Like Hitler, Netanyahu, and Bush all did, Putin just claimed that up is down, that the terrorist attack he knew was coming was an unprovoked surprise, and that it came from Ukraine, not ISIS-K...
The old autocrats and wannabe autocrats are nearing the end of their lives. They don't care about anyone but themselves. Certainly not their countries or their countrymen. Sadly, it seems to me that the question is not whether the Goeterdaemmerung is coming, but when. Because like Nero, they all, including the faux orange god of our American cultists, cannot imagine a world without them in it, and will happily bring an end to that world along with their own lives.
Mr. Hartman. It is a time honored strategic tactic for national leaders to sit on their hands while they have knowledge that some foe is about to attack an element of the national apparatus; then allow this attack as a mechanism to enrage the domestic population to the point where they are willing to engage in war. A more complete list in the last century should include at least:
1) Hitler and the Reichstag building.
2) Roosevelt and Pearl Harbor.
3) Kennedy and Diem.
4) Johnson and the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
5) Baby Bush and 911.
6) Netanyahu and the Hamas attack.
7) Now possibly Putin and the theater building.
This list ignores other different, but similar acts of infamy by national leaders, like for instance:
1) Nixon's treasonous negotiations with the Vietnamese prior to his election to the White House.
2) Reagan's treasonous negotiations with Iran prior to his election to the White House.
3) Some current members of Congress who are willing accomplices to Orban's and Putin's schemes.
This is a repost of my response on your earlier article" No false flags, no need for Ukraine this is all the doing of ISIS-K and Putin will take advantage of it, with the help of our American turncoats like MTG and Trump
There was an attack in Moscow, and it hasn't gotten any real play in the corporate media,not even "liberal" MSNBC. just a passing mention as a fire, that killed 20 people.
However, there was a brief report that ISIS-K claimed responsibility for Putin's meddling in the Mid East.
The K stand for Khorosan, it is the name for Iran, at the time of the Arab conquest.
And ISIS-K is committing acts in Iran.
ISIS is Sunni, Iran is Shia. Westerners have no inkling of the 1400 year long conflict between Sunni (from Sunnah meaning the Followers - of Muhammad ans Shia meaning followers of Ali - Muhammads cousin and first student or Ali bin Abi Talib, which translates as Exalted father of the son of the Student or cousin.
HAMAS is Sunni, however it is being supported, logistically with weapons, and tactically with training and planning by Shia Iran. Hezbollah and the Alawite Assad family which rules Syria are Shia. The Kingdom and Jordan are Sunni.The Saudi family rules the peninsula because of an alliance that a tribal chief name of Saud made with a religious fanatic named Wahab,centuries ago, thus the Kingdom is ruled by a King whose reign is enfranchised by a cult of clerics called Wahabbiyah.
The Mullahcracy of Iran (Shia) sent a squad of infiltrators into Mecca during the annual haj (pilgrimage to Mecca) om 1987, to capture Mecca, it failed and it was a bloodbath, exasperating the tensions between Sunni and Shia Islam.
Shia Muslims do live in the Kingdom but are serviced and maintained by Shia and foreign workers.
Foreign kufr (non Muslim) workers live in walled compounds that have been desacrilized by the Mufti of Mecca.
Shia Muslims are to Saudi Arabia as migrant workers are to the American agricultural sector.
The ISIA-K attack on Moscow is evidence of Putin's involvement, via Iran, with HAMAS, and I say again
Oct 7th was not a coincidence in being the birthday of Putin and HAMAS attackvon Israel, the worlds attention was shifted from Ukraine to Israel, and painfully much of the anti Trump left has been sucked into the scheme..
What a success. Evidently ISIS-K is more perceptive than self absorbed, self righteous Americans, who have found another bright shiny object (Israel) to obsess on.
It isn't just the theocratic, Christian nationalist right that are morons. there are plenty in middle and liberal America.
And even our "liberal"media is sucked into the scheme, because that is where the clicks, thus profits are.
I hope our military is on high alert. I think this is the most likely scenario, we will know next week. We cannot allow Putin to just pulverize Ukraine. May be time to get more intimately involved.
This does smell like another false flag operation by the more unevolved lying right wingers who hate democracy.
If only gARLAND would have prosecuted the Russian sympathizers in Congress 3 years ago!
If Russia gets even more aggressive towards Ukraine, even with nuclear weapons, it will cause much chaos and turmoil in America and the right wing anarchist's thrive on that. Lies, fear and hatred is how they try to overthrow nations.
I can't help but suspect Russia, China, gOPS, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Netanyahu, Iran and many more right-wing capitalist nations, will try to send all of their undesirables off to war without weapons. Possibly in an attempt to avert global warming, but more likely to end social programs so the rich will have even more money, or it could be both or more?
Thank you for your reply, William. I am well familiar with who HAMAS is and what they have done. I am a very proud Jewish woman, lived in Israel for a year and have a large family spread throughout the country. You may have seen them in the weekly protests to save their Supreme Court and get rid of Netanyahuy on most TV channel for months. They are still protesting but for NEW elections! They are well aware that most, if not all, the hostages have probably passed by now; and if there are any alive they may never recover emotionally, mentally, physically from the horrors they have seen and lived through. Netanyahu told the Palestinians to go south...so they went south. Then he told them to leave the south...they went to Rafah. Now, where are they supposed to go? No Arab country will allow them in. The fascists in Congress have made it clear that as far as they are concerned immigrants are not welcome in America. So, does starvation then become the answer? NO!!!
Of course Biden has no control over Hamas or any other country for that matter. Netanyahu is no different from American's would be dictator - both will do whatever they can to stay out of prison, even if it means destroying their country's democrarcy.
"Defying Biden, Netanyahu renews pledge to launch Rafah offensive
"I hope I’m wrong. Praying, frankly, that I’m wrong.Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and Anthony Blinken must have a hellacious job today…”.
I, too, hope you are wrong Thom but, sadly, I fear your words may be proven true. My heart is heavy for the loss of innocent lives, especially the children who never had a chance to live, just to stroke the egos of maniacal leaders and keep criminals, i.e. Netanyahu and the 🟠💩 out of jail. We are living in perilous times with little recourse but to sit and watch what unfolds on the world stage.
How long do we need to understand that lies are the path of the deluded and all the excuse dictators or want to be dictators desire. The Bible is clear that fear and lies are the opponents we need to care most about. Does that inform those that watch Fox News or the churches that hate those that do not hold to their doctrine? Our enemies are fear and lies. Time to declare that we must make such things extinct and that those that contaminate us with them are to be shamed and raise the young to loathe fear and lies.
An interesting cover article in last month's "Harper's" says that the Israelis refused to believe Hamas could attack them because they disparaged the group and believed that their computerized military systems would give them ample warning. In other words, they ignored human intelligence on the ground because it did not fit what they wanted to believe.
In any case, the creation of ISIS was a direct result of the invasion of Iraq, something news commentators rarely if ever mention. Bush and Cheney took a bad situation and with their lies made it infinitely worse. But as mentioned elsewhere in this section, people in this part of the world never forget their past...to which I'd add that the U.S. never seems to learn it. Many years ago in Afghanistan (I took the Hippie Trail overland from France to Nepal) a local proudly showed me the road where "they" beat Alexander the Great. Compare that with what the average American knows about their history. Thus the situation across the whole region will likely remain extremely dangerous. Fortunately Biden, like JFK during the Missile Crisis, is probably smart and educated enough not to let things spiral into a repeat of 1914 or 1939. Trump and his cronies would of course either bumble it or give away the store.
Fast to warn us; slow to look for what to do. All readers do is corroborate how awful things are. Why not put their good minds into creative conversations?
It's what's happening with my essay contest. I've got a world of turned on people reporting fantasies for How We Saved the World. Here's one brilliant submission: https://suzannetaylor.substack.com/p/another-winner
Writing the essays got people so turned on to thinking about what to do that I'm looking at getting essays written everywhere, so we are all buzzing and creative!
Reuters article from this morning: Explainer: What is ISIS-K, the group that attacked a Moscow concert hall?
"While the attack by ISIS-K in Russia on Friday was a dramatic escalation, experts said the group has opposed Russian President Vladimir Putin in recent years.
"ISIS-K has been fixated on Russia for the past two years, frequently criticizing Putin in its propaganda," said Colin Clarke of Soufan Center, a New York-based research group.
Michael Kugelman of the Washington-based Wilson Center said ISIS-K "sees Russia as being complicit in activities that regularly oppress Muslims."
The above is a very helpful piece. Add to the last bit that Putin oppresses EVERYONE and so do these RADICAL Muslims. There is no logic---just a psychopath thoroughly trained in espionage (including disinformation) and a group of disgusting misogynistic terrorists hellbent on making the world notice them. We may be on their to-do list, but they already got us at the airport evacuation in Afghanistan. We have killed many of them, but I'm sure they are growing a new crop as I write.
Meanwhile back at the brink of WWIII, it's a small comfort to know that we have adult, sane people in this Administration that will want us to know the TRUTH and will do their best to tell us the TRUTH. It is not that easy to hide the truth these days; it is not even easy for Putin. Dead bodies in Moscow, dead bodies coming home from Ukraine, young men fleeing their conscription, all roads lead to Putin. I wish he had been at the concert, but terrorists rather kill the innocent. Russians that love him rather reelect him. My heart is with the Russians that have the guts to oppose this monster.
I don't enjoy it when Thom Hartmann reinforces my darker speculations - because Thom is quite often correct in his speculation.
My heart is with all hearts in this world. Now and forever.
I've been saying this for some time; anyone who identifies as a Republican is, and will be, complicit in the instigation of WWIII.
The old autocrats and wannabe autocrats are nearing the end of their lives. They don't care about anyone but themselves. Certainly not their countries or their countrymen. Sadly, it seems to me that the question is not whether the Goeterdaemmerung is coming, but when. Because like Nero, they all, including the faux orange god of our American cultists, cannot imagine a world without them in it, and will happily bring an end to that world along with their own lives.
Mr. Hartman. It is a time honored strategic tactic for national leaders to sit on their hands while they have knowledge that some foe is about to attack an element of the national apparatus; then allow this attack as a mechanism to enrage the domestic population to the point where they are willing to engage in war. A more complete list in the last century should include at least:
1) Hitler and the Reichstag building.
2) Roosevelt and Pearl Harbor.
3) Kennedy and Diem.
4) Johnson and the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
5) Baby Bush and 911.
6) Netanyahu and the Hamas attack.
7) Now possibly Putin and the theater building.
This list ignores other different, but similar acts of infamy by national leaders, like for instance:
1) Nixon's treasonous negotiations with the Vietnamese prior to his election to the White House.
2) Reagan's treasonous negotiations with Iran prior to his election to the White House.
3) Some current members of Congress who are willing accomplices to Orban's and Putin's schemes.
Some More??????????? Are these lists too short?
This is a repost of my response on your earlier article" No false flags, no need for Ukraine this is all the doing of ISIS-K and Putin will take advantage of it, with the help of our American turncoats like MTG and Trump
There was an attack in Moscow, and it hasn't gotten any real play in the corporate media,not even "liberal" MSNBC. just a passing mention as a fire, that killed 20 people.
However, there was a brief report that ISIS-K claimed responsibility for Putin's meddling in the Mid East.
The K stand for Khorosan, it is the name for Iran, at the time of the Arab conquest.
And ISIS-K is committing acts in Iran.
ISIS is Sunni, Iran is Shia. Westerners have no inkling of the 1400 year long conflict between Sunni (from Sunnah meaning the Followers - of Muhammad ans Shia meaning followers of Ali - Muhammads cousin and first student or Ali bin Abi Talib, which translates as Exalted father of the son of the Student or cousin.
HAMAS is Sunni, however it is being supported, logistically with weapons, and tactically with training and planning by Shia Iran. Hezbollah and the Alawite Assad family which rules Syria are Shia. The Kingdom and Jordan are Sunni.The Saudi family rules the peninsula because of an alliance that a tribal chief name of Saud made with a religious fanatic named Wahab,centuries ago, thus the Kingdom is ruled by a King whose reign is enfranchised by a cult of clerics called Wahabbiyah.
The Mullahcracy of Iran (Shia) sent a squad of infiltrators into Mecca during the annual haj (pilgrimage to Mecca) om 1987, to capture Mecca, it failed and it was a bloodbath, exasperating the tensions between Sunni and Shia Islam.
Shia Muslims do live in the Kingdom but are serviced and maintained by Shia and foreign workers.
Foreign kufr (non Muslim) workers live in walled compounds that have been desacrilized by the Mufti of Mecca.
Shia Muslims are to Saudi Arabia as migrant workers are to the American agricultural sector.
The ISIA-K attack on Moscow is evidence of Putin's involvement, via Iran, with HAMAS, and I say again
Oct 7th was not a coincidence in being the birthday of Putin and HAMAS attackvon Israel, the worlds attention was shifted from Ukraine to Israel, and painfully much of the anti Trump left has been sucked into the scheme..
What a success. Evidently ISIS-K is more perceptive than self absorbed, self righteous Americans, who have found another bright shiny object (Israel) to obsess on.
It isn't just the theocratic, Christian nationalist right that are morons. there are plenty in middle and liberal America.
And even our "liberal"media is sucked into the scheme, because that is where the clicks, thus profits are.
I hope our military is on high alert. I think this is the most likely scenario, we will know next week. We cannot allow Putin to just pulverize Ukraine. May be time to get more intimately involved.
I sure hope you’re not “onto something here.” But fear you may be.
This does smell like another false flag operation by the more unevolved lying right wingers who hate democracy.
If only gARLAND would have prosecuted the Russian sympathizers in Congress 3 years ago!
If Russia gets even more aggressive towards Ukraine, even with nuclear weapons, it will cause much chaos and turmoil in America and the right wing anarchist's thrive on that. Lies, fear and hatred is how they try to overthrow nations.
I can't help but suspect Russia, China, gOPS, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Netanyahu, Iran and many more right-wing capitalist nations, will try to send all of their undesirables off to war without weapons. Possibly in an attempt to avert global warming, but more likely to end social programs so the rich will have even more money, or it could be both or more?
Thank you for your reply, William. I am well familiar with who HAMAS is and what they have done. I am a very proud Jewish woman, lived in Israel for a year and have a large family spread throughout the country. You may have seen them in the weekly protests to save their Supreme Court and get rid of Netanyahuy on most TV channel for months. They are still protesting but for NEW elections! They are well aware that most, if not all, the hostages have probably passed by now; and if there are any alive they may never recover emotionally, mentally, physically from the horrors they have seen and lived through. Netanyahu told the Palestinians to go south...so they went south. Then he told them to leave the south...they went to Rafah. Now, where are they supposed to go? No Arab country will allow them in. The fascists in Congress have made it clear that as far as they are concerned immigrants are not welcome in America. So, does starvation then become the answer? NO!!!
Of course Biden has no control over Hamas or any other country for that matter. Netanyahu is no different from American's would be dictator - both will do whatever they can to stay out of prison, even if it means destroying their country's democrarcy.
"Defying Biden, Netanyahu renews pledge to launch Rafah offensive
The prime minister’s comments came a day after Biden warned him against carrying out an operation in a city sheltering more than a million displaced Palestinians". https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-rafah-invasion-netanyahu-biden-phone-call-rcna144057
So Thom is right to be worried...Putin has his puppets in place and the world is watching to see what strings he pulls next.
"I hope I’m wrong. Praying, frankly, that I’m wrong.Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and Anthony Blinken must have a hellacious job today…”.
I, too, hope you are wrong Thom but, sadly, I fear your words may be proven true. My heart is heavy for the loss of innocent lives, especially the children who never had a chance to live, just to stroke the egos of maniacal leaders and keep criminals, i.e. Netanyahu and the 🟠💩 out of jail. We are living in perilous times with little recourse but to sit and watch what unfolds on the world stage.
There is nothing too horrible to be true.
How long do we need to understand that lies are the path of the deluded and all the excuse dictators or want to be dictators desire. The Bible is clear that fear and lies are the opponents we need to care most about. Does that inform those that watch Fox News or the churches that hate those that do not hold to their doctrine? Our enemies are fear and lies. Time to declare that we must make such things extinct and that those that contaminate us with them are to be shamed and raise the young to loathe fear and lies.
An interesting cover article in last month's "Harper's" says that the Israelis refused to believe Hamas could attack them because they disparaged the group and believed that their computerized military systems would give them ample warning. In other words, they ignored human intelligence on the ground because it did not fit what they wanted to believe.
In any case, the creation of ISIS was a direct result of the invasion of Iraq, something news commentators rarely if ever mention. Bush and Cheney took a bad situation and with their lies made it infinitely worse. But as mentioned elsewhere in this section, people in this part of the world never forget their past...to which I'd add that the U.S. never seems to learn it. Many years ago in Afghanistan (I took the Hippie Trail overland from France to Nepal) a local proudly showed me the road where "they" beat Alexander the Great. Compare that with what the average American knows about their history. Thus the situation across the whole region will likely remain extremely dangerous. Fortunately Biden, like JFK during the Missile Crisis, is probably smart and educated enough not to let things spiral into a repeat of 1914 or 1939. Trump and his cronies would of course either bumble it or give away the store.
Interesting timing since “Congress” just scattered for a two week vacay.
Fast to warn us; slow to look for what to do. All readers do is corroborate how awful things are. Why not put their good minds into creative conversations?
It's what's happening with my essay contest. I've got a world of turned on people reporting fantasies for How We Saved the World. Here's one brilliant submission: https://suzannetaylor.substack.com/p/another-winner
Writing the essays got people so turned on to thinking about what to do that I'm looking at getting essays written everywhere, so we are all buzzing and creative!
Reuters article from this morning: Explainer: What is ISIS-K, the group that attacked a Moscow concert hall?
"While the attack by ISIS-K in Russia on Friday was a dramatic escalation, experts said the group has opposed Russian President Vladimir Putin in recent years.
"ISIS-K has been fixated on Russia for the past two years, frequently criticizing Putin in its propaganda," said Colin Clarke of Soufan Center, a New York-based research group.
Michael Kugelman of the Washington-based Wilson Center said ISIS-K "sees Russia as being complicit in activities that regularly oppress Muslims."
The above is a very helpful piece. Add to the last bit that Putin oppresses EVERYONE and so do these RADICAL Muslims. There is no logic---just a psychopath thoroughly trained in espionage (including disinformation) and a group of disgusting misogynistic terrorists hellbent on making the world notice them. We may be on their to-do list, but they already got us at the airport evacuation in Afghanistan. We have killed many of them, but I'm sure they are growing a new crop as I write.
Meanwhile back at the brink of WWIII, it's a small comfort to know that we have adult, sane people in this Administration that will want us to know the TRUTH and will do their best to tell us the TRUTH. It is not that easy to hide the truth these days; it is not even easy for Putin. Dead bodies in Moscow, dead bodies coming home from Ukraine, young men fleeing their conscription, all roads lead to Putin. I wish he had been at the concert, but terrorists rather kill the innocent. Russians that love him rather reelect him. My heart is with the Russians that have the guts to oppose this monster.