When I last looked we are US citizens and 30 of our countrymen were murdered and 11 more are unaccounted for most probably in Gaza. US policy has been land for peace since 1967. On paper, Israel has the same.
Why did the October 7 pogrom happen? Because Hamas wants to undermine peace negotiations between Israel and other Arab countries. P…
When I last looked we are US citizens and 30 of our countrymen were murdered and 11 more are unaccounted for most probably in Gaza. US policy has been land for peace since 1967. On paper, Israel has the same.
Why did the October 7 pogrom happen? Because Hamas wants to undermine peace negotiations between Israel and other Arab countries. Peace is Hamas' WATNA. .
Israeli Arabs have greater civil rights than citizens in any Arab country. They and Christians and others are free to worship. I personally do not like the Likud history or their philosophy, but they cannot dictate their philosophy. I am personally offended that ultraorthodox Jews are exempt from military service.
I've been advocating that Arabs form a peace corps, should go to Gaza. Save innocents. But the Arab leaders generally hate Hamas more than Israel.
According to estimates from the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, more than 600,000 people have been killed since the start of the war. In its 2023 Global Appeal, the UN reported that more than 6.9 million are currently internally displaced, with more than 5.4 million living as refugees abroad. Where are the demonstrations at every Syrian embassy?
How many Arabs or Muslims must be murdered before there are global demonstrations against that regime?
Hmmmm.. what's missing here is that Israel has been illegally occupying land AND committing crimes against humanity against its occupants for decades. That is the real issue. If Israel would retract its illegal settlements and offer a land compromise, as well as returning the hundreds if not thousands of Palestinians children and men it holds prisoner without cause, that would be a major step towards peace in the region. Leaders of Hamas who have been ostracized by American press during their interviews have repeatedly stated they want return of the prisoners and their land, all the while the terrorist government of Israel is portrayed as the victim and Biden hugs the Trump of Israel Netanyahu. Let's be clear--it is Isreal who stole the land of the Palestinian people and then punished them for it. Israel is the oppressor, they have all the power, the Palestinians are the oppressed, they have none. The US does the dirty work of Israel as proven by the first legislation passed under Trump's Congress, anti-free speech legislation favoring Israel in this country some label as a democracy. https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/04/23/us-states-use-anti-boycott-laws-punish-responsible-businesses
Get your facts straight, before you spread lies and disinfo
Theodore Herzl, the father of Zionism, and his group of volunteers, purchased land from the Arabs, the Bedouins that call themselves Palestine after WWI, they turned a barren land, into green, constructed homes, Kibbutz, and the land prospered.
Their Muslim neighbors looked upon their success with envy and anger. Anger because the Jews showed the paucity and stagnation of their own culture.
So in 1948, their Arab neighbors launched a war to drive out the Jews, the Brits when they left the area, disabled their planes and tanks, and destroyed their ammunition.
The Israel's were able with ingenuity, repair the disabled planes and equipment and ordered lipstick tubes with they re-manufactured into bullets.
And they drove out the Muslim invaders, and in so doing took the land, (to the victor goes the spoils, and they needed the land to provide a barrier against their neighbors, the "poor Arabs" that lived in the land, trekked into Lebanon carrying the keys to their homes. They should have thought about the consequences when they tried to wipe the Jews off the map of the Mid East.
Not having learned their lesson, they kept trying again and again, and each time they lost more land.
So pity not the "poor Palestinians". and pity not the Gazan's, who to a person vigorously supported HAMAS invasion of Israel. I can well imagine women sitting in front of their TV sets, watching the terrorists kidnap, rape, torture and murder Jewish women, children, disabled and elderly. Ulating and the kids cheering, now they are weeping as chickens come home to roost. (Did you know that HAMAS has ordered that kidnap victims that are too much trouble, like the disabled, young children, even teens be killed.)
Hell of a world, when Muslims have a license to kill, rape, murder, and the Jews are called war criminals for defending themselves and attacking their enemy.
Hermann Göring was tried and condemned to hang For bombing cities, but the commander of 8th AF, Curt Lemay (my old boss) and Air Marshall "Bomber" Harris weren't, neither was Stalin even reprimanded for his war crimes.
Either Israel has a right to exist or it doesn't. Where do you stand on that?
How can it exist when surrounded by enemies who are RELIGIOUSLY dedicated, per their sacred texts, to obliteration of the Jews, as evidenced in Art 7 of the HAMAS covenant
Iran is more oblique, It's preamble says: "The Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Iran sets forth the cultural, social, political, and economic institutions of Iranian society on the basis of Islamic principles and norms, which represent the earnest aspiration of the Islamic Ummah." The Islamic Ummah is the whole community of Muslims bound together by ties of religion.
And those ties that bind are the Quran and haddiths, including the biography of Mo by ibn Ishaq.
In case you aren't familiar with Islam. I am I have studied it, the Quran, haddiths and ibn Ishaq. I know so much that a Muslim on the intwerwebs said I was murtadd, an apostate, because anyone who knew as much as I, just had to be a Muslim.
Like a Christian saying if you read the Bible you have to be a Christian.
The haddith of al Bukhari quoted above and the Coveneant of HAMAS, calls for not just the eradication of Israel, but finishing the job that Hitler started.
You missed the part where Jews lived and were a majority in the old city of Jerusalem, taken by the Arab Legion in 1948. In 1948, 150,000 Jews. From 1948 to 1967, NO (0.00) Jews in the old city. In 1948 the Arab Legion was going to kill all Jews or chase them into the sea, and told Arab residents to leave. Those who stayed are Israeli citizens. Those that left, estimated at 700,000 were displaced by 900,000 Sephardic Jews, who lost their land and life in Moslem countries, SENT by the Arab Legion to die in an Arab Legion march to the sea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world
I don't support Likud, or Netanyahu, but the answer is not a pogrom. It's not killing an Olympic team. It's not sending kids to die as suicide bombers. Its's not blowing up non military targets like delis and pizza shops. How about land for peace.
Did you oppose the 1979 deal? The Oslo Accords. Hamas and Islamic Jihad did. They oppose the existence of Israel. Death to all people named Barry Kaufman.
If the Arabs wanted to help, they would have developed the West Bank and Gaza. They have a history of support for indiscriminate terror against civilians, suicide bombings, and murder of Jews everywhere.
Let's talk about Jerusalem. Mark Twain, visited the city, and wrote of it, that it was a filthy, rat infested, run down dirty place. The Jews cleaned it up.
Call me racist, in this regard, but look what Arabs (Iran isn't Arab) have done or rather not done, to their own societies. Riyadh, the desalination plants, the oil wells, refineries, and Hiways, even their airports were built by foreign contractors and overseen by foreign engineers. They have to import foreigners to haul their garbage and clean their streets, and, if infidels, force them to live behind walls in compounds which they then desacralize, because infidels can not live on holy Muslim land.
When I last looked we are US citizens and 30 of our countrymen were murdered and 11 more are unaccounted for most probably in Gaza. US policy has been land for peace since 1967. On paper, Israel has the same.
Why did the October 7 pogrom happen? Because Hamas wants to undermine peace negotiations between Israel and other Arab countries. Peace is Hamas' WATNA. .
Israeli Arabs have greater civil rights than citizens in any Arab country. They and Christians and others are free to worship. I personally do not like the Likud history or their philosophy, but they cannot dictate their philosophy. I am personally offended that ultraorthodox Jews are exempt from military service.
I've been advocating that Arabs form a peace corps, should go to Gaza. Save innocents. But the Arab leaders generally hate Hamas more than Israel.
According to estimates from the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, more than 600,000 people have been killed since the start of the war. In its 2023 Global Appeal, the UN reported that more than 6.9 million are currently internally displaced, with more than 5.4 million living as refugees abroad. Where are the demonstrations at every Syrian embassy?
How many Arabs or Muslims must be murdered before there are global demonstrations against that regime?
Only Jews get this honor!
Hmmmm.. what's missing here is that Israel has been illegally occupying land AND committing crimes against humanity against its occupants for decades. That is the real issue. If Israel would retract its illegal settlements and offer a land compromise, as well as returning the hundreds if not thousands of Palestinians children and men it holds prisoner without cause, that would be a major step towards peace in the region. Leaders of Hamas who have been ostracized by American press during their interviews have repeatedly stated they want return of the prisoners and their land, all the while the terrorist government of Israel is portrayed as the victim and Biden hugs the Trump of Israel Netanyahu. Let's be clear--it is Isreal who stole the land of the Palestinian people and then punished them for it. Israel is the oppressor, they have all the power, the Palestinians are the oppressed, they have none. The US does the dirty work of Israel as proven by the first legislation passed under Trump's Congress, anti-free speech legislation favoring Israel in this country some label as a democracy. https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/04/23/us-states-use-anti-boycott-laws-punish-responsible-businesses
Get your facts straight, before you spread lies and disinfo
Theodore Herzl, the father of Zionism, and his group of volunteers, purchased land from the Arabs, the Bedouins that call themselves Palestine after WWI, they turned a barren land, into green, constructed homes, Kibbutz, and the land prospered.
Their Muslim neighbors looked upon their success with envy and anger. Anger because the Jews showed the paucity and stagnation of their own culture.
So in 1948, their Arab neighbors launched a war to drive out the Jews, the Brits when they left the area, disabled their planes and tanks, and destroyed their ammunition.
The Israel's were able with ingenuity, repair the disabled planes and equipment and ordered lipstick tubes with they re-manufactured into bullets.
And they drove out the Muslim invaders, and in so doing took the land, (to the victor goes the spoils, and they needed the land to provide a barrier against their neighbors, the "poor Arabs" that lived in the land, trekked into Lebanon carrying the keys to their homes. They should have thought about the consequences when they tried to wipe the Jews off the map of the Mid East.
Not having learned their lesson, they kept trying again and again, and each time they lost more land.
So pity not the "poor Palestinians". and pity not the Gazan's, who to a person vigorously supported HAMAS invasion of Israel. I can well imagine women sitting in front of their TV sets, watching the terrorists kidnap, rape, torture and murder Jewish women, children, disabled and elderly. Ulating and the kids cheering, now they are weeping as chickens come home to roost. (Did you know that HAMAS has ordered that kidnap victims that are too much trouble, like the disabled, young children, even teens be killed.)
Hell of a world, when Muslims have a license to kill, rape, murder, and the Jews are called war criminals for defending themselves and attacking their enemy.
Hermann Göring was tried and condemned to hang For bombing cities, but the commander of 8th AF, Curt Lemay (my old boss) and Air Marshall "Bomber" Harris weren't, neither was Stalin even reprimanded for his war crimes.
Either Israel has a right to exist or it doesn't. Where do you stand on that?
How can it exist when surrounded by enemies who are RELIGIOUSLY dedicated, per their sacred texts, to obliteration of the Jews, as evidenced in Art 7 of the HAMAS covenant
Iran is more oblique, It's preamble says: "The Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Iran sets forth the cultural, social, political, and economic institutions of Iranian society on the basis of Islamic principles and norms, which represent the earnest aspiration of the Islamic Ummah." The Islamic Ummah is the whole community of Muslims bound together by ties of religion.
And those ties that bind are the Quran and haddiths, including the biography of Mo by ibn Ishaq.
In case you aren't familiar with Islam. I am I have studied it, the Quran, haddiths and ibn Ishaq. I know so much that a Muslim on the intwerwebs said I was murtadd, an apostate, because anyone who knew as much as I, just had to be a Muslim.
Like a Christian saying if you read the Bible you have to be a Christian.
The haddith of al Bukhari quoted above and the Coveneant of HAMAS, calls for not just the eradication of Israel, but finishing the job that Hitler started.
You missed the part where Jews lived and were a majority in the old city of Jerusalem, taken by the Arab Legion in 1948. In 1948, 150,000 Jews. From 1948 to 1967, NO (0.00) Jews in the old city. In 1948 the Arab Legion was going to kill all Jews or chase them into the sea, and told Arab residents to leave. Those who stayed are Israeli citizens. Those that left, estimated at 700,000 were displaced by 900,000 Sephardic Jews, who lost their land and life in Moslem countries, SENT by the Arab Legion to die in an Arab Legion march to the sea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world
I don't support Likud, or Netanyahu, but the answer is not a pogrom. It's not killing an Olympic team. It's not sending kids to die as suicide bombers. Its's not blowing up non military targets like delis and pizza shops. How about land for peace.
Did you oppose the 1979 deal? The Oslo Accords. Hamas and Islamic Jihad did. They oppose the existence of Israel. Death to all people named Barry Kaufman.
If the Arabs wanted to help, they would have developed the West Bank and Gaza. They have a history of support for indiscriminate terror against civilians, suicide bombings, and murder of Jews everywhere.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_for_peace#:~:text=The%20name%20Land%20for%20Peace,of%20belligerency%20(Making%20Peace).
Let's talk about Jerusalem. Mark Twain, visited the city, and wrote of it, that it was a filthy, rat infested, run down dirty place. The Jews cleaned it up.
Call me racist, in this regard, but look what Arabs (Iran isn't Arab) have done or rather not done, to their own societies. Riyadh, the desalination plants, the oil wells, refineries, and Hiways, even their airports were built by foreign contractors and overseen by foreign engineers. They have to import foreigners to haul their garbage and clean their streets, and, if infidels, force them to live behind walls in compounds which they then desacralize, because infidels can not live on holy Muslim land.