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Robert B. Elliott's avatar

The man had a bad night. They said he would have an advantage because there was no audience for Trump to pander to but Biden is a person who also derives his energy and motivation from an audience and he was dumbstruck that he was actually forced to argue against the totally mendacious utterings of a deranged babbling freak who was merely repeating his lines from his campaign rallies. I only watched part of it but the issue is the errors in judgment on the part of the people who orchestrated the debate. They should not have agreed to such a format if the moderators were not required to address the glaring falsity of statements which everyone knew would be coming and the vicious attacks which were predictable and without any foundation in reality. Those two moderators might as well have been robots and they should have been outraged and insulted that their serious questions were utilized as a vehicle for a sick and dangerous madman to further incite a bunch of yahoos out in the hinterland. Biden was over-prepared and should have been resting instead of being coached by a lot of brainiacs. He will kill in the second debate if given that opportunity but either way, a debate is just a show and an exercise in spreading propaganda for the uninvolved and undecided. Let' see that list of flagrant lies and the facts to dispute them and get it published on the front page of a few of the big newspapers and on every website that isn't right-wing.

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Jo's avatar

I agree completely. Why have a debate at all if one party lies the whole time ? This wasn’t debate at all. It was one man defending himself against a tyrant. This writing was on the wall way before this debate was scheduled.

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Cassandra Here's avatar

As one activist friend put it: “CNN didn’t host a debate, they hosted a cage fight between a bully and an elder statesman.” So we’re picking up where the bully left off? Are we the mean girls, the heathers?

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Jo's avatar

I agree. I think it’s appalling that democrats are not supporting Biden right now. We may not have time to vet another candidate and if Trump wins I’m afraid all will be lost.

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William Farrar's avatar

I agree Ja one does not change horses in the middle of a stream. the DNC needs a serious overhaul, not only personnel but mission, and mentality, they need young blood, not more Tom Perez's, people who can motivate millenials, Gens X,.Y and Z and not kiss the ass of Wall Street, the donor class.

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Angela Benson's avatar

Send this out to amplify how much trump lied in the debate. Too bad there wasn’t a visual of the lies posted on screen behind the candidates.

https://youtu.be/15VP8dn93b0?si=_Vxci5KQr89fkcxn

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Robert B. Elliott's avatar

Thanks for that. The real problem is that it is futile to try to use rational arguments and reason with someone who is insane, irrational, or under the influence of some substance or mental disorder. One is talking to hear oneself talk. It was a foregone conclusion that anything Biden said was not going to have any effect except on those of us who live in the rational universe. CNN was criminally negligent in not requiring that any and all patently false statements and malicious attacks be followed with disclaimers, a recognition that they were undeserving of a response, and factual information correcting the record. It was not designed to be a debate with two debaters presenting arguments. It was set up so that Trump could ambush Biden, verbally assault him incessantly, and repeat over and over his pathological diatribes from his senseless rallies. Joe appeared to be sleep deprived and suffering from a cold and was probably inundated with information which he suddenly realized was all but irrelevant in that situation. I will add, as well, that when Thom was under the weather with COVID, he didn't do his show for two or three days. Biden showed up and gave it his best under the circumstances. Give the man a little slack.

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