{I was going to say “full of baloney,” but I decided to be polite.}
Your “both-sides-ism” is invalid. I am a progressive and I NEVER justify “genocide,” nor even “collective punishment” or victimization of innocents as unavoidable “collateral damage.” And I am not alone in my Progressive principles.
{I was going to say “full of baloney,” but I decided to be polite.}
Your “both-sides-ism” is invalid. I am a progressive and I NEVER justify “genocide,” nor even “collective punishment” or victimization of innocents as unavoidable “collateral damage.” And I am not alone in my Progressive principles.
Also, I criticize the Left in general a LOT — especially cult-driven ideologues who hew to a party line and not to thoughtful ideas and strategies. There’s a great deal to be proud of in Left values, if we live by them. And I do see that some people claim to be Left but don’t have the openness to hear people disagree with them, which is anathema to what the word “liberal” means at its core.
BUT, I also see our most-probable way out of the current mire being to prevent the Heritage Society from installing whoever manages to be their Hero-of-of-the-Moment this coming year {right now, it looks like Donnie, but who knows by the summer …}. The Manaforts and Bannons and Heritage Oligarchs behind Trump are using him as their tool, but their aim is fascism, and if you wanna sit here and try to sell the idea that “both sides” are equally as dangerous, vis-a-vis fascism, then somebody needs to push back on your message.
‘Cause it’s bunk.
The Right Republicans have been fully co-opted.
The Left Democrats are at risk, but are not lost to us.
Would you have us abandon the hope of holding our democracy?
What Biden said in public we know — and I was angry with him.
What he said in private, we do NOT know, but Bibi is not pleased with Joe right now … Maybe Joe did tell him they have to have a “Come to Jesus moment.”
But Joe is STILL an improvement over Donnie, hands down.
Yes, there is still too much martial orientation to the US global footprint. And I was damned angry at Joe for the hug, and for vetoing the first UN cease-fire resolution, and for mouthing platitudes about a “right to defend,” with “protecting noncombatant civilians and children” stuck on as an afterthought.
But the reality is, there’s a ton of talking going on in that region out of earshot of microphones and not on camera. And we have two actors in Israel who are currently wedded to keeping the violence ongoing — Hamas is getting what it wants from the chaos, and I don’t think Hamas cares a fig about the suffering of Palestinian civilians. And Bibi has been holding the wolves off his butt, with the majority of Israelis wanting HIM gone, too, but leaving him in place as long as the “war” continues.
For sure, Joe Biden does not want to lose votes. He needs votes to keep the Fascists out of Washington.
For sure, Donnie thinks his antics will win him votes to keep him out of jail.
BUT, to see both of them through a single lens as portending equally dire consequences for both our country and the world? You are gravely mistaken.
Biden is moving — he has done it far too slowly — but he has moved toward supporting the call for a cease fire in Gaza. A lot of people in this country are making it tough on him NOT to go there …
Donnie is doing nothing but promise a fasciset administration from Day One. Nothing in this world can influence Donnie to do anything good for anybody but Donnie. But he is proving to be an excellent foil for the Fascists.
I don’t discount your point. I disagree with your conclusion.
Your rhetoric and your juxtapositions reveal your attitude. Moral over strategic. {As though strategies can have no moral components?}
I find no morality in enabling the Republican Party of Freedom Caucus radicals, Heritage Society reactionaries, and Trumpian fascists to take over a 250-year-old imperfect-but-struggling-to-function democracy.
{No one said you’re not entitled to your opinion. Of course you are. So am I. I as much as stated that when I said we have a serious disagreement, but in your need to be self-righteous, you take out after me. Well, go ahead. I can’t stop you from being self-righteous.}
My remarks follow right on yours, though. You get what you give.
These days, I can’t tell if I’m talking to a person or a robot.
Barry, I think you are wrong.
{I was going to say “full of baloney,” but I decided to be polite.}
Your “both-sides-ism” is invalid. I am a progressive and I NEVER justify “genocide,” nor even “collective punishment” or victimization of innocents as unavoidable “collateral damage.” And I am not alone in my Progressive principles.
Also, I criticize the Left in general a LOT — especially cult-driven ideologues who hew to a party line and not to thoughtful ideas and strategies. There’s a great deal to be proud of in Left values, if we live by them. And I do see that some people claim to be Left but don’t have the openness to hear people disagree with them, which is anathema to what the word “liberal” means at its core.
BUT, I also see our most-probable way out of the current mire being to prevent the Heritage Society from installing whoever manages to be their Hero-of-of-the-Moment this coming year {right now, it looks like Donnie, but who knows by the summer …}. The Manaforts and Bannons and Heritage Oligarchs behind Trump are using him as their tool, but their aim is fascism, and if you wanna sit here and try to sell the idea that “both sides” are equally as dangerous, vis-a-vis fascism, then somebody needs to push back on your message.
‘Cause it’s bunk.
The Right Republicans have been fully co-opted.
The Left Democrats are at risk, but are not lost to us.
Would you have us abandon the hope of holding our democracy?
What Biden said in public we know — and I was angry with him.
What he said in private, we do NOT know, but Bibi is not pleased with Joe right now … Maybe Joe did tell him they have to have a “Come to Jesus moment.”
But Joe is STILL an improvement over Donnie, hands down.
Yes, there is still too much martial orientation to the US global footprint. And I was damned angry at Joe for the hug, and for vetoing the first UN cease-fire resolution, and for mouthing platitudes about a “right to defend,” with “protecting noncombatant civilians and children” stuck on as an afterthought.
But the reality is, there’s a ton of talking going on in that region out of earshot of microphones and not on camera. And we have two actors in Israel who are currently wedded to keeping the violence ongoing — Hamas is getting what it wants from the chaos, and I don’t think Hamas cares a fig about the suffering of Palestinian civilians. And Bibi has been holding the wolves off his butt, with the majority of Israelis wanting HIM gone, too, but leaving him in place as long as the “war” continues.
For sure, Joe Biden does not want to lose votes. He needs votes to keep the Fascists out of Washington.
For sure, Donnie thinks his antics will win him votes to keep him out of jail.
BUT, to see both of them through a single lens as portending equally dire consequences for both our country and the world? You are gravely mistaken.
Biden is moving — he has done it far too slowly — but he has moved toward supporting the call for a cease fire in Gaza. A lot of people in this country are making it tough on him NOT to go there …
Donnie is doing nothing but promise a fasciset administration from Day One. Nothing in this world can influence Donnie to do anything good for anybody but Donnie. But he is proving to be an excellent foil for the Fascists.
I don’t discount your point. I disagree with your conclusion.
Well, we have a serious disagreement then.
And you can try to dress your opinion up as morally superior, but we have a difference of opinion THERE, too.
Have a nice day.
Your rhetoric and your juxtapositions reveal your attitude. Moral over strategic. {As though strategies can have no moral components?}
I find no morality in enabling the Republican Party of Freedom Caucus radicals, Heritage Society reactionaries, and Trumpian fascists to take over a 250-year-old imperfect-but-struggling-to-function democracy.
{No one said you’re not entitled to your opinion. Of course you are. So am I. I as much as stated that when I said we have a serious disagreement, but in your need to be self-righteous, you take out after me. Well, go ahead. I can’t stop you from being self-righteous.}
My remarks follow right on yours, though. You get what you give.
These days, I can’t tell if I’m talking to a person or a robot.
Have a really nice day.