We have a lot in common. I am 85 and also live in the PNW. In fact I can drive 15 minutes, see Mt Rainier and the Olympics and do an about Face and see Mt Baker, then drive another 15 minutes and see Victoria BC from the beach.
I took exception to your comment that Pobosiec was being sarcastic and that is excusing his, and Trump;s promise…
We have a lot in common. I am 85 and also live in the PNW. In fact I can drive 15 minutes, see Mt Rainier and the Olympics and do an about Face and see Mt Baker, then drive another 15 minutes and see Victoria BC from the beach.
I took exception to your comment that Pobosiec was being sarcastic and that is excusing his, and Trump;s promise to end democracy. Given all you say about yourself, I do not understand why you would engage in apologia.
I totally agree with everything else you say. In fact I have corrected the record by showing that the "founders" actually created a democratic Republic, and in fact Jefferson and Adams found the first political party and named it the Democratic Republican party.
It was for land owning men, not necessarily white, as there were free land owning black men at the time, and even in the south until the Nat Turner rebellion.
The constitution they created left the particulars of voting to the states, meaning the states could set the rules as to who was eligible to vote.
The first election was land owning white men, mostly planters in the south, then the parties in power in the several states, realized that they could benefit from enfranchising all men, property owning or not, and that idea caught on and spread to all states. Not even considered were women.
It took four amendments, the 15th,17th,19th and 26th to democratize voting and America.
There were also black slave owning planters, most in S.C. and Louisiana until the Nat Turner rebellion, that so scared the southern white planters that they re enslaved the blacks.
Another tidbit. Marx, whose partner Frederick Engels had inherited a textile mill, wrote scathing letters to the editor of southern papers, mostly Charleston, imploring them to free the slaves and hire them back at market wages.
Reason was that American cotton was too expensive and cut into Engels profits, as consequence Engels resorted to buying the cheaper and inferior Egyptian cotton.
What Marx didn't know was that the southern elite, the planters and upper middle class,
remembered all too well the Nat Turner Rebellion, and the idea of free blacks, scared the hell out of them, and rightfully so, guilty consciences for breaking up families, treating people like animals, using, abusing and raping them.
The south would never have freed the slaves.
By the way way my 3rd great grandfather was drafted into Owens Company, 3rd Regiment, 2nd draft Georgia infantry as part of Morgan County's slave patrol (militia)
We have a lot in common. I am 85 and also live in the PNW. In fact I can drive 15 minutes, see Mt Rainier and the Olympics and do an about Face and see Mt Baker, then drive another 15 minutes and see Victoria BC from the beach.
I took exception to your comment that Pobosiec was being sarcastic and that is excusing his, and Trump;s promise to end democracy. Given all you say about yourself, I do not understand why you would engage in apologia.
I totally agree with everything else you say. In fact I have corrected the record by showing that the "founders" actually created a democratic Republic, and in fact Jefferson and Adams found the first political party and named it the Democratic Republican party.
It was for land owning men, not necessarily white, as there were free land owning black men at the time, and even in the south until the Nat Turner rebellion.
The constitution they created left the particulars of voting to the states, meaning the states could set the rules as to who was eligible to vote.
The first election was land owning white men, mostly planters in the south, then the parties in power in the several states, realized that they could benefit from enfranchising all men, property owning or not, and that idea caught on and spread to all states. Not even considered were women.
It took four amendments, the 15th,17th,19th and 26th to democratize voting and America.
There were also black slave owning planters, most in S.C. and Louisiana until the Nat Turner rebellion, that so scared the southern white planters that they re enslaved the blacks.
Another tidbit. Marx, whose partner Frederick Engels had inherited a textile mill, wrote scathing letters to the editor of southern papers, mostly Charleston, imploring them to free the slaves and hire them back at market wages.
Reason was that American cotton was too expensive and cut into Engels profits, as consequence Engels resorted to buying the cheaper and inferior Egyptian cotton.
What Marx didn't know was that the southern elite, the planters and upper middle class,
remembered all too well the Nat Turner Rebellion, and the idea of free blacks, scared the hell out of them, and rightfully so, guilty consciences for breaking up families, treating people like animals, using, abusing and raping them.
The south would never have freed the slaves.
By the way way my 3rd great grandfather was drafted into Owens Company, 3rd Regiment, 2nd draft Georgia infantry as part of Morgan County's slave patrol (militia)