I saw Jon Stewart say a few weeks ago that "Feelings don't care about your facts" regarding something else, but I saw someone reference it today. I fear that the fact checking and calling out CNN will be too late. It also doesn't matter what the candidates said but how they looked. Thom has pointed it out (and often) that Biden has done a fantastic job, but one bad night may have doomed us all.
Bret,I heard someone say on TV, that Biden was making a mistake telling people how well off they are, especially when they have to pay $4 a gallon for gas and $4 for a loaf of bread, neither are his fault, and the president has no control over prices or inflation, none but they keep acting and talking like they do, so they suffer when they spiral out of control.
The Fed actually controls inflation, the fed and producers and middle men who gouge. Gouging , at this time, favors Trump, Trump favors deregulation. It is simple, but it can't be explained simply,not with an ignorant populace.
Facts vs Feelings, feelings win every time. Humans are emotional and illogical critters
So why don't Democrats talk about the Price Gouging Bill that they attempted to pass during the gas hikes? The Republicans shot it down but it could return if you all voted Blue. Give Biden Congress and see what happens. Certain Supreme Court criminals could be impeached. Many things could be fixed. Unless the Democrats rally behind Biden, Trump will win.
Price gouging is only one of many things they should have in their ads.
The Dems are rallying around Biden. The problem is the Swing States and the 100,000 or so Muslims who live in Wisconsin, Michigan,Pennsylvania who have said that they won't vote for Biden because of Israel. Biden only won those states by 10,000 votes in 2020.. do the math.
The first loyalty to a Muslim is not the country that gives them succor, the country they fled or migrated to because of it's freedoms and opportunities they didn't have at home
No their first loyalty is to the Ummah (google it), they will sink America out of pique, then whine when Trump deports their asses as part of the 11 million.
Deregulation and monopolistic control of the markets and supply chains, in its most recent iteration was laid out by Reaganomics, it is what has gotten us into repeated problems with inflation. Monopolies are now so powerful they can blunt inflationary control by the Fed. and sway political races. A president Trump would do what every Republican since Nixon has done, exacerbate these monopoly & deregulation generated problems, just as Trump did his first time around. President Biden is the first president, in decades to pursue corporate greed with anti-trust enforcement, to any meaningful degree. (It's the only way possible to control "greedflation" but, it takes time to undo, what corporate America, and mostly the GOP, have done to damage American consumers, over many decades.) This problem was turned into a crisis with the Citizens United SCOTUS sanctioning of political bribery. As a result, 12 years later, corporate America has taken over total ownership of the Republican party and is working over the Democratic party, as much as it can. There are MAGA followers that have legitimate complaints, but unfortunately, they are being misled by the corporate owned GOP operatives that have infiltrated our media, intent upon shifting the blame away from corporate greed and monopolized media, where it belongs, to groups with little political power, minorities, immigrants, ethnicities, etc. Excess oligarch greed doesn't concern itself with floating all boats, it is determined to sink the boats of those not part of their elite GOP ruling class. It is willing to use all manner of trickery to meet their goals
A misguided ideology, if ever there was one, many of these elements have long been part of the historical fascist playbook.
His only mistake is not explaining how 60 years of republican policies and obstruction and giveaways to corporate interests are the real reason, plus corporate GREED, are the causes of all their pain. and the housing crisis? because we have allowed the bloated wealthy to steal and extract ever more profits from the working class, thus allowing them all that 'cash' to run around using any means possible to increase their wealth ever more (vulture capitalists - equity vultures, etc.) instead of taxing away those excess profits and using it to better everyone's lives - and by outlining exactly what those taxes do; streets, bridges, eliminating lead pipes, protecting drinking water and our food supply that seems to have a recall every day now, not to mention our education system, and our failed health care delivery system. Yes, we must do like those litte Chick Publication tracts put out by the radical christian evangelicals, and show the horrors of what awaits us if we don't keep democracy.
He couldn't do that on stage in the allotted time, and the Democratic party can't do that, because the slop at the same trough as the Republicans and are too busy trying to elbow each other away.
Having said that. I have no choice but to crawl over broken glass to vote for the Democrats, the alternative is unthinkable.
You know I really believe that CNN lowered the volume on Biden's Mike. Because I was driving with CNN on the phone and I could barely hear Biden while Trump was ok. Then I went in to watch it on TV MSNBC. It was better as I could hear him clearly but it was still low. When he ended and went offstage to talk to his supporters they gave him a mike and suddenly Biden was loud and clear. Why couldn't the sound be that good on the CNN soundstage. That doesn't make sense.
Ms. Reagan, both Trump and Biden agreed before the debate that there would be no fact checking on the floor by the moderators. Also both Bash and Tapper did push Trump to answer their questions.
However, I did notice the remarkable point about the questions concerning unions though. You might respond by saying: "But neither Bash nor Tapper mentioned the unions"
That is what is remarkable about the questions. They were not asked.
About 12% of the voting public is Black, and about 12% of the voting public is in a union. Both Bash and Tapper found the topic of Black voters important enough to ask about them. Why did they not also ask about unions? Unions have recently been enjoying a resurgence. Also Biden is the first president in history to join a picket line. He did it in Detroit.
Questions about unions were not asked because both Bash and Tapper come from that privileged class of white, entitled, upper-middle class professionals who are completely out of contact with ordinary working stiffs whose pay check barely allows them to make ends meet.
Biden, to his credit is in contact with those ordinary workers. Trump has withering contempt for wage earners and union members. Unions would have been a great topic for a question.
Couldn’t DISAGREE more. Are Trumpers considering dumping their liar & felon???
Next move is calling out CNN for not addressing the constant flow of lies and refusal to answer the questions by one candidate.
I saw Jon Stewart say a few weeks ago that "Feelings don't care about your facts" regarding something else, but I saw someone reference it today. I fear that the fact checking and calling out CNN will be too late. It also doesn't matter what the candidates said but how they looked. Thom has pointed it out (and often) that Biden has done a fantastic job, but one bad night may have doomed us all.
Bret,I heard someone say on TV, that Biden was making a mistake telling people how well off they are, especially when they have to pay $4 a gallon for gas and $4 for a loaf of bread, neither are his fault, and the president has no control over prices or inflation, none but they keep acting and talking like they do, so they suffer when they spiral out of control.
The Fed actually controls inflation, the fed and producers and middle men who gouge. Gouging , at this time, favors Trump, Trump favors deregulation. It is simple, but it can't be explained simply,not with an ignorant populace.
Facts vs Feelings, feelings win every time. Humans are emotional and illogical critters
Just read the comments on this thread..
So why don't Democrats talk about the Price Gouging Bill that they attempted to pass during the gas hikes? The Republicans shot it down but it could return if you all voted Blue. Give Biden Congress and see what happens. Certain Supreme Court criminals could be impeached. Many things could be fixed. Unless the Democrats rally behind Biden, Trump will win.
Price gouging is only one of many things they should have in their ads.
The Dems are rallying around Biden. The problem is the Swing States and the 100,000 or so Muslims who live in Wisconsin, Michigan,Pennsylvania who have said that they won't vote for Biden because of Israel. Biden only won those states by 10,000 votes in 2020.. do the math.
The first loyalty to a Muslim is not the country that gives them succor, the country they fled or migrated to because of it's freedoms and opportunities they didn't have at home
No their first loyalty is to the Ummah (google it), they will sink America out of pique, then whine when Trump deports their asses as part of the 11 million.
Deregulation and monopolistic control of the markets and supply chains, in its most recent iteration was laid out by Reaganomics, it is what has gotten us into repeated problems with inflation. Monopolies are now so powerful they can blunt inflationary control by the Fed. and sway political races. A president Trump would do what every Republican since Nixon has done, exacerbate these monopoly & deregulation generated problems, just as Trump did his first time around. President Biden is the first president, in decades to pursue corporate greed with anti-trust enforcement, to any meaningful degree. (It's the only way possible to control "greedflation" but, it takes time to undo, what corporate America, and mostly the GOP, have done to damage American consumers, over many decades.) This problem was turned into a crisis with the Citizens United SCOTUS sanctioning of political bribery. As a result, 12 years later, corporate America has taken over total ownership of the Republican party and is working over the Democratic party, as much as it can. There are MAGA followers that have legitimate complaints, but unfortunately, they are being misled by the corporate owned GOP operatives that have infiltrated our media, intent upon shifting the blame away from corporate greed and monopolized media, where it belongs, to groups with little political power, minorities, immigrants, ethnicities, etc. Excess oligarch greed doesn't concern itself with floating all boats, it is determined to sink the boats of those not part of their elite GOP ruling class. It is willing to use all manner of trickery to meet their goals
A misguided ideology, if ever there was one, many of these elements have long been part of the historical fascist playbook.
His only mistake is not explaining how 60 years of republican policies and obstruction and giveaways to corporate interests are the real reason, plus corporate GREED, are the causes of all their pain. and the housing crisis? because we have allowed the bloated wealthy to steal and extract ever more profits from the working class, thus allowing them all that 'cash' to run around using any means possible to increase their wealth ever more (vulture capitalists - equity vultures, etc.) instead of taxing away those excess profits and using it to better everyone's lives - and by outlining exactly what those taxes do; streets, bridges, eliminating lead pipes, protecting drinking water and our food supply that seems to have a recall every day now, not to mention our education system, and our failed health care delivery system. Yes, we must do like those litte Chick Publication tracts put out by the radical christian evangelicals, and show the horrors of what awaits us if we don't keep democracy.
He couldn't do that on stage in the allotted time, and the Democratic party can't do that, because the slop at the same trough as the Republicans and are too busy trying to elbow each other away.
Having said that. I have no choice but to crawl over broken glass to vote for the Democrats, the alternative is unthinkable.
Totally agree with you on both points!
And I will continue to call out CNN for their moderator’s vapid performance. They were more like bystanders.
You know I really believe that CNN lowered the volume on Biden's Mike. Because I was driving with CNN on the phone and I could barely hear Biden while Trump was ok. Then I went in to watch it on TV MSNBC. It was better as I could hear him clearly but it was still low. When he ended and went offstage to talk to his supporters they gave him a mike and suddenly Biden was loud and clear. Why couldn't the sound be that good on the CNN soundstage. That doesn't make sense.
I tend to avoid conspiracy theories, but as they go, this one's a good one and I wouldn't put it past them.
Ms. Reagan, both Trump and Biden agreed before the debate that there would be no fact checking on the floor by the moderators. Also both Bash and Tapper did push Trump to answer their questions.
However, I did notice the remarkable point about the questions concerning unions though. You might respond by saying: "But neither Bash nor Tapper mentioned the unions"
That is what is remarkable about the questions. They were not asked.
About 12% of the voting public is Black, and about 12% of the voting public is in a union. Both Bash and Tapper found the topic of Black voters important enough to ask about them. Why did they not also ask about unions? Unions have recently been enjoying a resurgence. Also Biden is the first president in history to join a picket line. He did it in Detroit.
Questions about unions were not asked because both Bash and Tapper come from that privileged class of white, entitled, upper-middle class professionals who are completely out of contact with ordinary working stiffs whose pay check barely allows them to make ends meet.
Biden, to his credit is in contact with those ordinary workers. Trump has withering contempt for wage earners and union members. Unions would have been a great topic for a question.
Bash and Tapper, must want a dictatorship? It sounds like they were promoting dividing the races to me? That goes with they're not fact checking also.
CNN's handling of the debate was an absolute disgrace. How difficult was it to fact check Trumps lies?