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Robert B. Elliott's avatar

It seems that preaching to the choir is creating an echo but not getting the message to many others. We are stewing in our own juices. Who are the "We" which will impact the outside world? Have "we" allowed the movers and shakers and power brokers to snow and anesthetize the masses and given them license to broadcast their propaganda freely far and wide while "we" are immobilized and silenced? How much noise can one person make while being muffled and muzzled? When we let one significant untruth go unnoticed, others spring up and take over like weeds in the field. Hope that there is some limit to the tolerance of the people and that reality will transcend the self-destructiveness of the fascists and fanatics..

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Bruce Culver's avatar

While this is aggravating, the COP in Dubai will not have that much effect on global warming. The sad fact is that there are demographic and economic factors that will make timely action quite unlikely. First, the earth can support only about 2 billion people at most, SUSTAINABLY (with 100% recycling) - so there are 6 billion of us above that level, which guarantees continued degradation of the planet. Second, there are 1 billion existing cars and trucks that burn fossil fuels, and there is not enough money or materials to replace them with electric vehicles - this is a problem that should have been dealt with a generation ago, but wasn't. Third, there are significant problems with replacement technologies - apparently the companies working on modular nuclear power plants to replace decommissioned coal and gas fired generating plants have stopped their work because funding is limited and the numbers don't work for them anymore. We need Manhattan Project levels of government research into basic energy materials, and even more important, major basic research in scaling up the experimental processes for mitigating and sequestering CO2 and methane as they appear, as we did for sulfur dioxide in emissions from power plants. And we have to hope that James Hansen is wrong in his latest paper..... Reality may be a bitch, but we do have to deal with it.

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