (wannabe) Donald so masterfully manipulates. Any thought we are able to recall is only retrievable due to its emotional value, including all rhetoric. So, Fascism takes over a nation first on an emotional level, as rage, and the symbols (words) we attach to it are only important in that they allow us to re-experience the emotion, and dopamine/adrenalin are very pleasurable and addicting. We have allowed ourselves to become a nation of dopamine addicts, our own internal cocaine, as we engage in one violent thought/behavior (including vicarious) after another. Our real problems are human overpopulation, climate collapse, and environmental destruction. All the rest are just the inevitable results.
You are talking about how our biological inclinations function, Greeley .. Yes, that is the trend in our bodies.
But, we CAN choose to moderate our processes, to a degree, as well. And we’d damned well better, because the pace of the evolution of those instincts falls far short as the world moves forward quickly and evolution crawls …
We WILL be motivated by emotion. We need to be motivated to also stop and think and choose action based on more than our first impulse.
Not all of us will be so motivated.
Let some of us be, eh?
Biology is not ONLY driven by instinct …
It's not us, it's THEM. Repeating from yesterday, there is a valid argument that it's not Trump as much as it's his willing co-dependent minions. Under Jungian theory racism is endemic, not taught.
Collective racial subconscious? The archetypal "Hero with a Thousand Faces." Jung, who btw was "Aryan" himself, analyzed Hitler as a "medicine man" and voice of a German collective unconscious. First, he said two types of strong men existed in primitive society: the chief who was physically powerful and the medicine man who was strong not in himself but by the power people projected onto him.
Unfortunately the media feeds this theory. Trump may be a demagogue, and he may have a limited sense of reality, but as ridiculous his appearance and demeanor is, most of his cult members identify with him.
Democrats once played that too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHwYvHM0dMY
@Dr. Greely. You are right. Mostly visceral. That's why "Trump hates dogs" and Trump stole from kids with cancer" makes MAGATS choke on their beer.
I think speaking those truths about Trump is beneficial. Speaking about a LOT of people who “love” him viscerally is true, too.
But I think reducing nearly all people to automatons manipulated so completely by someone who might understand our unconscious better than we understand our own … that’s a bit too woo-woo for me. I’m not convinced Jung knew as much as he wished he did, or his followers still think he did. We can talk about how our brains work and what ideas swirl around in there at any particular time … but Jung had delusions about some of that, on a par with magic men in the sky.
YES, too many of us are susceptible to being swayed by cult leaders — and there’s a bandwagon effect about being a crowd that is “swayed” by a carnival barker like Don. Once we’re part of a cult, there is an endorphin hit to being in the group. It iS damned tough to break through the fog to an actual thinking person inside the cult follower —
But we’re not all in the Trump cult. Even all the people voting for him are not doing it for the cult, but for venal autocratic reasons. OR, they are truly just not well informed and can have their minds changed, if we try.
We have to prevail in keeping the fascists out of our government this coming year. How about we do it by convincing people to vote for Joe. YES, understanding why SOME people lionize Mr. Orange does matter, but it is not the Be All and End All.
Let’s get people to vote for Joe. Mostly, by talking about all the good reasons they should …
I think the rest of this woo-woo is too often a distraction..
People like you -- a media pro -- are needed at Field Team 6, which targets unregistered people who trend Democratic. A completely different target market.
I have personally -- up close and personal -- seen MAGATS have an epiphany. I'm in discussion groups.
I have checked out the site, Daniel, and expect to do some work with them. Need a little more time and info. In figure I’ll do some mailing, writing, talking - whatever I can do that does not make things worse…
People are eagerly waiting to hear from you!
Ha, They just don’t know it yet, right?
So are all the maggots junk food junkies like their idol?