I seem to have touched a nerve. The US Supreme Court ripped the election from Gore. But would that opportunity arisen without Nader’s vote. I guess I’m assuming that the Nader vote would have gone to Gore but that seems reasonable.
Here is what I found on the voting #s: “ The 2000 presidential election popular vote totals in Florida wer…
I seem to have touched a nerve. The US Supreme Court ripped the election from Gore. But would that opportunity arisen without Nader’s vote. I guess I’m assuming that the Nader vote would have gone to Gore but that seems reasonable.
Here is what I found on the voting #s: “ The 2000 presidential election popular vote totals in Florida were George W. Bush 2,912,790, Al Gore 2,912,253 and Ralph Nader 97,488.” Kindly help me understand why the Nader vote was immaterial.
Rats! Hope I'm not duplicating. I guess I'll go ahead and start with the Commission on Civil Rights report link, and then more meat of the matter from The Nation. I was going to let it go, but got curious about auld lang syne....
Hanging chads, butterfly ballots, the antics of Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris, and thousands of Jews accidentally voting for Pat Buchanan in Palm Beach were among the stories that captured the headlines during the chaotic 36-day Florida recount between Al Gore and George W. Bush. The widespread and wrongful purging of registered voters was the most consequential—and least discussed—aspect of the Florida election.
The NAACP sued Florida after the election for violating the Voting Rights Act (VRA). As a result of the settlement, the company that the Florida legislature entrusted with the purge—the Boca Raton–based Database Technologies (DBT)—ran the names on its 2000 purge list using stricter criteria. The exercise turned up 12,000 voters who shouldn’t have been labeled felons. That was 22 times Bush’s 537-vote margin of victory.
No one could ever determine precisely how many voters who were incorrectly labeled felons were turned away from the polls. But the US Civil Rights Commission launched a major investigation into the 2000 election fiasco, and its acting general counsel, Edward Hailes, did the math the best that he could. If 12,000 voters were wrongly purged from the rolls, and 44 percent of them were African-American, and 90 percent of African-Americans voted for Gore, that meant 4,752 black Gore voters—almost nine times Bush’s margin of victory—could have been prevented from voting. It’s not a stretch to conclude that the purge cost Gore the election. “We did think it was outcome-determinative,” Hailes said.
In May 2000, after the first supposedly corrected batch of names was released, the election supervisor in Madison County found herself on the purge list. Ion Sancho, the election supervisor for Tallahassee’s Leon County, was the only election official to go through the list one by one. “We went for a five-for-five match,” he told Vanity Fair. “Those were criteria such as name, birth date, race, sex, Social Security number. When we applied that to this list of 697 that we got in 2000, I could verify only 33.”
And pps (what the heck) about the Nader vote going to Gore: My creaky Way-back file has something about Gore being yet another oil oligarch scion: Armand Hammer? And, by golly, bell ringing about doing oil business with the USSR. Cue Twilight Zone theme. Everything old is new again.
Jeesh! Looks like I got it in. Nation article only sampled. Neither you nor I tried to get the Pat Buchanan count. Thing is, doesn't so much sound horribly familiar, hello Georgia. Thom keeps us in touch with Greg Palast.
I seem to have touched a nerve. The US Supreme Court ripped the election from Gore. But would that opportunity arisen without Nader’s vote. I guess I’m assuming that the Nader vote would have gone to Gore but that seems reasonable.
Here is what I found on the voting #s: “ The 2000 presidential election popular vote totals in Florida were George W. Bush 2,912,790, Al Gore 2,912,253 and Ralph Nader 97,488.” Kindly help me understand why the Nader vote was immaterial.
Rats! Hope I'm not duplicating. I guess I'll go ahead and start with the Commission on Civil Rights report link, and then more meat of the matter from The Nation. I was going to let it go, but got curious about auld lang syne....
https://www.usccr.gov/files/pubs/vote2000/report/exesum.htm
and from: https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/how-the-2000-election-in-florida-led-to-a-new-wave-of-voter-disenfranchisement/
Hanging chads, butterfly ballots, the antics of Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris, and thousands of Jews accidentally voting for Pat Buchanan in Palm Beach were among the stories that captured the headlines during the chaotic 36-day Florida recount between Al Gore and George W. Bush. The widespread and wrongful purging of registered voters was the most consequential—and least discussed—aspect of the Florida election.
The NAACP sued Florida after the election for violating the Voting Rights Act (VRA). As a result of the settlement, the company that the Florida legislature entrusted with the purge—the Boca Raton–based Database Technologies (DBT)—ran the names on its 2000 purge list using stricter criteria. The exercise turned up 12,000 voters who shouldn’t have been labeled felons. That was 22 times Bush’s 537-vote margin of victory.
No one could ever determine precisely how many voters who were incorrectly labeled felons were turned away from the polls. But the US Civil Rights Commission launched a major investigation into the 2000 election fiasco, and its acting general counsel, Edward Hailes, did the math the best that he could. If 12,000 voters were wrongly purged from the rolls, and 44 percent of them were African-American, and 90 percent of African-Americans voted for Gore, that meant 4,752 black Gore voters—almost nine times Bush’s margin of victory—could have been prevented from voting. It’s not a stretch to conclude that the purge cost Gore the election. “We did think it was outcome-determinative,” Hailes said.
In May 2000, after the first supposedly corrected batch of names was released, the election supervisor in Madison County found herself on the purge list. Ion Sancho, the election supervisor for Tallahassee’s Leon County, was the only election official to go through the list one by one. “We went for a five-for-five match,” he told Vanity Fair. “Those were criteria such as name, birth date, race, sex, Social Security number. When we applied that to this list of 697 that we got in 2000, I could verify only 33.”
And pps (what the heck) about the Nader vote going to Gore: My creaky Way-back file has something about Gore being yet another oil oligarch scion: Armand Hammer? And, by golly, bell ringing about doing oil business with the USSR. Cue Twilight Zone theme. Everything old is new again.
Jeesh! Looks like I got it in. Nation article only sampled. Neither you nor I tried to get the Pat Buchanan count. Thing is, doesn't so much sound horribly familiar, hello Georgia. Thom keeps us in touch with Greg Palast.