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Ah, yes, the ages old (as in the entirety of human history) a woman's place is in the home, preferably barefoot & pregnant.

She is chattel, she is a commodity to be bartered for, enslaved, ignored, invisible. She only needs to be brought out when needed to support her Lord & master, you know, stand by his side as he denies that sexual dalience with his secretary(either male or female). Then back to the house she goes to be a good little wifey until the next time.

Do you think that these mysoginists ever take their ideas to the end result. If all those women stay home whose going to the menial tasks that the all powerful men won't do. You know, how many men do you see as "housekeeping" in hotels, motels. And who will take care of the "sexual needs" of the unmarried man, oh, I forgot, the "oldest business in the world", prostitution will be ok as long as there's a man as the Pimp in Charge.

So if we, as women, take this story to what WE see as the logical conclusion man's economy will come to a screeching halt. Are we sure that corporate America, those bastions of idealism, will give their all male staffs a living wage? Hmm, now that is a conundrum isn't it? So, now, we have even more homeless & this time we will look like the poor in India, climbing over mountains of garbage trying to find something to eat or something they can salvage to sell. Ah, I can see the cardboard box cities now.

Are you going to say that there are inconsistacies in my story? Sure there are but no worse than the ridiculous conclusions that these men have come up with.

So sure put women back under your thumbs good luck with the world you create for yourselves.

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I think it is time to read a story written by Aristophanes called lysistrata.

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Barbara, since none of is will, then please provide a short synopsis. what is the moral and punchline.

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It's Greek, written BC. Wives want to stop a war

Their husbands won't listen, so they deny them sexual favors shall we say and their husband's get really upset. This is done by the women on both sides of the war and it ends up ending the war. That was a poor synopsis but I'm doing this on a cell phone so you know!

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Thanks, I have been advocating this forever, and not just wars, but the war against women. The only reason that we have this situation is that women won't keep their legs closed. If women stood up to men, and said no more pussy until Trump is gone, nor more pussy until we have full rights, we wouldn't be in this situation, because save for a few liberal men, men are sexually obsessed and need to dominate women.

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I have always enjoyed Lysistrata's inherent message and the power of the myth to motivate women and deter men from war. The same power of myth empowers all religions. For example, look at what Christianity has done with the Jesus myth. Yes, he was a person, but the story of his rising from the dead and becoming the Son of God is the essential underpinning of Christianity. When I hear people chastise Mormons, for example, for their story, I say they look at Christians who believe a person rose from the dead.

Each religion's stories are powerful spiritual avenues. What stories or beliefs empower you spiritually? When researching southern California's Indigenous tribes, I obtained research material written by a prominent caucasian historian from the 1920s, a book made available to me by one of the tribe's people I knew from kindergarten through high school. As he handed me the material, he said, Carol, we don't believe those stories anymore." No, they had been indoctrinated to embrace the Christian stories - traded one set of beliefs for the other that provided them the story of creation. Of course, at that moment on the reservation, I was not about to elaborate on the price they paid to believe in the Judeo-Christian Christ. Joseph Campbell's The Power of The Myth makes this clear.

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I am sorry. I wasn't clear about what I meant by Joseph Campbell's The Power of the Myth; he clarified that the story brings us to our spiritual selves.

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