Robert I am going to throw out an observation. From what I've seen,and there is documentation, the more coddled and fondled the male by it's mother and family females, the more misogynist it is when grown, besides being mamma boys, they are prone to the madonna whore mentality. This is true in the Italian, Arab and even orthodox Jew cult…
Robert I am going to throw out an observation. From what I've seen,and there is documentation, the more coddled and fondled the male by it's mother and family females, the more misogynist it is when grown, besides being mamma boys, they are prone to the madonna whore mentality. This is true in the Italian, Arab and even orthodox Jew culture.
Where male children are treated as little gods, and even have their private parts fondled, as infants,in some part of the Arab world it is not unusual to have a six year old boy nursing off his mother.
That has a Freudian sound to me, which is suspect, although there may be documentation which proves something. I would have to see some logical connection which explains the phenomenon. I'm not all that sure that a six year-old nursing necessarily indicates pathology or that boys in that culture being favored is significant beyond the usual connections. But the questions are always worth asking if you have the time to pursue it.
So Freud is a charge hurled at someone, and once hurled in battle, one must run a way from or defend.
Please do better than assign what you think or pejorative labels to notions.
There is an essence of truth in all ideas and theories, mind you I said essence.
As concerns coddling young male, and having them grow up to be madonna whore ,mammaboys is an observation, not only of me, but of others. Want a study, I don't have time or funding for a study, nor the need to spend hours of research, but carving out my comment about some Arab females suckling a boy child, as something to grab hold of and quibble my observation is, well to put it mildly, a logical fallacy.
But I also stand by that. You might pick up a copy of Sandra McKay's The Iranians, lots of insight there.
I find the last comment of yours of interest though:
" But the questions are always worth asking if you have the time to pursue it."
Oh I had the time, and I pursued it, I most certainly did, that is how I have arrived at my opinions. Lots of times, lots of readings, lots of experience, lots of travel, lots of open mindedness and course lots of opinions.
By the way, by open mindedness I don't mean judgmental, I leave judging to others, I am of the whatever floats your boat mentality. however I find explanation for human behavior in the cultures men create to attain and maintain dominance and control. Lots of similarities, though difference in application.
I did not express an opinion on Freud. He was probably right about many things. I did not express doubt about how much time you have spent in following your interests. I noted that it all takes time and suggested that I personally do not have the time or particular interest with respect to that issue. But I'm glad you have things to keep you busy.
I guess I misread when you started out. "How Freudian, of you"
BTW I never read Freud, I was not taught Freud, all I know of him is from popular culture, that he was obsessed with sex and I presume his relationship to childhood.
Robert I am going to throw out an observation. From what I've seen,and there is documentation, the more coddled and fondled the male by it's mother and family females, the more misogynist it is when grown, besides being mamma boys, they are prone to the madonna whore mentality. This is true in the Italian, Arab and even orthodox Jew culture.
Where male children are treated as little gods, and even have their private parts fondled, as infants,in some part of the Arab world it is not unusual to have a six year old boy nursing off his mother.
William,
That has a Freudian sound to me, which is suspect, although there may be documentation which proves something. I would have to see some logical connection which explains the phenomenon. I'm not all that sure that a six year-old nursing necessarily indicates pathology or that boys in that culture being favored is significant beyond the usual connections. But the questions are always worth asking if you have the time to pursue it.
So Freud is a charge hurled at someone, and once hurled in battle, one must run a way from or defend.
Please do better than assign what you think or pejorative labels to notions.
There is an essence of truth in all ideas and theories, mind you I said essence.
As concerns coddling young male, and having them grow up to be madonna whore ,mammaboys is an observation, not only of me, but of others. Want a study, I don't have time or funding for a study, nor the need to spend hours of research, but carving out my comment about some Arab females suckling a boy child, as something to grab hold of and quibble my observation is, well to put it mildly, a logical fallacy.
But I also stand by that. You might pick up a copy of Sandra McKay's The Iranians, lots of insight there.
I find the last comment of yours of interest though:
" But the questions are always worth asking if you have the time to pursue it."
Oh I had the time, and I pursued it, I most certainly did, that is how I have arrived at my opinions. Lots of times, lots of readings, lots of experience, lots of travel, lots of open mindedness and course lots of opinions.
By the way, by open mindedness I don't mean judgmental, I leave judging to others, I am of the whatever floats your boat mentality. however I find explanation for human behavior in the cultures men create to attain and maintain dominance and control. Lots of similarities, though difference in application.
I did not express an opinion on Freud. He was probably right about many things. I did not express doubt about how much time you have spent in following your interests. I noted that it all takes time and suggested that I personally do not have the time or particular interest with respect to that issue. But I'm glad you have things to keep you busy.
I guess I misread when you started out. "How Freudian, of you"
BTW I never read Freud, I was not taught Freud, all I know of him is from popular culture, that he was obsessed with sex and I presume his relationship to childhood.