People need to calm down and stop with the "Biden needs to go" rhetoric. The man had a cold ad was hoarse. Exactly .0000001% of voters changed their mind last night over the debate. Biden voters will still vote for him; Trump voters will still vote for Trump. All Trump did was lie for the entire debate while Biden spoke intelligently, though quietly, on the real issues that matter.
People need to calm down and stop with the "Biden needs to go" rhetoric. The man had a cold ad was hoarse. Exactly .0000001% of voters changed their mind last night over the debate. Biden voters will still vote for him; Trump voters will still vote for Trump. All Trump did was lie for the entire debate while Biden spoke intelligently, though quietly, on the real issues that matter.
Suzie I like you, I agree with you, but I don't buy excuses, They don't work, especially that cold and hoarse throat excuse, for one thing it doesn't explain him being choked up and not finishing a sentence of making sense, Trump even caught it once.
Mind are not changed by the debate, we know what is at stake, Gen Z is on their cell phones not paying attention. As said on the View it was a pissing match between octogenarians. the mods didn't do their job and/or favored Trump. Trump had too much time to talk, but Biden was held to the time limit. So much wrong, but none of it matters.
What conceerns me is that three states that were swing states last time, GA, NC, VA are no longer swing states because of Republican state legislatures passing voter suppression laws.
It rakes 270 electoral votes to win
Republicans have 235 votes sewn up
Democrats 226 votes
There are five swing states, AZ, NV, MI,Pa, WI, AZ has 10 electoral Votes, NV 6, they only come into play at the last minute.
Michigan 15, Pennyslvania 19, Wisconsin 11.
Those three states carried Biden by 10,000 each in 2020, There are 100,000 Muslims in each, an as many blacks. The Muslims have threatened to sit out the election, blacks the same or vote for Cornell West, that means Trump wins the electoral votes, if only in Michigan, Pennsylvania have 34, 235 and 34 makes 269, Biden must win 270, he starts with 226 meaning he needs 44 votes. If Trump wins Michigan and Pennsylvania the election will wind up in Congress and in Congress each state gets one vote, and there are more red states than blue states, so Trump wins.
Those are the mechanics, again the popular vote only counts state by state, as the popular vote determines who wins the states electoral votes.
If Trump wins it is because the Muslims and blacks sat on their hands or voted third party and I hope that they enjoy the concentration (holding) camps as he rounds up immigrants and even 1st generation Americans as he has threatened to do, and Trump doesn't threaten he promises.
Last time he didn't have the power to follow through on his promises, Project 2025 and Agenda 47 have rectified that deficiency.
It should not be this close; I know. Sadly there is no excuse for the Democrats letting their leadership get away. It's less the debate debacle, and more their insistence on "taking the high road." Nobody's on that road but them. There was sufficient ammo for Biden to have wiped the floor with Trump, but he didn't do it for whatever reason.
The problem is that since SCOTUS has legalized political bribery and doubled down on it. (Gratuities to government officials aren't bribes? I was born in the morning, but not yesterday morning.) Both parties can talk all they want, but they don't control The Money. And without The Money, they can't win office. This is late stage capitalism.
Capitalism always aggregates into fewer and few hands over time. That's how it works. Once this process comes to full fruition, regulation is nearly impossible; the rich just buy politicians. What we are seeing now is the final spasm of freedom and outright looting of the population. Sadly, only pitchforks are going to change things.
I agree Suzie with everything. Michelle Obama has damaged the party with her refrain of When they go low we go high, that is the refrain of a loser.
There is a Scottish song that goes Ye take the high road and I'll take the load road and I'll be in Scotland afore ye"
I know we are screwed by billionaires and corporations. we have been since I've been alive, but now the billionaires and corporations have thrown in their lot with authoritarians and theocrats because they think that their money will save them, and that their money will enable them to control the authoritarians. They know nothing of history.
They let their leadership get away because they donтАЩt care enough. Nothing is really going to change much for the SchumerтАЩs and PelosiтАЩs of the Democratic Party if Trump gets elected.they go home to their gated communities and continue ur to live in their bubble. Arrogant.
Not sure I agree 100% but there IS a certain amount of status quo thinking going on. And arrogance. But mostly a sad delusion that if they are nice enough, Republicans will come around to cooperation and care for the country. Bullies don't stop bullying until you hit them hard on the shins with a wooden dowel. I can tell you this from experience. I'm speaking metaphorically in the case of Democratic politicians, but accurately in my own case. I have grown weary of the Democratic motto of: "We can't. The Republicans won't let us. They'll be mad at us."
I also like you SuZie, BUT miraculously today Biden was back to normal? Did he act old yesterday? Did he throw the debate? Will he throw the next debate? After appointing Garland, I cannot trust him!
Also, Garland has been Biden's worst mistake. We are in the situation we are in because of him and his refusal to act in a timely manner. Garland appointed Jack Smith almost TWO years into his tenure, and then appears to have given Smith little to no support. It's been four years and zip has been done about the attempted coup. If we lose our democracy, it is squarely on Garland's head. He couldn't have done worse if he had attended the Trump rallies and cheered. Biden, for his part, should have fired him six months in. I personally believe Garland is a closet MAGA Republican. Nothing else accounts for his behavior.
Biden's biggest blind spot is that he came up in politics in a time where there was a compromise, collegiality, and cooperation. He still thinks if he's nice enough he can get the Republicans to be reasonable. Obama, who should have known better, followed the same path. Republicans are not reasonable. As Biden put it Trump has the morals of an alley cat and they LIKE that because they are in that alley with him. They are sharks who smell blood in the water. Taking the high road has been foolish in this environment.
I doubt Biden threw the debate. Trump was given carte blanc by CNN to spend the entire time lying with no calling him out on it. Biden spoke the truth. Trump strutted before his audience.
People need to calm down and stop with the "Biden needs to go" rhetoric. The man had a cold ad was hoarse. Exactly .0000001% of voters changed their mind last night over the debate. Biden voters will still vote for him; Trump voters will still vote for Trump. All Trump did was lie for the entire debate while Biden spoke intelligently, though quietly, on the real issues that matter.
Suzie I like you, I agree with you, but I don't buy excuses, They don't work, especially that cold and hoarse throat excuse, for one thing it doesn't explain him being choked up and not finishing a sentence of making sense, Trump even caught it once.
Mind are not changed by the debate, we know what is at stake, Gen Z is on their cell phones not paying attention. As said on the View it was a pissing match between octogenarians. the mods didn't do their job and/or favored Trump. Trump had too much time to talk, but Biden was held to the time limit. So much wrong, but none of it matters.
What conceerns me is that three states that were swing states last time, GA, NC, VA are no longer swing states because of Republican state legislatures passing voter suppression laws.
It rakes 270 electoral votes to win
Republicans have 235 votes sewn up
Democrats 226 votes
There are five swing states, AZ, NV, MI,Pa, WI, AZ has 10 electoral Votes, NV 6, they only come into play at the last minute.
Michigan 15, Pennyslvania 19, Wisconsin 11.
Those three states carried Biden by 10,000 each in 2020, There are 100,000 Muslims in each, an as many blacks. The Muslims have threatened to sit out the election, blacks the same or vote for Cornell West, that means Trump wins the electoral votes, if only in Michigan, Pennsylvania have 34, 235 and 34 makes 269, Biden must win 270, he starts with 226 meaning he needs 44 votes. If Trump wins Michigan and Pennsylvania the election will wind up in Congress and in Congress each state gets one vote, and there are more red states than blue states, so Trump wins.
Those are the mechanics, again the popular vote only counts state by state, as the popular vote determines who wins the states electoral votes.
If Trump wins it is because the Muslims and blacks sat on their hands or voted third party and I hope that they enjoy the concentration (holding) camps as he rounds up immigrants and even 1st generation Americans as he has threatened to do, and Trump doesn't threaten he promises.
Last time he didn't have the power to follow through on his promises, Project 2025 and Agenda 47 have rectified that deficiency.
It should not be this close; I know. Sadly there is no excuse for the Democrats letting their leadership get away. It's less the debate debacle, and more their insistence on "taking the high road." Nobody's on that road but them. There was sufficient ammo for Biden to have wiped the floor with Trump, but he didn't do it for whatever reason.
The problem is that since SCOTUS has legalized political bribery and doubled down on it. (Gratuities to government officials aren't bribes? I was born in the morning, but not yesterday morning.) Both parties can talk all they want, but they don't control The Money. And without The Money, they can't win office. This is late stage capitalism.
Capitalism always aggregates into fewer and few hands over time. That's how it works. Once this process comes to full fruition, regulation is nearly impossible; the rich just buy politicians. What we are seeing now is the final spasm of freedom and outright looting of the population. Sadly, only pitchforks are going to change things.
I agree Suzie with everything. Michelle Obama has damaged the party with her refrain of When they go low we go high, that is the refrain of a loser.
There is a Scottish song that goes Ye take the high road and I'll take the load road and I'll be in Scotland afore ye"
I know we are screwed by billionaires and corporations. we have been since I've been alive, but now the billionaires and corporations have thrown in their lot with authoritarians and theocrats because they think that their money will save them, and that their money will enable them to control the authoritarians. They know nothing of history.
They let their leadership get away because they donтАЩt care enough. Nothing is really going to change much for the SchumerтАЩs and PelosiтАЩs of the Democratic Party if Trump gets elected.they go home to their gated communities and continue ur to live in their bubble. Arrogant.
Not sure I agree 100% but there IS a certain amount of status quo thinking going on. And arrogance. But mostly a sad delusion that if they are nice enough, Republicans will come around to cooperation and care for the country. Bullies don't stop bullying until you hit them hard on the shins with a wooden dowel. I can tell you this from experience. I'm speaking metaphorically in the case of Democratic politicians, but accurately in my own case. I have grown weary of the Democratic motto of: "We can't. The Republicans won't let us. They'll be mad at us."
Exactly.
I also like you SuZie, BUT miraculously today Biden was back to normal? Did he act old yesterday? Did he throw the debate? Will he throw the next debate? After appointing Garland, I cannot trust him!
Also, Garland has been Biden's worst mistake. We are in the situation we are in because of him and his refusal to act in a timely manner. Garland appointed Jack Smith almost TWO years into his tenure, and then appears to have given Smith little to no support. It's been four years and zip has been done about the attempted coup. If we lose our democracy, it is squarely on Garland's head. He couldn't have done worse if he had attended the Trump rallies and cheered. Biden, for his part, should have fired him six months in. I personally believe Garland is a closet MAGA Republican. Nothing else accounts for his behavior.
Biden's biggest blind spot is that he came up in politics in a time where there was a compromise, collegiality, and cooperation. He still thinks if he's nice enough he can get the Republicans to be reasonable. Obama, who should have known better, followed the same path. Republicans are not reasonable. As Biden put it Trump has the morals of an alley cat and they LIKE that because they are in that alley with him. They are sharks who smell blood in the water. Taking the high road has been foolish in this environment.
I doubt Biden threw the debate. Trump was given carte blanc by CNN to spend the entire time lying with no calling him out on it. Biden spoke the truth. Trump strutted before his audience.